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England
Jul 14, 2024 21:14:23 GMT
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 14, 2024 21:14:23 GMT
Oh well, £500 better off. Always makes sense betting against England. This is the bonus of not giving a shit about international football. Makes betting easy as you're not swayed by England. The hard part is resisting saying "i was right" to all your friends and family who thought England will win it every tournament 😅
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Post by redstriper on Jul 14, 2024 21:14:59 GMT
Not too many complaints about southgate in this game, it suited his cautious attitude with them being a team he had to nullify. But he should have gone after the previous euros.
Spanish manager is quality, rested his first team on game 3 and changed matches with his replacements, Southgate didnt. They had one game less in their legs plus an extra day of rest. Southgate handed them the advantage in week 1.
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Post by stokefc on Jul 14, 2024 21:15:45 GMT
Yuurp thats the end of that chapter
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Post by liathroid on Jul 14, 2024 21:15:54 GMT
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Post by adri2008 on Jul 14, 2024 21:16:38 GMT
England played well but got undone by a better team at the end of the day. Spain had another 3-4 good chances and could have put the game to bed We didn't play well all tournament. How we got to the final in the first place will remain a mystery to me. Carrying Kane I think was the major problem but easier said than done to discard your captain and top performer for the past decade. Either way, I have personally highly enjoyed the past 6 years of Southgate's period in charge of England. Never a tactical genius but excellent at creating teams willing to put everything on the line. I hope he leaves on this high and a new manager can build on what is largely an excellent squad of players
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 14, 2024 21:17:05 GMT
Best team won but the lads didn’t let themselves down. Thought Bellingham should have been subbed straight after the goal, he was out on his feet. Can’t complain, better side won on the night. What really fucks me off is every time we get near to an extra bank holiday it doesn’t materialise🙄
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England
Jul 14, 2024 21:17:11 GMT
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Post by questionable on Jul 14, 2024 21:17:11 GMT
England played well but got undone by a better team at the end of the day. Spain had another 3-4 good chances and could have put the game to bed We didn't play well all tournament. How we got to the final in the first place will remain a mystery to me. This 100%, we’ve had the rub of the green for sure and how we made the final in the first place is a miracle.
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England
Jul 14, 2024 21:17:45 GMT
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Post by milky on Jul 14, 2024 21:17:45 GMT
I don't think Southgate really bottled it tonight,apart from maybe staring Kane , they were just better all over the pitch and really should have been out of sight before Palmer scored.
3 years ago v an average Italy team he definitely did ,that was the one that got away for me.
Oh well ,back to proper football in 4 weeks time !
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England
Jul 14, 2024 21:17:50 GMT
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Post by sportsman on Jul 14, 2024 21:17:50 GMT
We will be needing to come through a new right and left back for starters
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England
Jul 14, 2024 21:17:55 GMT
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Post by scfcwebby on Jul 14, 2024 21:17:55 GMT
He's 100% right We were fucking battering them, we had them on the ropes and he fucking shit himself and sat back wanting to take it to extra time. He's a fucking coward Battering them? 🤣🤣🤣 Created 0 clear cut chances. 2 shots on target all game. Only made it to 4 with the last minute corner save/goal line clearance. For 10 minutes when we were giving it a go, yes, we were battering them and had them on the ropes
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England
Jul 14, 2024 21:18:16 GMT
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Post by march4 on Jul 14, 2024 21:18:16 GMT
England’s competition record shows a striking difference between the times we were a member of the EU and the times we weren’t.
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England
Jul 14, 2024 21:18:23 GMT
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jul 14, 2024 21:18:23 GMT
Best team won but the lads didn’t let themselves down. Thought Bellingham should have been subbed straight after the goal, he was out on his feet. Can’t complain, better side won on the night. What really fucks me off is every time we get near to an extra bank holiday it doesn’t materialise🙄 I can't phone in sick tomorrow either 🙄 If we'd have won I'd have drunk more than Oliver Reed.
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Post by Han Solo on Jul 14, 2024 21:18:31 GMT
Spain deserved champions consistently good for the whole tournament. After we equalised really thought we had them on the back foot. When the commentator said just before they scored that he was bringing on Gallagher and Trippier I knew the writing was on the wall and what we were playing for.
Played ok today but on the whole it’s been a 5/10 tourno for us performance wise though to get to the final was an achievement.
Time for Gareth to go now as he’ll never get the best out of this squad as he’s way to cautious. Time to let a fresh pair of eyes looking at the squad and offering something different.
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Jul 14, 2024 21:18:55 GMT
Right team won.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 14, 2024 21:19:02 GMT
We will be needing to come through a new right and left back for starters Said all along lad from Palace should be in that team. Mitchell. Brilliant young left back
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England
Jul 14, 2024 21:19:45 GMT
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Post by headsgoup on Jul 14, 2024 21:19:45 GMT
We didn't play well all tournament. How we got to the final in the first place will remain a mystery to me. Carrying Kane I think was the major problem but easier said than done to discard your captain and top performer for the past decade. Either way, I have personally highly enjoyed the past 6 years of Southgate's period in charge of England. Never a tactical genius but excellent at creating teams willing to put everything on the line. I hope he leaves on this high and a new manager can build on what is largely an excellent squad of players I think this is how I feel. Can't argue with Southgate's record, but with Kane waning it's a complete tactical rethink that's needed. I think he's performed near enough exactly par with the players he's had. A kick here or there and it could have been very different, but that's football.
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Jul 14, 2024 21:19:48 GMT
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jul 14, 2024 21:19:48 GMT
Gareth has done an amazing job without being able to take the final step. Semi Final Quarters Final Everyone of us should recognise the run he has taken us on, however we absolutely need to make the change now. We need an attack minded coach to let the lads play with freedom with a front foot mentality. It's time to give Jürgen a call, even if he does say no. Lots of the yanks seem to think he’s going to take over as the head coach of USMNT… Well fuck them.
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England
Jul 14, 2024 21:19:58 GMT
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Post by Veritas on Jul 14, 2024 21:19:58 GMT
Don't be such a dick, Spain easily the best team in the tournament They were yes. England should have playing like them from the start and maybe they’d have a chance of beating them tonight Even if you don’t wanna look at it that way, they’ve bottled it again. If England had gone toe to toe with them it would have been over by HT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 14, 2024 21:20:08 GMT
You have to sit back and look at the bigger picture as tough as it is. 2 finals, a semi and a quarter finals in the last 4 tournaments suggests it will happen at some point.
Shake hands with Southgate, thank him for his excellent service and try and appoint a more dynamic manager that can get more out of this group offensively............
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Post by wannabee on Jul 14, 2024 21:20:41 GMT
Small Margins
If England had the good fortune tonight that they had through out the Tournament to reach the final they might have won and Southgate would be a Sir tomorrow
Anyone objectively looking at the game could see Spain were by far the better team tonight and throughout the Tournament
Familiarity with certain players causes overestimation of ability hyped by Sky "Best League in the World"
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 14, 2024 21:21:06 GMT
Let's not pretend we've been good in this tournament. We've been absolutely fucking dire with one of the best teams we've had in decades.
We were 20 seconds away from one of England's worst ever results in a tournament vs Slovakia at which point Southgate would have had many more things thrown at him and forced into immediate resignation.
People can defend Southgate if they want and pretend he's done a really good job but they are only kidding themselves.
Terrible performances throughout the tournament and as usual, it's a classic case of "lose against the first top side we come up against".
Hopefully Southgate resigns before boarding the flight home.
Fair play to Spain, they look destined for years of success.
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Jul 14, 2024 21:21:19 GMT
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 14, 2024 21:21:19 GMT
Lots of the yanks seem to think he’s going to take over as the head coach of USMNT… Well fuck them. He's turned them down apparently. Said he wants a break
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Jul 14, 2024 21:21:59 GMT
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jul 14, 2024 21:21:59 GMT
He's turned them down apparently. Said he wants a break Well he's had one now, time to get on the phone.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 14, 2024 21:23:37 GMT
Let's not pretend we've been good in this tournament. We've been absolutely fucking dire with one of the best teams we've had in decades. We were 20 seconds away from one of England's worst ever results in a tournament vs Slovakia at which point Southgate would have had many more things thrown at him and forced into immediate resignation. People can defend Southgate if they want and pretend he's done a really good job but they are only kidding themselves. Terrible performances and as usual it's a classic case of "lose against the first top side we come up against". Hopefully Southgate resigns before boarding the flight home. Sp let’s be clear who do we think does a better job , it has to be English , has to be a good role model be very careful what you wish for , it’s Eddie Howes England if he goes especially now the people who appointed him at Newcastle have gone
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 14, 2024 21:24:13 GMT
Gareth has done an amazing job without being able to take the final step. Semi Final Quarters Final Everyone of us should recognise the run he has taken us on, however we absolutely need to make the change now. We need an attack minded coach to let the lads play with freedom with a front foot mentality. It's time to give Jürgen a call, even if he does say no. Lots of the yanks seem to think he’s going to take over as the head coach of USMNT… United States Mutant Ninja Turtles?
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Post by lordb on Jul 14, 2024 21:24:30 GMT
Feel better than last time we messed that one up and Spain are much better than Italy were
England were poor earlier in the tournament but last games we played as well we could I think
Spain showed they are better today, simple as that
Time for Gareth to say he's done his bit and time for him to get the praise he deserves
No idea who the next England manager will be tbh
Pretty much the entire squad will be about in 2 years plus some otgers Strikers are all getting on a bit, need to find a young striker to add to the options but don't see one coming through atm
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Post by superjw on Jul 14, 2024 21:25:23 GMT
We will never win anything with an English manager it really is as simple as that.
We are not winners
I don’t feel quite as bad because we were bloody lucky to be in the final anyway, but we still threw this away after equalising
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Post by independent on Jul 14, 2024 21:26:04 GMT
Didn’t take Grealish. Never started Palmer or Gordon Persisted with Kane Always more worried about not losing than going out to win Yes we reached another final but yet again the bridesmaids Probably true. But our midfield was really poor. Bellingham wasn't great and Rice,who I like was really shown up. Walker and Shaw disappeared as the game went on. He had 2 very good subs available that he put on with plenty of time to win the game. The remaining subs like Gallagher were unlikely to make a difference. Gordon might have, if he got lucky. We had the momentum when we got it back to 1-1 but it was Pickford who had to take off the saves not Simon. I can't remember the Spanish keeper taking off a save.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jul 14, 2024 21:27:05 GMT
Let's not pretend we've been good in this tournament. We've been absolutely fucking dire with one of the best teams we've had in decades. We were 20 seconds away from one of England's worst ever results in a tournament vs Slovakia at which point Southgate would have had many more things thrown at him and forced into immediate resignation. People can defend Southgate if they want and pretend he's done a really good job but they are only kidding themselves. Terrible performances throughout the tournament and as usual, it's a classic case of "lose against the first top side we come up against". Hopefully Southgate resigns before boarding the flight home. Fair play to Spain, they look destined for years of success. In reality we managed one 20 min spell in 5 games. A couple if flashes of individual quality don't win tournaments.
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England
Jul 14, 2024 21:27:24 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jul 14, 2024 21:27:24 GMT
You have to sit back and look at the bigger picture as tough as it is. 2 finals, a semi and a quarter finals in the last 4 tournaments suggests it will happen at some point. Shake hands with Southgate, thank him for his excellent service and try and appoint a more dynamic manager that can get more out of this group offensively............ Agree Postecoglu? Pocchetino? Would either take the job? Is Potter a good option? Carsley? Will Howe take a pay cut? Would we want him?
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