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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 10, 2024 22:05:29 GMT
Of course it is. But there are some clear pretty big issues and because it’s Harry Kane shaped no one seems to have the minerals to want to solve it. Kane played well in the first half today. Joint top scorer in the tournament now and with an opportunity of winning the golden boot. He didn’t he was a statue where the ball and our moves went to die. Stifles our play so much.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jul 10, 2024 22:05:29 GMT
I think Foden is a fantastic player but I also think that Palmer is world class. He's on another level. Foden was sensational in the first half. At least as good as Yamal. If he does that against Spain for 60-70 minutes we win.
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 10, 2024 22:06:56 GMT
Kane played well in the first half today. Joint top scorer in the tournament now and with an opportunity of winning the golden boot. He didn’t he was a statue where the ball and our moves went to die. Stifles our play so much. Nope. He played well first half as did the rest of the team.
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Post by peterpan1 on Jul 10, 2024 22:07:17 GMT
No one remembers the runners up ! You know full well there's only one successful England manager unfortunately it’s from 60 yrs ago. Until Southgate actually wins something you can't label him successful. You will be able to by midnight on Sunday I'll come back to you at 00.01 then !
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Post by chad on Jul 10, 2024 22:07:44 GMT
instead of who? Foden, Bellingham, Mainoo, Saka all very important players for England. I think he works well as an impact sub. You need more than 11 players in these kind of games anyway. Foden Palmer must play. Instead of Mainoo for me. Hardly had a kick second half
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 10, 2024 22:07:56 GMT
He didn’t he was a statue where the ball and our moves went to die. Stifles our play so much. Nope. He played well first half as did the rest of the team. No he didn’t. Trippier was shit too. And Bellingham tbh but he needs to stay on just in case.
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Post by lordb on Jul 10, 2024 22:10:03 GMT
Spain would be delighted to see Kane on the bench
Same team, possibly Shaw in for Trippier
Keys is Rice Mainoo and Bellingham versus Rodri and pals
Proper final, both sides will have spells
Needs killers to take the chances
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Post by lordb on Jul 10, 2024 22:11:07 GMT
Nope. He played well first half as did the rest of the team. No he didn’t. Trippier was shit too. And Bellingham tbh but he needs to stay on just in case. Trip piers job was to stop Dumfries which he won hands down Dutch game plan was massively hampered by that
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 10, 2024 22:12:05 GMT
Nope. He played well first half as did the rest of the team. No he didn’t. Trippier was shit too. And Bellingham tbh but he needs to stay on just in case. I thought our reaction to going 0-1 down was superb. We played as well as we have done all tournament by a mile. Kane was fine, Trippier was half soaped occasionally and got caught offside a few times, and yeah Bellingham wasn’t great at all. They can’t all play well though can they? You seem to be demanding some kind of robotic perfection that simply will never happen.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jul 10, 2024 22:12:09 GMT
Mainoo
What a player - still only 19 but was that good they had to bring someone on to mark a defensive midfielder. That shoulder drop in the first half was sublime, sent him 10 yards into defence and just casually took the pass and turned.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 10, 2024 22:13:04 GMT
No he didn’t. Trippier was shit too. And Bellingham tbh but he needs to stay on just in case. Trip piers job was to stop Dumfries which he won hands down Dutch game plan was massively hampered by that Why are people worried about Dumfries 🤣weird attitude. Trippier is another who kills any intent like Kane.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jul 10, 2024 22:13:56 GMT
Mainoo What a player - still only 19 but was that good they had to bring someone on to mark a defensive midfielder. That shoulder drop in the first half was sublime, sent him 10 yards into defence and just casually took the pass and turned. I wasn’t sure before tonight but wow. He looked sensational at times.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jul 10, 2024 22:14:10 GMT
Trip piers job was to stop Dumfries which he won hands down Dutch game plan was massively hampered by that Why are people worried about Dumfries 🤣weird attitude. Trippier is another who kills any intent like Kane. He hit the bar…
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Post by march4 on Jul 10, 2024 22:14:31 GMT
Spain are going to be worried about our first half performance.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 10, 2024 22:15:11 GMT
No he didn’t. Trippier was shit too. And Bellingham tbh but he needs to stay on just in case. I thought our reaction to going 0-1 down was superb. We played as well as we have done all tournament by a mile. Kane was fine, Trippier was half soaped occasionally and got caught offside a few times, and yeah Bellingham wasn’t great at all. They can’t all play well though can they? You seem to be demanding some kind of robotic perfection that simply will never happen. It was and it was Mainoo and Foden who that was sparked from. And they can’t but you know my thoughts on Kane and I like Trippier overall but hes had a bad tournament too. And I’m not demanding anything of the sort. I’d just drop a bloke who I think hinders us and is atm playing like he’s got a truck on his back.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jul 10, 2024 22:15:17 GMT
Would you start Watkins on Sunday and put Kane on the bench? No, I don’t think I would. Spains defence is pretty good with quicker players, controlled Mbappe. Struggled with the more physical players. I think Toney would be the better option but Kane will get the nod. The challenge is how do we stop Rodri and Ruiz from dominating - we could potentially go without a striker and play palmer bit giving him the freedom to move and switch with Bellingham and Foden as the main forward. Saka to stay wide. Who would you go for BJR? To be honest I don't know alot about the more elite footballers, I have enough trying to keep tabs on Stoke and the Championship. From what I've seen, I'd start Watkins and Palmer and Saka and Foden. Against Spain we definitely have to be positive, different and " take it to them"
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 10, 2024 22:16:19 GMT
Scored the peno but yeah okay..... We have loads of players who can score a penalty, shown by 5 players scoring in a shoot out he wasn’t there for. If scoring the penalty is all he offers then he shouldn’t even be in the squad. Not even close to ALL he offers...
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 10, 2024 22:18:10 GMT
Bring in Shaw, the only change for me. The subs have made the difference, no need to change that philosophy. Surely you should be trying to make it so you don’t need the subs to make a difference? Obviously it’s good they have and you will need them at some point but to rely on it? Seems daft. I’m pissed
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jul 10, 2024 22:18:37 GMT
Kane played well in the first half today. Joint top scorer in the tournament now and with an opportunity of winning the golden boot. He didn’t he was a statue where the ball and our moves went to die. Stifles our play so much. can’t believe people are still defending him
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 10, 2024 22:20:43 GMT
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 10, 2024 22:21:42 GMT
Surely you should be trying to make it so you don’t need the subs to make a difference? Obviously it’s good they have and you will need them at some point but to rely on it? Seems daft. I’m pissed Now and again booze brings clarity. You're right..
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jul 10, 2024 22:27:07 GMT
No, I don’t think I would. Spains defence is pretty good with quicker players, controlled Mbappe. Struggled with the more physical players. I think Toney would be the better option but Kane will get the nod. The challenge is how do we stop Rodri and Ruiz from dominating - we could potentially go without a striker and play palmer bit giving him the freedom to move and switch with Bellingham and Foden as the main forward. Saka to stay wide. Who would you go for BJR? To be honest I don't know alot about the more elite footballers, I have enough trying to keep tabs on Stoke and the Championship. From what I've seen, I'd start Watkins and Palmer and Saka. Against Spain we definitely have to be positive, different and " take it to them" I’m the same, can only really go off this tournament. Agree about taking it to them. They’re happy to play on the break but if you can get on top of them in the middle you give yourself a chance. Spain are very good on the break right now, Williams and Yamal play with no fear which is the risk you take in trying to dominate. For us, if we go Watkins he will be constantly making runs and doesn’t need much of an invite to shoot. If you don’t shoot, you don’t score and when you’ve got players like foden, palmer and Saka who can make the pass you know you’ll get a chance. Spain are happy to drop deep which limits the room you’ve got in behind. Whenever Mbappe got the ball they didn’t tackle until they doubled up on him and with Carvalaj back they’ll be a lot more solid. We can’t tire them out so to win we need moments and luck. One plus is Shaw coming back and looking fit - that natural balance on the left can only be a positive. Spain have been the best team of the tournament but we’ve got better as it’s got on - it’s not where you start, but where you finish. If we turn up and play then that’s the best we can do and I’ll be happy with that.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 10, 2024 22:32:23 GMT
To be honest I don't know alot about the more elite footballers, I have enough trying to keep tabs on Stoke and the Championship. From what I've seen, I'd start Watkins and Palmer and Saka. Against Spain we definitely have to be positive, different and " take it to them" I’m the same, can only really go off this tournament. Agree about taking it to them. They’re happy to play on the break but if you can get on top of them in the middle you give yourself a chance. Spain are very good on the break right now, Williams and Yamal play with no fear which is the risk you take in trying to dominate. For us, if we go Watkins he will be constantly making runs and doesn’t need much of an invite to shoot. If you don’t shoot, you don’t score and when you’ve got players like foden, palmer and Saka who can make the pass you know you’ll get a chance. Spain are happy to drop deep which limits the room you’ve got in behind. Whenever Mbappe got the ball they didn’t tackle until they doubled up on him and with Carvalaj back they’ll be a lot more solid. We can’t tire them out so to win we need moments and luck. One plus is Shaw coming back and looking fit - that natural balance on the left can only be a positive. Spain have been the best team of the tournament but we’ve got better as it’s got on - it’s not where you start, but where you finish. If we turn up and play then that’s the best we can do and I’ll be happy with that. Keep Foden central is all I'll say. Best player in Europe this season there in my opinion. The rest falls into place
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jul 10, 2024 22:36:08 GMT
I’m the same, can only really go off this tournament. Agree about taking it to them. They’re happy to play on the break but if you can get on top of them in the middle you give yourself a chance. Spain are very good on the break right now, Williams and Yamal play with no fear which is the risk you take in trying to dominate. For us, if we go Watkins he will be constantly making runs and doesn’t need much of an invite to shoot. If you don’t shoot, you don’t score and when you’ve got players like foden, palmer and Saka who can make the pass you know you’ll get a chance. Spain are happy to drop deep which limits the room you’ve got in behind. Whenever Mbappe got the ball they didn’t tackle until they doubled up on him and with Carvalaj back they’ll be a lot more solid. We can’t tire them out so to win we need moments and luck. One plus is Shaw coming back and looking fit - that natural balance on the left can only be a positive. Spain have been the best team of the tournament but we’ve got better as it’s got on - it’s not where you start, but where you finish. If we turn up and play then that’s the best we can do and I’ll be happy with that. Keep Foden central is all I'll say. Best player in Europe this season there in my opinion. The rest falls into place Just got to give him freedom, he can find his own space. The more he’s on the ball the better you’ll do.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 10, 2024 22:36:53 GMT
I’m the same, can only really go off this tournament. Agree about taking it to them. They’re happy to play on the break but if you can get on top of them in the middle you give yourself a chance. Spain are very good on the break right now, Williams and Yamal play with no fear which is the risk you take in trying to dominate. For us, if we go Watkins he will be constantly making runs and doesn’t need much of an invite to shoot. If you don’t shoot, you don’t score and when you’ve got players like foden, palmer and Saka who can make the pass you know you’ll get a chance. Spain are happy to drop deep which limits the room you’ve got in behind. Whenever Mbappe got the ball they didn’t tackle until they doubled up on him and with Carvalaj back they’ll be a lot more solid. We can’t tire them out so to win we need moments and luck. One plus is Shaw coming back and looking fit - that natural balance on the left can only be a positive. Spain have been the best team of the tournament but we’ve got better as it’s got on - it’s not where you start, but where you finish. If we turn up and play then that’s the best we can do and I’ll be happy with that. Keep Foden central is all I'll say. Best player in Europe this season there in my opinion. The rest falls into place Where he plays he is Messi like. Obviously not as good but does what Messi does/did. Dribbles, pass and move and bends shit pingers in off his left foot. He played there for the first time this tournament tonight in the first half. I think he was MoM overall tbh. He has to play there.
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Post by dirtclod on Jul 10, 2024 22:42:39 GMT
And they aren't in Carolina. I hate that freaking yuppie song. But congratulations on reaching the final! Now finish the job! Sweet Caroline has absolutely nothing to do with North or South Carolina. Hilarious 😂 The use of it in Sport as an anthem was started shortly after Diamond came out with it years ago in the US at N. Carolina basketball games and S. Carolina football games. At least that's the first I heard it at any sporting venue. I realize that it has nothing to do with either Carolina, but should have said that in my post - so point taken!
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Post by smallthorner on Jul 10, 2024 22:51:47 GMT
Spain would be delighted to see Kane on the bench Same team, possibly Shaw in for Trippier Keys is Rice Mainoo and Bellingham versus Rodri and pals Proper final, both sides will have spells Needs killers to take the chances Palmer
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Post by staffordstokiemad1 on Jul 10, 2024 23:00:26 GMT
We found a way AGAIN, to all you negative posters, BELIEVE, it’s a beautiful thing. COME ONNNNN
SIR GARETH SOUTHGATE.
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Post by Gifton on Jul 10, 2024 23:10:05 GMT
Surely you should be trying to make it so you don’t need the subs to make a difference? Obviously it’s good they have and you will need them at some point but to rely on it? Seems daft. I’m pissed Don't back down bro, I make you right.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 10, 2024 23:13:55 GMT
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