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Post by dirtygary69 on Jul 7, 2024 10:22:57 GMT
1988: Not Qualified 1990: Semi 1992: Not Qualified 1994: Not Qualified 1996: Semis 1998: Last 16 2000: Group Stage 2002: Quarters 2004: Quarters 2006: Quarters 2008: Not Qualified 2010: Last 16 2012: Quarters 2014: Groups 2016: Last 16 (Iceland) ------------------------------------ 2018: Semis 2020: Runner-up 2022: Quarters 2024: Semis* In my lifetime (I'm 35 years old). I've seen 5 semi-finals for England, three of those have been under Gareth Southgate, one of the other two was then I was one year old. I was only born in 2017 so our tournament is record is exceptional as far as I’m concerned. Now let’s get this one won, you fuckers.
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Post by superjw on Jul 7, 2024 10:34:00 GMT
1988: Not Qualified 1990: Semi 1992: Not Qualified 1994: Not Qualified 1996: Semis 1998: Last 16 2000: Group Stage 2002: Quarters 2004: Quarters 2006: Quarters 2008: Not Qualified 2010: Last 16 2012: Quarters 2014: Groups 2016: Last 16 (Iceland) ------------------------------------ 2018: Semis 2020: Runner-up 2022: Quarters 2024: Semis* In my lifetime (I'm 35 years old). I've seen 5 semi-finals for England, three of those have been under Gareth Southgate, one of the other two was then I was one year old. I was only born in 2017 so our tournament is record is exceptional as far as I’m concerned. Now let’s get this one won, you fuckers. Your extremely eloquent for your age mate…
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jul 7, 2024 10:38:47 GMT
I was only born in 2017 so our tournament is record is exceptional as far as I’m concerned. Now let’s get this one won, you fuckers. Your extremely eloquent for your age mate… You’re*
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Post by staffordstokiemad1 on Jul 7, 2024 11:28:59 GMT
Seen a few negative posts on here, we are in yet another Semi Final of a major tournament, the so called golden generation never once managed that. If this was Germany everyone would be saying typical Germans, they always find a way to win and are tournament wise.
2016 we went out to bloody Iceland in the last 16, since then it’s been Semi Final, Final, Quarter Final and Semi Final#, get behind the team.
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Post by premieraj on Jul 7, 2024 11:43:46 GMT
Your extremely eloquent for your age mate… You’re* Great user name too for someone so young 😜
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Jul 7, 2024 11:49:07 GMT
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Post by premieraj on Jul 7, 2024 11:49:07 GMT
Has anyone seen the photo going around of Pickford’s water bottle showing which way to dive for each Switzerland player?
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Jul 7, 2024 11:52:03 GMT
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Post by march4 on Jul 7, 2024 11:52:03 GMT
GK Bert Williams RB Alf Ramsey LB John Aston WH Billy Wright (c) CH Laurie Hughes WH Jimmy Dickinson OR Tom Finney IF Wilf Mannion CF Roy Bentley IF Stan Mortensen OL Jimmy Mullen
This England team managed to lose to USA.
Over the years, we had some great players and never performed. I prefer us to get to the latter stages of tournaments no matter how bad the football
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Jul 7, 2024 11:53:33 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jul 7, 2024 11:53:33 GMT
GK Bert Williams RB Alf Ramsey LB John Aston WH Billy Wright (c) CH Laurie Hughes WH Jimmy Dickinson OR Tom Finney IF Wilf Mannion CF Roy Bentley IF Stan Mortensen OL Jimmy Mullen This England team managed to lose to USA. Over the years, we had some great players and never performed. I prefer us to get to the latter stages of tournaments no matter how bad the football Apparently we hammered them, just one of those days
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Jul 7, 2024 11:57:57 GMT
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Post by march4 on Jul 7, 2024 11:57:57 GMT
Peter Shilton Norman Hunter Roy McFarland Emlyn Hughes Colin Bell Tony Currie Paul Madeley Martin Peters Mick Channon Martin Chivers Alan Clarke
And this was the team who failed to beat Poland.
More excellent players who underperformed.
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Jul 7, 2024 12:04:13 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jul 7, 2024 12:04:13 GMT
Peter Shilton Norman Hunter Roy McFarland Emlyn Hughes Colin Bell Tony Currie Paul Madeley Martin Peters Mick Channon Martin Chivers Alan Clarke And this was the team who failed to beat Poland. More excellent players who underperformed. Poland got the semis didn't they?
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Jul 7, 2024 12:24:08 GMT
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Post by ethers26 on Jul 7, 2024 12:24:08 GMT
1988: Not Qualified 1990: Semi 1992: Not Qualified 1994: Not Qualified 1996: Semis 1998: Last 16 2000: Group Stage 2002: Quarters 2004: Quarters 2006: Quarters 2008: Not Qualified 2010: Last 16 2012: Quarters 2014: Groups 2016: Last 16 (Iceland) ------------------------------------ 2018: Semis 2020: Runner-up 2022: Quarters 2024: Semis* In my lifetime (I'm 35 years old). I've seen 5 semi-finals for England, three of those have been under Gareth Southgate, one of the other two was then I was one year old. Not knocking us - as you can only beat what's in front of you - but the levels of international football has gone down somewhat to be fair.
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Jul 7, 2024 12:27:23 GMT
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Post by march4 on Jul 7, 2024 12:27:23 GMT
Peter Shilton Norman Hunter Roy McFarland Emlyn Hughes Colin Bell Tony Currie Paul Madeley Martin Peters Mick Channon Martin Chivers Alan Clarke And this was the team who failed to beat Poland. More excellent players who underperformed. Poland got the semis didn't they? They did and were very unfortunate not to reach the final. They lost to West Germany in a match delayed due to days of torrential rain. The pitch was unplayable and went from a swimming pool in the first half to a muddy quagmire in the second. The Poles had played fast flowing football and couldn’t really get going in the conditions. Even the referee had problems keeping his balance on the slippery surface. 15 minutes from time Muller did what he does best and scored the only goal of the game.
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 7, 2024 12:42:33 GMT
1988: Not Qualified 1990: Semi 1992: Not Qualified 1994: Not Qualified 1996: Semis 1998: Last 16 2000: Group Stage 2002: Quarters 2004: Quarters 2006: Quarters 2008: Not Qualified 2010: Last 16 2012: Quarters 2014: Groups 2016: Last 16 (Iceland) ------------------------------------ 2018: Semis 2020: Runner-up 2022: Quarters 2024: Semis* In my lifetime (I'm 35 years old). I've seen 5 semi-finals for England, three of those have been under Gareth Southgate, one of the other two was then I was one year old. Not knocking us - as you can only beat what's in front of you - but the levels of international football has gone down somewhat to be fair. Really? I was thinking perhaps the opposite was true tbh? What makes you say that? Teams that used to be whipping boys seem more difficult to beat?
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Jul 7, 2024 12:46:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2024 12:46:31 GMT
Not knocking us - as you can only beat what's in front of you - but the levels of international football has gone down somewhat to be fair. Really? I was thinking perhaps the opposite was true tbh? What makes you say that? Teams that used to be whipping boys seem more difficult to beat? I'd tend to agree. If you look at where the 'lesser teams' players now play, a lot of them (that we've probably never heard of) play at a good level. Teams getting rogered 4, 5 nil at this level just doesn't happen much any more. I also think that even the 'lesser nations' are much more tactically astute, these days.
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Jul 7, 2024 12:49:09 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jul 7, 2024 12:49:09 GMT
Poland got the semis didn't they? They did and were very unfortunate not to reach the final. They lost to West Germany in a match delayed due to days of torrential rain. The pitch was unplayable and went from a swimming pool in the first half to a muddy quagmire in the second. The Poles had played fast flowing football and couldn’t really get going in the conditions. Even the referee had problems keeping his balance on the slippery surface. 15 minutes from time Muller did what he does best and scored the only goal of the game. Bit before my time but yep, seen You Tube of what looked a really good side. Lato, did Deyna play then? Oddly W Germany beat Hungary in similar sounding conditions in 54 after being hammered by them a few days earlier...the Adidas boots game.
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Post by Veritas on Jul 7, 2024 12:59:34 GMT
Peter Shilton Norman Hunter Roy McFarland Emlyn Hughes Colin Bell Tony Currie Paul Madeley Martin Peters Mick Channon Martin Chivers Alan Clarke And this was the team who failed to beat Poland. More excellent players who underperformed. Poland got the semis didn't they? England failed to qualify for both the 74 and 78 World Cups and these are usually seen as dreadful failures but it is often forgotten that there were only 8 European qualifying slots in 74 and 9 in 78 and the countries that knocked us out finished 3rd and 4th in those tournaments.
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Jul 7, 2024 13:03:56 GMT
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Post by march4 on Jul 7, 2024 13:03:56 GMT
Poland got the semis didn't they? England failed to qualify for both the 74 and 78 World Cups and these are usually seen as dreadful failures but it is often forgotten that there were only 8 European qualifying slots in 74 and 9 in 78 and the countries that knocked us out finished 3rd and 4th in those tournaments. We also failed to qualify for the 1972 Euros with West Germany putting us out.
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Post by Veritas on Jul 7, 2024 13:43:11 GMT
England failed to qualify for both the 74 and 78 World Cups and these are usually seen as dreadful failures but it is often forgotten that there were only 8 European qualifying slots in 74 and 9 in 78 and the countries that knocked us out finished 3rd and 4th in those tournaments. We also failed to qualify for the 1972 Euros with West Germany putting us out. That is not quite the same as then the Euro "finals" only featured the semis and final. Eventual winners W Germany beat us over two legs in the Q Final masterminded by the brilliant Gunter Netzer.
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Jul 7, 2024 14:14:11 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jul 7, 2024 14:14:11 GMT
Poland got the semis didn't they? England failed to qualify for both the 74 and 78 World Cups and these are usually seen as dreadful failures but it is often forgotten that there were only 8 European qualifying slots in 74 and 9 in 78 and the countries that knocked us out finished 3rd and 4th in those tournaments. I remember the Italy qualifier and the Tardelli elbow as a rare live TV game
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jul 7, 2024 14:39:22 GMT
Foden has been utter wank out of all England players this tournament.
Even yesterday he got to play in his central position. Saw lots of the ball but hardly did anything of use during the 115 minutes he was on the pitch.
He is taking Free Kicks and corners and seems completely undroppable, but I just dont see him contributing to the team how he does for Man City. Probably trying a little too hard, and I generally love the guy.
But hes been complete turd for 5 games now taking no risks, mainly passing it back and not many dribbles.
Should be dropped for me and get Palmer on from the start. Every time he gets the ball he heads towards the opposition goal at least.
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Post by march4 on Jul 7, 2024 14:58:24 GMT
We also failed to qualify for the 1972 Euros with West Germany putting us out. That is not quite the same as then the Euro "finals" only featured the semis and final. Eventual winners W Germany beat us over two legs in the Q Final masterminded by the brilliant Gunter Netzer. True. I was unintentionally misleading. Still remember Banksie thinking he had saved a penalty in the 3-1 defeat at Wembley only to see the ball spin back into the net off the post.
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Jul 7, 2024 15:09:23 GMT
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Post by ethers26 on Jul 7, 2024 15:09:23 GMT
Not knocking us - as you can only beat what's in front of you - but the levels of international football has gone down somewhat to be fair. Really? I was thinking perhaps the opposite was true tbh? What makes you say that? Teams that used to be whipping boys seem more difficult to beat? It's more the 'bigger' nations. The smaller nations have always had some surprises (Greece, Turkey back in the day) France, Italy, Spain, Germany, Holland, even Portugal, used to be littered with many of the best players of all time. I always felt that was the difference when it got to the knockout stages. Same with Brazil in the World Cups.
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Jul 7, 2024 16:06:44 GMT
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Post by smallthorner on Jul 7, 2024 16:06:44 GMT
Foden has been utter wank out of all England players this tournament. Even yesterday he got to play in his central position. Saw lots of the ball but hardly did anything of use during the 115 minutes he was on the pitch. He is taking Free Kicks and corners and seems completely undroppable, but I just dont see him contributing to the team how he does for Man City. Probably trying a little too hard, and I generally love the guy. But hes been complete turd for 5 games now taking no risks, mainly passing it back and not many dribbles. Should be dropped for me and get Palmer on from the start. Every time he gets the ball he heads towards the opposition goal at least. 100% agree.
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Jul 7, 2024 16:08:41 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jul 7, 2024 16:08:41 GMT
Foden has been utter wank out of all England players this tournament. Even yesterday he got to play in his central position. Saw lots of the ball but hardly did anything of use during the 115 minutes he was on the pitch. He is taking Free Kicks and corners and seems completely undroppable, but I just dont see him contributing to the team how he does for Man City. Probably trying a little too hard, and I generally love the guy. But hes been complete turd for 5 games now taking no risks, mainly passing it back and not many dribbles. Should be dropped for me and get Palmer on from the start. Every time he gets the ball he heads towards the opposition goal at least. His best game yesterday and he, like the entire side, didn't lay a glove on the Swiss Palmer looks brighter atm
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Post by baconburger on Jul 7, 2024 16:17:10 GMT
Foden has been utter wank out of all England players this tournament. Even yesterday he got to play in his central position. Saw lots of the ball but hardly did anything of use during the 115 minutes he was on the pitch. He is taking Free Kicks and corners and seems completely undroppable, but I just dont see him contributing to the team how he does for Man City. Probably trying a little too hard, and I generally love the guy. But hes been complete turd for 5 games now taking no risks, mainly passing it back and not many dribbles. Should be dropped for me and get Palmer on from the start. Every time he gets the ball he heads towards the opposition goal at least.Perhaps that's why he can't get a game it doesn't seem to be part of the plan. Only attack when you absolutely have to.
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Post by smallthorner on Jul 7, 2024 16:19:34 GMT
My team for Wednesday
4231
Pickford
Walker Stones Guehi Shaw
Bellingham Rice
Saka Palmer Gordon
Toney
Matching up against the Hollanders.
Back to three at back for final 😃
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Post by 1948fitch on Jul 7, 2024 17:35:53 GMT
Foden has been utter wank out of all England players this tournament. Even yesterday he got to play in his central position. Saw lots of the ball but hardly did anything of use during the 115 minutes he was on the pitch. He is taking Free Kicks and corners and seems completely undroppable, but I just dont see him contributing to the team how he does for Man City. Probably trying a little too hard, and I generally love the guy. But hes been complete turd for 5 games now taking no risks, mainly passing it back and not many dribbles. Should be dropped for me and get Palmer on from the start. Every time he gets the ball he heads towards the opposition goal at least. 100% agree. all true but haven't noticed Bellingham being standout after all the hype think Rice hasn't been too bad
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Post by lordb on Jul 7, 2024 17:44:04 GMT
all true but haven't noticed Bellingham being standout after all the hype think Rice hasn't been too bad No one has really played well from an attacking viewpoint We all know they all can 20 minutes of what they can actually produce would beat the Dutch
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Jul 7, 2024 17:48:52 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 7, 2024 17:48:52 GMT
all true but haven't noticed Bellingham being standout after all the hype think Rice hasn't been too bad No one has really played well from an attacking viewpoint We all know they all can 20 minutes of what they can actually produce would beat the Dutch Absolutely, but I really don’t think we have a twenty minute spell in us. Still, come on England!!!!
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Jul 7, 2024 20:03:40 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 7, 2024 20:03:40 GMT
The Dutch are quite fluid formation wise, start with 4 at the back but invariably become 3 with Dumfries bombing on and Ake dropping into centre back territory. We simply have to win the midfield battle to stand a chance. So what will Southgates plan be seeing as the plan to match up Switzerland failed in the grand scheme? I’d go 433 with 3 bone fide midfielders (Rice, Mainoo and Bellingham) what goes on in forward areas is anyones guess but I’d play two wide men in Saka and Gordon, that would mean leaving Foden out which he could t complain about as far as I’m concerned.
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