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Post by danceswithclams on Jun 25, 2024 21:35:48 GMT
Curious to know what people would have done differently. Played Foden as a 10. Taken an actual fully functioning leftback. Utilised Gordon.
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Post by Han Solo on Jun 25, 2024 21:36:02 GMT
GK Pickford
LB Walker CB Stones CB Guehi RB Alexander Arnold
DM Rice DM Mainoo or Bellingham
LW Gordon AM Foden RW Palmer
STR Kane
I’m not sure Bellingham’s beyond being dropped after the last 2 games. He looks a million miles away from being a 10. I think most people could see that Gallagher wouldn’t work and he didn’t disappoint.
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Post by superjw on Jun 25, 2024 21:36:54 GMT
Anyone else think Bellingham has been a bit anonymous since his goal in the first game? Mind you , could say the same about most of them! Also liked Wrighty's suggestion of trying Saka at left back/wing back which might allow Palmer a starting role. Got to be better than Trippier turning or passing inside every time. Jude has done the square root of fuck all since his goal
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Post by hcstokie on Jun 25, 2024 21:36:55 GMT
Curious to know what people would have done differently. See my post after the first game, and after tonight, swap Saka for Palmer. Pickford Walker Stones Guehi Trippier Rice Bellingham Palmer Foden Gordon Kane Much better balance, pace and directness. You’ve also got more guile in the no.10 position instead of trying to shoehorn Bellingham in there. For me, he’s so much better playing a little deeper, plus you get Foden in his best position.
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jun 25, 2024 21:41:17 GMT
Bloody dreadful again. What the hell is going on? Maybe a bit thick of me but perhaps a left footed on the left like Saka may have helped. He didn't do that much on the right did he? If he had played my formation and team from the start we would have won that game at a canter. Of course we would, good grief. Get your CV in fella because you're clearly wasted on here 😂 Saka isn't a LWB, I genuinely can't be arsed to go over it again.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 25, 2024 21:41:49 GMT
The biggest disappointment so far for me has been Bellingham because apart from the first half against Serbia I think he’s been very poor since
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Post by Bagwash on Jun 25, 2024 21:42:13 GMT
Curious to know what people would have done differently. Tried to win the game instead of not losing at any costs.
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Post by salopstick on Jun 25, 2024 21:46:08 GMT
No England manager had the bollocks to go for it because they fear the backlash.
We always shoehorn great players into the team just to have them as opposed to playing our best 11 in their positions. If we have two world class no 10s unfortunately one should not play.
But players are told what to do. If they deviate from managers instructions they risk getting dropped
It’s on Gareth
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 25, 2024 21:49:09 GMT
Pickford
Walker Stones Guehi Trippier
Rice Bellingham
Saka Foden Palmer
Gordon
Gordon as a false 9 based on nothing bar the tweet below and I really like the thought of that front 4 all swapping.
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Post by mtrstudent on Jun 25, 2024 21:54:01 GMT
Odds on Southgate actually playing people in their proper positions for once next game?
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Post by bigvern on Jun 25, 2024 21:54:33 GMT
Bellingham could quite possibly win the ballon dor if we win the Euros but I have loved watching Palmer play this season. The lad is special.
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Post by Pottersfan on Jun 25, 2024 21:56:39 GMT
Bellingham could quite possibly win the ballon dor if we win the Euros but I have loved watching Palmer play this season. The lad is special. Bellingham has done fuck all , a few fancy flicks and playing for fouls. Hard to drop but he looks knackered
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 25, 2024 21:57:45 GMT
Southgate seems rather negative in the press conference. Says “it’s a difficult environment” & “problems in the build up to the tournament.” A lot of this is his own doing, selected no left back at all (which is criminal), playing numerous players out of position. I think he’s got the hump and struggles to accept criticism/negativity from the fans.
Difficult environment?
He had 25,000 England fans singing their hearts out for the entire game, despite the utter turgid shit show on display in front of them and then they (apparently) had the temerity to voice their disapproval at the utter pathetic tactics served up by the manager.
People have paid huge sums of money to support the England team Mr. Southgate and it's about time you actually took some personal responsibility for the absolutely dreadful team selections that you have been making.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jun 25, 2024 21:58:30 GMT
Southgate will be gone irrespective of what happens from here.
Imagine, for a minute, that we start or season badly and sack Schuey.
We wouldn’t want Southgate would we and I imagine the same is true of many championship clubs.
This is the England manager and you’d have trouble finding a supporter of a struggling championship team that would want him.
Hes absolutely woeful and it’s a travesty that he’s in charge of this group of players
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Post by Pottersfan on Jun 25, 2024 21:59:25 GMT
Southgate seems rather negative in the press conference. Says “it’s a difficult environment” & “problems in the build up to the tournament.” A lot of this is his own doing, selected no left back at all (which is criminal), playing numerous players out of position. I think he’s got the hump and struggles to accept criticism/negativity from the fans.
Difficult environment?
He had 25,000 England fans singing their hearts out for the entire game, despite the utter turgid shit show on display in front of them and then they (apparently) had the temerity to voice their disapproval at the utter pathetic tactics served up by the manager.
People have paid huge sums of money to support the England team Mr. Southgate and it's about time you actually took some personal responsibility for the absolutely dreadful team selections that you have been making. Think the difficult environment comment was because England fans were lobbing pints at him as he was clapping them
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 25, 2024 21:59:56 GMT
Southgate will be gone irrespective of what happens from here. Imagine, for a minute, that we start or season badly and sack Schuey. We wouldn’t want Southgate would we and I imagine the same is true of many championship clubs. This is the England manager and you’d have trouble finding a supporter of a struggling championship team that would want him. Hes absolutely woeful and it’s a travesty that he’s in charge of this group of players He should have been sacked after the shit show in 2018. That was about him being risk averse and bottling it. Nothing has changed.
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Post by Pottersfan on Jun 25, 2024 22:01:01 GMT
Southgate will be gone irrespective of what happens from here. Imagine, for a minute, that we start or season badly and sack Schuey. We wouldn’t want Southgate would we and I imagine the same is true of many championship clubs. This is the England manager and you’d have trouble finding a supporter of a struggling championship team that would want him. Hes absolutely woeful and it’s a travesty that he’s in charge of this group of players Highest paid international manager as well. 5 million a year. That's 40 million he can retire on. Shit club manager as well as it happens
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 25, 2024 22:04:29 GMT
Bland unimaginative.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 25, 2024 22:08:30 GMT
Pickford
TAA Stones Guehi Walker
Mainoo Rice Bellingham
Sakha Kane Gordon
Is what I think he'll play next game......
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 25, 2024 22:08:35 GMT
Also liked Wrighty's suggestion of trying Saka at left back/wing back
Christ alive, he didn't actually suggest this did he?
And to think that the clown actually gets paid for such knowledgeable 'insight'!
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Post by starkiller on Jun 25, 2024 22:10:04 GMT
All I can hope is that Southgate is hiding his masterplan. To be unveiled when we meet one of the big teams.
Personally I'd scrap the group stages and have a knockout tournament.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 25, 2024 22:12:18 GMT
Difficult environment?
He had 25,000 England fans singing their hearts out for the entire game, despite the utter turgid shit show on display in front of them and then they (apparently) had the temerity to voice their disapproval at the utter pathetic tactics served up by the manager.
People have paid huge sums of money to support the England team Mr. Southgate and it's about time you actually took some personal responsibility for the absolutely dreadful team selections that you have been making. Think the difficult environment comment was because England fans were lobbing pints at him as he was clapping them
I'm not entirely sure that's actually any different to what I said ...
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jun 25, 2024 22:12:46 GMT
Curious to know what people would have done differently. Played Foden as a 10. Taken an actual fully functioning leftback. Utilised Gordon. I once saw Utilised Gordon support a well known band called World of Twist at a small village festival in the nineties. I came back in a pair of piss stained white pants and one flip flop with just ten pence in my bum bag. Great night though from what I can remember.
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Post by sevvy on Jun 25, 2024 22:15:56 GMT
Also liked Wrighty's suggestion of trying Saka at left back/wing back Christ alive, he didn't actually suggest this did he? And to think that the clown actually gets paid for such knowledgeable 'insight'! A couple of the pundits on the panel said it, apparently played there when he first started out for Arsenal according to them. If he was ever going to try it, tonight was the night I guess, wasn't like Trippier had to do much defending. Hopefully Shaw is back soon because the left side just looks so unbalanced otherwise
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Post by danceswithclams on Jun 25, 2024 22:19:34 GMT
Played Foden as a 10. Taken an actual fully functioning leftback. Utilised Gordon. I once saw Utilised Gordon support a well known band called World of Twist at a small village festival in the nineties. I came back in a pair of piss stained white pants and one flip flop with just ten pence in my bum bag. Great night though from what I can remember. Liking the variation and flourish people are adding to these now. My work here is done. 😅
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 25, 2024 22:21:00 GMT
Christ alive, he didn't actually suggest this did he? And to think that the clown actually gets paid for such knowledgeable 'insight'! A couple of the pundits on the panel said it, apparently played there when he first started out for Arsenal according to them. If he was ever going to try it, tonight was the night I guess, wasn't like Trippier had to do much defending. Hopefully Shaw is back soon because the left side just looks so unbalanced otherwise
Sometime I despair at how little knowledge these pundits actually have.
Southgate has already tried Saka on the left (twice) and both times he was absolutely rancid.
He's already described the experiment as a failure and there isn't a cat in hells chance (quite rightfully) that he'll be trying it again.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jun 25, 2024 22:22:27 GMT
I once saw Utilised Gordon support a well known band called World of Twist at a small village festival in the nineties. I came back in a pair of piss stained white pants and one flip flop with just ten pence in my bum bag. Great night though from what I can remember. Liking the variation and flourish people are adding to these now. My work here is done. 😅 Your work will never be done Clams until World of Twist are your support act.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 25, 2024 22:22:41 GMT
Harsh dropping Saka to fit in palmer but who else is there? Kane is probably the weakest attacker at the moment It would be deserved so far, he just kept turning back like the rest of them, Palmer was a breath of fresh air.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 25, 2024 22:24:12 GMT
I once saw Utilised Gordon support a well known band called World of Twist at a small village festival in the nineties. I came back in a pair of piss stained white pants and one flip flop with just ten pence in my bum bag. Great night though from what I can remember. Liking the variation and flourish people are adding to these now. My work here is done. 😅
Utilised Gordon were actually pulled off that tour because several local council's banned them from even taking to the stage, as their apparent 'performance art' was seen as nothing more than an excuse for gratuitous live porn.
I was lucky enough to see one of the shows and to be fair, they were probably right ...
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jun 25, 2024 22:25:03 GMT
Harsh dropping Saka to fit in palmer but who else is there? Kane is probably the weakest attacker at the moment It would be deserved so far, he just kept turning back like the rest of them, Palmer was a breath of fresh air. Palmer did very well with the time he had and I'd like to see him start on sunday.
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