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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 6, 2024 22:03:09 GMT
1988: Not Qualified 1990: Semi 1992: Not Qualified 1994: Not Qualified 1996: Semis 1998: Last 16 2000: Group Stage 2002: Quarters 2004: Quarters 2006: Quarters 2008: Not Qualified 2010: Last 16 2012: Quarters 2014: Groups 2016: Last 16 (Iceland) ------------------------------------ 2018: Semis 2020: Runner-up 2022: Quarters 2024: Semis* In my lifetime (I'm 35 years old). I've seen 5 semi-finals for England, three of those have been under Gareth Southgate, one of the other two was then I was one year old. As the old saying goes it’s better to be lucky than good.
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Jul 6, 2024 22:04:54 GMT
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 6, 2024 22:04:54 GMT
Ok was watching in a pub in Manchester and thought it was terrible, maybe was better than I thought, usually watch on my home at home Better than the other games but no creativity, goal was our first shot Pressed better, played in their half, players looked like they gave a shit Painful approach play Foden got on the ball, worked his socks off, created nothing I wouldn't argue with any point of that mate. It seems a decent defense is going to get you to the final. I thought for the first 80% of the pitch it was definitely better. 180 minutes left..
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Jul 6, 2024 22:10:39 GMT
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Post by peterpan1 on Jul 6, 2024 22:10:39 GMT
1988: Not Qualified 1990: Semi 1992: Not Qualified 1994: Not Qualified 1996: Semis 1998: Last 16 2000: Group Stage 2002: Quarters 2004: Quarters 2006: Quarters 2008: Not Qualified 2010: Last 16 2012: Quarters 2014: Groups 2016: Last 16 (Iceland) ------------------------------------ 2018: Semis 2020: Runner-up 2022: Quarters 2024: Semis* In my lifetime (I'm 35 years old). I've seen 5 semi-finals for England, three of those have been under Gareth Southgate, one of the other two was then I was one year old. You may as well watched since 1966, we've still won fuck all !
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Post by Han Solo on Jul 6, 2024 22:14:42 GMT
So Holland it is.
They’ve looked good the last couple of games but thought Turkey really got at them tonight and were unlucky.
They’re bearable and may suit us more than our previous games because they want to play and are less disciplined.
I fully expect Southgate to go down the same route with the same 10 / 11 starting again. What worries me is there must be a few running on empty by now with Kane the biggest example.
I’d go with
Pickford
Konsa Stones Guaye
Shaw Bellingham Rice Alexander Arnold
Palmer Toney Saka
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Post by lordb on Jul 6, 2024 22:17:09 GMT
Better than the other games but no creativity, goal was our first shot Pressed better, played in their half, players looked like they gave a shit Painful approach play Foden got on the ball, worked his socks off, created nothing Pretty much as I saw it, so abysmal. Credit to the pen takers mind. My biggest gripe was the delay in subbing Kane. Love him but Christ we may as well have played with ten tonight, he should have been hooked in the first ten minutes of the second half. I’m not convinced at all that the formation was right either. We were again very good at the back so that’s another positive for the Southgate fan club Delay in subs full stop First half we were the better side without laying a glove on them Second half Swiss were better, 60 minutes it was clear changes needed to be made
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 6, 2024 22:18:32 GMT
1988: Not Qualified 1990: Semi 1992: Not Qualified 1994: Not Qualified 1996: Semis 1998: Last 16 2000: Group Stage 2002: Quarters 2004: Quarters 2006: Quarters 2008: Not Qualified 2010: Last 16 2012: Quarters 2014: Groups 2016: Last 16 (Iceland) ------------------------------------ 2018: Semis 2020: Runner-up 2022: Quarters 2024: Semis* In my lifetime (I'm 35 years old). I've seen 5 semi-finals for England, three of those have been under Gareth Southgate, one of the other two was then I was one year old. As the old saying goes it’s better to be lucky than good. It's true in some respects. While I obviously agree the football is poor and quite painful to watch, I honestly believe you make your own luck in football, especially over time. The manager has just made us difficult to beat, and the fact is, teams who are difficult to beat often do well in these kind of tournaments. There have been winners before who have not been very thrilling to watch.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 6, 2024 22:26:29 GMT
As the old saying goes it’s better to be lucky than good. It's true in some respects. While I obviously agree the football is poor and quite painful to watch, I honestly believe you make your own luck in football, especially over time. The manager has just made us difficult to beat, and the fact is, teams who are difficult to beat often do well in these kind of tournaments. There have been winners before who have not been very thrilling to watch. I don’t subscribe to that. Our football is shite and the enthusiasm is zero.
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 6, 2024 22:43:11 GMT
It's true in some respects. While I obviously agree the football is poor and quite painful to watch, I honestly believe you make your own luck in football, especially over time. The manager has just made us difficult to beat, and the fact is, teams who are difficult to beat often do well in these kind of tournaments. There have been winners before who have not been very thrilling to watch. I don’t subscribe to that. Our football is shite and the enthusiasm is zero. I'm not sure about that, I was in Sheffield city centre this evening after the game and pubs were packed with England tops singing their heads off and looking very merry indeed. Football fans sing when they are winning, that's all most of them are bothered about.
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Post by werrington on Jul 6, 2024 22:44:42 GMT
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Post by werrington on Jul 6, 2024 22:45:46 GMT
It's true in some respects. While I obviously agree the football is poor and quite painful to watch, I honestly believe you make your own luck in football, especially over time. The manager has just made us difficult to beat, and the fact is, teams who are difficult to beat often do well in these kind of tournaments. There have been winners before who have not been very thrilling to watch. I don’t subscribe to that. Our football is shite and the enthusiasm is zero. Enthusiasm certainly wasn’t zero where I was tonight It was mental
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Jul 6, 2024 22:54:30 GMT
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Post by werrington on Jul 6, 2024 22:54:30 GMT
It's true in some respects. While I obviously agree the football is poor and quite painful to watch, I honestly believe you make your own luck in football, especially over time. The manager has just made us difficult to beat, and the fact is, teams who are difficult to beat often do well in these kind of tournaments. There have been winners before who have not been very thrilling to watch. I don’t subscribe to that. Our football is shite and the enthusiasm is zero. Whose enthusiasm is zero? When England won did nobody give a fuck in your pub?
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Jul 6, 2024 23:13:35 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 6, 2024 23:13:35 GMT
I don’t subscribe to that. Our football is shite and the enthusiasm is zero. Whose enthusiasm is zero? When England won did nobody give a fuck in your pub? During the 120 minutes plus or turgid football. I know you are Englands biggest fan but I felt we well below par again. Maybe I’m being harsh but come on, these performances are not what we expect as fans
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jul 6, 2024 23:15:59 GMT
I don’t subscribe to that. Our football is shite and the enthusiasm is zero. Whose enthusiasm is zero? When England won did nobody give a fuck in your pub? Perhaps it was an apathy theme pub
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Jul 6, 2024 23:16:48 GMT
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Post by werrington on Jul 6, 2024 23:16:48 GMT
Whose enthusiasm is zero? When England won did nobody give a fuck in your pub? During the 120 minutes plus or turgid football. I know you are Englands biggest fan but I felt we well below par again. Maybe I’m being harsh but come on, these performances are not what we expect as fans I’m not England’s biggest fan You said interest was/is zero …..are you saying people weren’t watching the match and totally disinterested?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 6, 2024 23:20:39 GMT
During the 120 minutes plus or turgid football. I know you are Englands biggest fan but I felt we well below par again. Maybe I’m being harsh but come on, these performances are not what we expect as fans I’m not England’s biggest fan You said interest was/is zero …..are you saying people weren’t watching the match and totally disinterested? No I’m saying people have become apathetic watching us play. We celebrated the goals but there was no positive energy again, it was all trepidation and nerves. We really are an incredibly boring side. Deny it all you like
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Jul 6, 2024 23:24:09 GMT
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Post by werrington on Jul 6, 2024 23:24:09 GMT
I’m not England’s biggest fan You said interest was/is zero …..are you saying people weren’t watching the match and totally disinterested? No I’m saying people have become apathetic watching us play. We celebrated the goals but there was no positive energy again, it was all trepidation and nerves. We really are an incredibly boring side. Deny it all you like Beep beep ….Hartshill is reversing 😊 I’m off to sleep now, cmon England
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 6, 2024 23:27:41 GMT
No I’m saying people have become apathetic watching us play. We celebrated the goals but there was no positive energy again, it was all trepidation and nerves. We really are an incredibly boring side. Deny it all you like Beep beep ….Hartshill is reversing 😊 I’m off to sleep now, cmon England I aren’t reversing, I may have been a bit clumsy with my words. Good night and let’s smash the Dutch 5 nil on Wednesday👍🏻 I am still optimistic!
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Post by willieeetmiout on Jul 6, 2024 23:29:03 GMT
Ok was watching in a pub in Manchester and thought it was terrible, maybe was better than I thought, usually watch on my home at home Better than the other games but no creativity, goal was our first shot Pressed better, played in their half, players looked like they gave a shit Painful approach play Foden got on the ball, worked his socks off, created nothing Foden, for me, is our biggest problem at the moment. He is lining up as the left sided attacker but he is forever coming inside to get the ball or dropping deep centrally to get it. It makes us so easy to play against defensively. Tuck the right back in tight. Crowd the middle and force us to play down the right. Double up on Saka. That means Saka gets it. Passes to Mainoo/TAA/Gallagher/Walker and the ball just gets recycled. When we eventually switch the play there is the right footed full back Trippier who is left with passing it backwards and the ball gets recycled again. Even when Palmer and Eze came on it was the same. Amazed Gordon has had no game time as he solves this problem.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 6, 2024 23:30:10 GMT
Better than the other games but no creativity, goal was our first shot Pressed better, played in their half, players looked like they gave a shit Painful approach play Foden got on the ball, worked his socks off, created nothing Foden, for me, is our biggest problem at the moment. He is lining up as the left sided attacker but he is forever coming inside to get the ball or dropping deep centrally to get it. It makes us so easy to play against defensively. Tuck the right back in tight. Crowd the middle and force us to play down the right. Double up on Saka. That means Saka gets it. Passes to Mainoo/TAA/Gallagher/Walker and the ball just gets recycled. When we eventually switch the play there is the right footed full back Trippier who is left with passing it backwards and the ball gets recycled again. Even when Palmer and Eze came on it was the same. Amazed Gordon has had no game time as he solves this problem. We’re crying out for Gordon
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jul 6, 2024 23:35:52 GMT
Whose enthusiasm is zero? When England won did nobody give a fuck in your pub? Perhaps it was an apathy theme pub I nearly went to one of those but couldn't be arsed.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 6, 2024 23:51:23 GMT
Sky sports gave Saka 10 out of 10 tonight. Do me a favour
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Post by mtrstudent on Jul 6, 2024 23:58:03 GMT
I don’t subscribe to that. Our football is shite and the enthusiasm is zero. Whose enthusiasm is zero? When England won did nobody give a fuck in your pub? It felt weird to me. Out in LA and had to queue up before opening time, plenty of flags and hats and one lad had a sound system playing the usual hits with people jumping about and singing along. High energy until Southgateball started. I think he's beaten the shit out of a lot of the enthusiasm here. The only bits that got people up and cheering in 120+ mins were the subs and Saka's goal, which is shite return tbh considering the same pub was bouncing in previous cups. Most of the rest was sarcastic cheers for every pass back to Pickford. Funny feeling, there was a huge rush and a mental when we got through, but it also felt a bit... hollow? Most of the 120+ mins were boring and we were lucky.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jul 7, 2024 0:13:15 GMT
During the 120 minutes plus or turgid football. I know you are Englands biggest fan but I felt we well below par again. Maybe I’m being harsh but come on, these performances are not what we expect as fans I’m not England’s biggest fan You said interest was/is zero …..are you saying people weren’t watching the match and totally disinterested? Only speaking for Baddeley Green really but when we won that shootout there were tears and screams and everything in-between. At the end of the day we all want England to piss it but the fact is that it doesn't work like that. We are through to the semi finals, something that when I was younger was more a myth than something that was possible but here we are.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jul 7, 2024 0:26:54 GMT
Sky sports gave Saka 10 out of 10 tonight. Do me a favour I agree mate but that sounded so gay.
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Post by alsagerstokie on Jul 7, 2024 6:25:43 GMT
Don't know if its been mentioned.
However im not his biggest fan and he hasn't had a lot to do but when he has he's been dependable.
Hats of to Pickford.
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Jul 7, 2024 7:01:42 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jul 7, 2024 7:01:42 GMT
Don't know if its been mentioned. However im not his biggest fan and he hasn't had a lot to do but when he has he's been dependable. Hats of to Pickford. He did OK Feet were OK Didn't have a lot to do really
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Jul 7, 2024 7:11:24 GMT
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Post by stoke1989 on Jul 7, 2024 7:11:24 GMT
I'm delighted we're through to the semi's however It would be far more enjoyable if the football wasn't so boring. I don't know how I'd feel if we went on to win it this way.
I blame pep.
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Post by mattythestokie on Jul 7, 2024 7:14:29 GMT
Don't know if its been mentioned. However im not his biggest fan and he hasn't had a lot to do but when he has he's been dependable. Hats of to Pickford. Quite strange how people don’t like him for England. He’s been nothing but exceptional since he’s worn the England top and will go down as one of the most reliable we’ve ever had due to his performances.
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Post by shrewspotter on Jul 7, 2024 7:19:07 GMT
If we going for a 3-4-2-1 formation I'd go
Pickford Walker-Stones-Guehi Saka-Bellingham-Rice-Shaw Foden-Palmer Toney
Clearly though Kane will play and highly doubt Palmer will play
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Jul 7, 2024 7:23:16 GMT
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Post by headsgoup on Jul 7, 2024 7:23:16 GMT
So Holland it is. They’ve looked good the last couple of games but thought Turkey really got at them tonight and were unlucky. They’re bearable and may suit us more than our previous games because they want to play and are less disciplined. I fully expect Southgate to go down the same route with the same 10 / 11 starting again. What worries me is there must be a few running on empty by now with Kane the biggest example. I’d go with Pickford Konsa Stones Guaye Shaw Bellingham Rice Alexander Arnold Palmer Toney Saka Might go with Walker rather than TAA there for solidity, but looks good otherwise. Basically, any team with players on the right side - never mind the right positions - will do. And crucially, not Kane.
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