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England
Jul 14, 2024 21:28:17 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jul 14, 2024 21:28:17 GMT
We will never win anything with an English manager it really is as simple as that. We are not winners I don’t feel quite as bad because we were bloody lucky to be in the final anyway, but we still threw this away after equalising Don’t think we threw it away, think Spain took it away from us by scoring a good goal
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England
Jul 14, 2024 21:28:56 GMT
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Post by andystokey on Jul 14, 2024 21:28:56 GMT
Feel better than last time we messed that one up and Spain are much better than Italy were England were poor earlier in the tournament but last games we played as well we could I think Spain showed they are better today, simple as that Time for Gareth to say he's done his bit and time for him to get the praise he deserves No idea who the next England manager will be tbh Pretty much the entire squad will be about in 2 years plus some otgers Strikers are all getting on a bit, need to find a young striker to add to the options but don't see one coming through atm I'd ring Klopp just to be sure but if I had to choose now it would be Poch. I don't see an Englishman that is expansive enough.
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Post by stoke1989 on Jul 14, 2024 21:29:24 GMT
Get that fraud gone in the morning.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 14, 2024 21:29:34 GMT
You have to sit back and look at the bigger picture as tough as it is. 2 finals, a semi and a quarter finals in the last 4 tournaments suggests it will happen at some point. Shake hands with Southgate, thank him for his excellent service and try and appoint a more dynamic manager that can get more out of this group offensively............ Agree Postecoglu? Pocchetino? Would either take the job? Is Potter a good option? Carsley? Will Howe take a pay cut? Would we want him? Allardyce should have another crack after being sacked with a 100% record
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Post by questionable on Jul 14, 2024 21:30:08 GMT
Let's not pretend we've been good in this tournament. We've been absolutely fucking dire with one of the best teams we've had in decades. We were 20 seconds away from one of England's worst ever results in a tournament vs Slovakia at which point Southgate would have had many more things thrown at him and forced into immediate resignation. People can defend Southgate if they want and pretend he's done a really good job but they are only kidding themselves. Terrible performances throughout the tournament and as usual, it's a classic case of "lose against the first top side we come up against". Hopefully Southgate resigns before boarding the flight home. Fair play to Spain, they look destined for years of success. We never went into any game with a bit of swagger or got momentum going from the last games and limped throughout games, we had good players coming on who in return were dropped the very next game and the crap players returning. Southgate needs to go
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Post by xchpotter on Jul 14, 2024 21:30:23 GMT
Well in Southgate’s interview then he gave all the evidence the FA could want to not give him another contract. He was bemused and hadn’t a clue how to counter what Spain were doing.
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Post by superjw on Jul 14, 2024 21:30:53 GMT
We will never win anything with an English manager it really is as simple as that. We are not winners I don’t feel quite as bad because we were bloody lucky to be in the final anyway, but we still threw this away after equalising Don’t think we threw it away, think Spain took it away from us by scoring a good goal The game was there for the taking and we sat back and allowed Spain in, the ending was inevitable. That’s throwing a final away. Had we have actually taken the momentum things may have been different, or maybe not. But we didn’t try to win this when it mattered the most
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 14, 2024 21:31:17 GMT
You have to sit back and look at the bigger picture as tough as it is. 2 finals, a semi and a quarter finals in the last 4 tournaments suggests it will happen at some point. Shake hands with Southgate, thank him for his excellent service and try and appoint a more dynamic manager that can get more out of this group offensively............ Agree Postecoglu? Pocchetino? Would either take the job? Is Potter a good option? Carsley? Will Howe take a pay cut? Would we want him? Howe gets it if Sir Gareth goes , his days at Newcastle are numbered now given Amanda has left , Mrs Howe can live back in Dorset and JT will look great in a England tracksuit urging Bellingham to dive and roll at every opportunity
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England
Jul 14, 2024 21:31:20 GMT
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 14, 2024 21:31:20 GMT
You have to sit back and look at the bigger picture as tough as it is. 2 finals, a semi and a quarter finals in the last 4 tournaments suggests it will happen at some point. Shake hands with Southgate, thank him for his excellent service and try and appoint a more dynamic manager that can get more out of this group offensively............ Agree Postecoglu? Pocchetino? Would either take the job? Is Potter a good option? Carsley? Will Howe take a pay cut? Would we want him? Not a foreign manager. I know it's the Premier League way to pay big money for foreigners over developing English players, but what's the point in international football if you just pay a foreigner to come and win for you?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 14, 2024 21:31:34 GMT
You have to sit back and look at the bigger picture as tough as it is. 2 finals, a semi and a quarter finals in the last 4 tournaments suggests it will happen at some point. Shake hands with Southgate, thank him for his excellent service and try and appoint a more dynamic manager that can get more out of this group offensively............ Agree Postecoglu? Pocchetino? Would either take the job? Is Potter a good option? Carsley? Will Howe take a pay cut? Would we want him? I think Pocchetino would partly because he appears to be so settled in the UK with his family......
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Post by lordb on Jul 14, 2024 21:31:53 GMT
Don’t think we threw it away, think Spain took it away from us by scoring a good goal The game was there for the taking and we sat back and allowed Spain in, the ending was inevitable. That’s throwing a final away. Had we have actually taken the momentum things may have been different, or maybe not. But we didn’t try to win this when it mattered the most The game was not there for the taking, that's nonsense
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Post by henry on Jul 14, 2024 21:32:05 GMT
Bar 45 mins against Holland we've pretty much stunk the place out. Kane getting 60 mins tonight ? WTF.
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England
Jul 14, 2024 21:32:34 GMT
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jul 14, 2024 21:32:34 GMT
Feel better than last time we messed that one up and Spain are much better than Italy were England were poor earlier in the tournament but last games we played as well we could I think Spain showed they are better today, simple as that Time for Gareth to say he's done his bit and time for him to get the praise he deserves No idea who the next England manager will be tbh Pretty much the entire squad will be about in 2 years plus some otgers Strikers are all getting on a bit, need to find a young striker to add to the options but don't see one coming through atm Bang on as per usual. I've felt much more gutted going out of major tournaments in the past than this before.
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England
Jul 14, 2024 21:32:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2024 21:32:35 GMT
You have to sit back and look at the bigger picture as tough as it is. 2 finals, a semi and a quarter finals in the last 4 tournaments suggests it will happen at some point. Shake hands with Southgate, thank him for his excellent service and try and appoint a more dynamic manager that can get more out of this group offensively............ Agree Postecoglu? Pocchetino? Would either take the job? Is Potter a good option? Carsley? Will Howe take a pay cut? Would we want him? Poch is the Argentinian Southgate. A serial loser that does so much but can't cross the line. If we want to win a tournament then we need a savvy coach that knows how to win regardless of where he comes from. People would hate me for saying this but the job is picture perfect for Mourinho. He wouldn't have enough time to fall out with people and International football right now would be perfect for him.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 14, 2024 21:33:21 GMT
Agree Postecoglu? Pocchetino? Would either take the job? Is Potter a good option? Carsley? Will Howe take a pay cut? Would we want him? I think Pocchetino would partly because he appears to be so settled in the UK with his family...... We won’t appoint an Argentinian to be England manager
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Post by Northy on Jul 14, 2024 21:33:28 GMT
Reports coming out we plan on keeping Southgate for the next World Cup no matter the result on Sunday.... I hope there's as much truth in this as your Stoke signing players info.
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England
Jul 14, 2024 21:33:28 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jul 14, 2024 21:33:28 GMT
Agree Postecoglu? Pocchetino? Would either take the job? Is Potter a good option? Carsley? Will Howe take a pay cut? Would we want him? Howe gets it if Sir Gareth goes , his days at Newcastle are numbered now given Amanda has left , Mrs Howe can live back in Dorset and JT will look great in a England tracksuit urging Bellingham to dive and roll at every opportunity I see Would taking the England job cost him £millions though Struggling to warm to Howe tbh
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England
Jul 14, 2024 21:33:54 GMT
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Post by serpico on Jul 14, 2024 21:33:54 GMT
We had the players to win this, Southgate bottled it by consistently playing players who just weren’t doing it! ie Kane and foden have both been poor, should have been dropped earlier in the tournament, our lack of forward line has been glaring since 30 mins into the Serbia game!
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England
Jul 14, 2024 21:35:52 GMT
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Post by superjw on Jul 14, 2024 21:35:52 GMT
We had the players to win this, Southgate bottled it by consistently playing players who just weren’t doing it! ie Kane and foden have both been poor, should have been dropped earlier in the tournament, our lack of forward line has been glaring since 30 mins into the Serbia game! Kane has been unbelievably poor considering his season. He has been England's version of Ronaldo - hopefully the last outing internationally
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jul 14, 2024 21:35:53 GMT
What's mad Nath doing now. Best manager in Europe by his own admission.
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England
Jul 14, 2024 21:36:04 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jul 14, 2024 21:36:04 GMT
Agree Postecoglu? Pocchetino? Would either take the job? Is Potter a good option? Carsley? Will Howe take a pay cut? Would we want him? Poch is the Argentinian Southgate. A serial loser that does so much but can't cross the line. If we want to win a tournament then we need a savvy coach that knows how to win regardless of where he comes from. People would hate me for saying this but the job is picture perfect for Mourinho. He wouldn't have enough time to fall out with people and International football right now would be perfect for him. Jose could be good in a tournament but can see him getting very bored before them He's hugely divisive If turning our nose up at Poch then who are we going to be happy with?
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Jul 14, 2024 21:36:32 GMT
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Post by Jimmyg on Jul 14, 2024 21:36:32 GMT
Never rated Southgate,done nothing as a manager only got the job as he fits the fa criteria.. plenty of better options but they rarely choose the right one. Kane should not have been starting done nothing all tournament even Bellingham was anonymous for vast majority of games . Southgate just stuck with his favorites from the off and never gave a real chance to the likes of Palmer who should have started every game.
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Post by Northy on Jul 14, 2024 21:37:10 GMT
Let's not pretend we've been good in this tournament. We've been absolutely fucking dire with one of the best teams we've had in decades. We were 20 seconds away from one of England's worst ever results in a tournament vs Slovakia at which point Southgate would have had many more things thrown at him and forced into immediate resignation. People can defend Southgate if they want and pretend he's done a really good job but they are only kidding themselves. Terrible performances throughout the tournament and as usual, it's a classic case of "lose against the first top side we come up against". Hopefully Southgate resigns before boarding the flight home. Fair play to Spain, they look destined for years of success. Southgate should have gone after the last Euros, he bottled that final which was there for the taking, and he's been a bottle job ever since.
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Jul 14, 2024 21:38:48 GMT
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Post by superjw on Jul 14, 2024 21:38:48 GMT
The game was there for the taking and we sat back and allowed Spain in, the ending was inevitable. That’s throwing a final away. Had we have actually taken the momentum things may have been different, or maybe not. But we didn’t try to win this when it mattered the most The game was not there for the taking, that's nonsense At 1-1 it absolutely was We bottled the chance
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England
Jul 14, 2024 21:39:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2024 21:39:22 GMT
Poch is the Argentinian Southgate. A serial loser that does so much but can't cross the line. If we want to win a tournament then we need a savvy coach that knows how to win regardless of where he comes from. People would hate me for saying this but the job is picture perfect for Mourinho. He wouldn't have enough time to fall out with people and International football right now would be perfect for him. Jose could be good in a tournament but can see him getting very bored before them He's hugely divisive If turning our nose up at Poch then who are we going to be happy with? We need winners mate, not more chancers or 'builders'. Poch is another builder. Howe is a chancer. Potter unproven at that level. You're talking Mourinho, Klopp, Ancelotti. Managers and coaches that rub shoulders at this level on a regular basis and feel at home there, not 'Eddie' from Bournemouth who thinks he's on a lads day out if he lands lucky and ends up in a final.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Jul 14, 2024 21:40:46 GMT
We had the players to win this, Southgate bottled it by consistently playing players who just weren’t doing it! ie Kane and foden have both been poor, should have been dropped earlier in the tournament, our lack of forward line has been glaring since 30 mins into the Serbia game! Spot on - he should have been bold with the selection today having seen the scraping through previous rounds after late subs - but he was always gonna revert to type and try and play it safe……..
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Jul 14, 2024 21:41:00 GMT
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Post by stoke1989 on Jul 14, 2024 21:41:00 GMT
Highest paid manager in international football with arguably the world's best squad at his disposal. Get him gone
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Post by adri2008 on Jul 14, 2024 21:41:38 GMT
Jose could be good in a tournament but can see him getting very bored before them He's hugely divisive If turning our nose up at Poch then who are we going to be happy with? We need winners mate, not more chancers or 'builders'. Poch is another builder. Howe is a chancer. Potter unproven at that level. You're talking Mourinho, Klopp, Ancelotti. Mourinho is a very dour manager these days. Klopp if he could persuaded would obviously be a very exciting choice - an excellent manager and passionate too
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England
Jul 14, 2024 21:42:11 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jul 14, 2024 21:42:11 GMT
Jose could be good in a tournament but can see him getting very bored before them He's hugely divisive If turning our nose up at Poch then who are we going to be happy with? We need winners mate, not more chancers or 'builders'. Poch is another builder. Howe is a chancer. Potter unproven at that level. You're talking Mourinho, Klopp, Ancelotti. I think Jose would take the job, the other two surely wouldn't, or at least not at this time Not realistic at all, no harm in as2I suppose Jose would do everyone's head in surely?
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Post by salopstick on Jul 14, 2024 21:42:15 GMT
Kane retiring from international football will do this team a world of good
Great player individual doesn’t fit this team
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