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Post by Clem Fandango on Jun 24, 2024 13:21:19 GMT
If Gallagher is the answer I've no idea what question Gareth thinks he's answering.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 24, 2024 13:22:39 GMT
Gallagher is not the answer. What is he scared of here? If you don't want to play Mainoo or Wharton, don't frigging take them. Southgate is scared of his own shadow Have those two had better seasons than Gallagher? Don't think so. The manager is picking 'form' footballers, which he hasn't done in the past and has been called out for it. Listen, I wouldn't pick Gallagher in a month of Sundays and I think he'll get a red card somewhere in this tournament if he continues playing him. It's not the change I would have made.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jun 24, 2024 13:27:02 GMT
You know that I have been sticking up for Southgate but oh man, WTF? After coming out of the game on Thursday night, I was adamant that I would not go to the game on Tuesday even though I have my match ticket and all my travel booked to get into Germany tonight. Then I was 50/50 over the weekend thinking surely somethings got to change and low and behold 4 hours before I'm supposed to travel this news breaks. It's so uninspiring now. No balance, No left footers. Is he doing this on purpose now? He's been praised in the past for sticking to his guns and knowing who and what he likes. It definitely feels like he just wants to be proved right in some of the things he's done so far. Gallagher hasn't added anything but a bit of running around in the two times he's got on the pitch so far, and his quality is nowhere near some of the others in the squad who are getting splinters and wondering what they have to do to get on the pitch. It's so frustrating. Gallagher wouldn't even get into my 52 man squad.
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Post by davethebass on Jun 24, 2024 13:30:12 GMT
My Arsenal mate has just tentatively floated "Saka has played left back before" with me. That's how bad things are Thank you!! You solved my conundrum of which of the attacking players to stick at left back! I don't want Trippier there cos I want the wing backs to be more attacking than defending... Pickford Walker Stones Guehi Trent Bellingham Foden Saka Palmer Watkins Gordon Attack! Attack! Attack! Handbrake off and chucked in the skip!
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jun 24, 2024 13:35:57 GMT
I'm not really sure why the players have done what they've done either, as most people I speak to direct their dissent towards Southgate? He's a much better manager than people give him credit for, and history will look more kindly upon him than not. Detractors seem reluctant to give him any credit whatsoever. The fact is he's helped to build an England side who actually want to pull on the shirt and play with pride. We've had better teams in the past who have done far worse, often with supposedly better tacticians on the touchline. I think he’s a fantastic manager, a coach he is not.
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Post by Northy on Jun 24, 2024 13:42:30 GMT
[ Gallagher in - in the most boring change imaginable 🤣😂🤣😂 I wonder what the likes of Ivan Toney and Cole Palmer are up to outside of collecting bibs, picking up cones and playing on their PlayStation 5s? Imagine if we went on to miraculously win this thing somehow? It'd be the most stodgy tournament win ever. More Stodgy than Greece winning it?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2024 13:53:11 GMT
🤣😂🤣😂 I wonder what the likes of Ivan Toney and Cole Palmer are up to outside of collecting bibs, picking up cones and playing on their PlayStation 5s? Imagine if we went on to miraculously win this thing somehow? It'd be the most stodgy tournament win ever. More Stodgy than Greece winning it? Given the relative strengths of each squad absolutely.
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Post by adri2008 on Jun 24, 2024 13:55:45 GMT
You know that I have been sticking up for Southgate but oh man, WTF? After coming out of the game on Thursday night, I was adamant that I would not go to the game on Tuesday even though I have my match ticket and all my travel booked to get into Germany tonight. Then I was 50/50 over the weekend thinking surely somethings got to change and low and behold 4 hours before I'm supposed to travel this news breaks. It's so uninspiring now. No balance, No left footers. Is he doing this on purpose now? He's been praised in the past for sticking to his guns and knowing who and what he likes. It definitely feels like he just wants to be proved right in some of the things he's done so far. Gallagher hasn't added anything but a bit of running around in the two times he's got on the pitch so far, and his quality is nowhere near some of the others in the squad who are getting splinters and wondering what they have to do to get on the pitch. It's so frustrating. Gallagher wouldn't even get into my 52 man squad. Boring choice. I can see what Gallagher brings, he's a harasser which is useful in certain situations but you always feel he's got a badly mistimed (red card) tackle in him. I'll withhold judgement for now, if it means Rice is free to push up the field a lot more then perhaps it could work well.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jun 24, 2024 14:01:20 GMT
🤣😂🤣😂 I wonder what the likes of Ivan Toney and Cole Palmer are up to outside of collecting bibs, picking up cones and playing on their PlayStation 5s? Imagine if we went on to miraculously win this thing somehow? It'd be the most stodgy tournament win ever. More Stodgy than Greece winning it? Portugal hardly set the world alight when they won it either did they if I recall correctly?
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Post by werrington on Jun 24, 2024 14:04:38 GMT
More Stodgy than Greece winning it? Portugal hardly set the world alight when they won it either did they if I recall correctly? Finished 3rd in their group
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Post by lordb on Jun 24, 2024 15:17:29 GMT
Southgate is scared of his own shadow Have those two had better seasons than Gallagher? Don't think so. The manager is picking 'form' footballers, which he hasn't done in the past and has been called out for it. Listen, I wouldn't pick Gallagher in a month of Sundays and I think he'll get a red card somewhere in this tournament if he continues playing him. It's not the change I would have made. yes they have absolutely both better seasons
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Post by lordb on Jun 24, 2024 15:19:12 GMT
He's been praised in the past for sticking to his guns and knowing who and what he likes. It definitely feels like he just wants to be proved right in some of the things he's done so far. Gallagher hasn't added anything but a bit of running around in the two times he's got on the pitch so far, and his quality is nowhere near some of the others in the squad who are getting splinters and wondering what they have to do to get on the pitch. It's so frustrating. Gallagher wouldn't even get into my 52 man squad. Boring choice. I can see what Gallagher brings, he's a harasser which is useful in certain situations but you always feel he's got a badly mistimed (red card) tackle in him. I'll withhold judgement for now, if it means Rice is free to push up the field a lot more then perhaps it could work well. Gallagher isnt going to sit he's just going to run about
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Jun 24, 2024 15:29:38 GMT
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Post by Han Solo on Jun 24, 2024 15:29:38 GMT
Gallagher in - in the most boring change imaginable If true that’s a ridiculous but not surprising decision. I feared he’d do it when he bought him off the bench in the 2 games we’ve played so far. Decent enough footballer but he’s not a DM any more than TAA is. Southgate really doesn’t have a clue. There’s so many better options that would make us more effective. - Manoo for TAA - move Bellingham back and move Foden to the middle and bring in Palmer or Gordon in - Wharton for TAA
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Jun 24, 2024 15:33:58 GMT
Gallagher scares the shit out if me. He's a walking red card at this level.
Play Wharton as the holder with rice. Or play
Wharton Rice Bellingham
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Post by spitthedog on Jun 24, 2024 15:58:33 GMT
Gallagher scares the shit out if me. He's a walking red card at this level. Play Wharton as the holder with rice. Or play Wharton Rice Bellingham This is no defence of Gallagher, but are there any walking red cards in this tournament? The refs have seemed extremely lenient compared to the PL. Seems like you've got to literally murder someone to get a red.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 24, 2024 16:03:50 GMT
Gallagher scares the shit out if me. He's a walking red card at this level. Play Wharton as the holder with rice. Or play Wharton Rice Bellingham This is no defence of Gallagher, but are there any walking red cards in this tournament? The refs have seemed extremely lenient compared to the PL. Seems like you've got to literally murder someone to get a red. He was carded in minutes when he came on last week. It's a genuine concern.
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Jun 24, 2024 16:06:45 GMT
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Post by J-Roar on Jun 24, 2024 16:06:45 GMT
Gallagher in - in the most boring change imaginable If true that’s a ridiculous but not surprising decision. I feared he’d do it when he bought him off the bench in the 2 games we’ve played so far. Decent enough footballer but he’s not a DM any more than TAA is. Southgate really doesn’t have a clue. There’s so many better options that would make us more effective. - Manoo for TAA - move Bellingham back and move Foden to the middle and bring in Palmer or Gordon in - Wharton for TAA £5 million a year for Southgate to come up with this shite
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Jun 24, 2024 16:08:36 GMT
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Post by cdf on Jun 24, 2024 16:08:36 GMT
This is no defence of Gallagher, but are there any walking red cards in this tournament? The refs have seemed extremely lenient compared to the PL. Seems like you've got to literally murder someone to get a red. He was carded in minutes when he came on last week. It's a genuine concern. I never saw a replay because of being in the stadium at the time but not long after he got booked, he left his foot in on someone and I thought here we go, second booking for sure but the ref seemed to have missed it
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Jun 24, 2024 16:10:49 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 24, 2024 16:10:49 GMT
If you’re not going to start a player for fear of him being sent off you may as well give up. Nobody expected Beckham or Rooney to be sent off.
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Jun 24, 2024 16:12:14 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jun 24, 2024 16:12:14 GMT
If you’re not going to start a player for fear of him being sent off you may as well give up. Nobody expected Beckham or Rooney to be sent off. The nation expected Beckham to be sent off, Hoddle repeatedly said in public don't do anything stupid OK it was harsh but it was definitely stupid
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Jun 24, 2024 16:20:26 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 24, 2024 16:20:26 GMT
If you’re not going to start a player for fear of him being sent off you may as well give up. Nobody expected Beckham or Rooney to be sent off. The nation expected Beckham to be sent off, Hoddle repeatedly said in public don't do anything stupid OK it was harsh but it was definitely stupid Don’t remember that at all, too young I suppose😉
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Post by Claus_SCFC on Jun 24, 2024 16:21:05 GMT
Gallagher scares the shit out if me. He's a walking red card at this level. Play Wharton as the holder with rice. Or play Wharton Rice Bellingham This is no defence of Gallagher, but are there any walking red cards in this tournament? The refs have seemed extremely lenient compared to the PL. Seems like you've got to literally murder someone to get a red. They’ve been good so far
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Jun 24, 2024 16:22:34 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jun 24, 2024 16:22:34 GMT
The nation expected Beckham to be sent off, Hoddle repeatedly said in public don't do anything stupid OK it was harsh but it was definitely stupid Don’t remember that at all, too young I suppose😉 Fair enough was so angry with him, so predictable However he turned it all around
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Jun 24, 2024 16:24:55 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 24, 2024 16:24:55 GMT
Don’t remember that at all, too young I suppose😉 Fair enough was so angry with him, so predictable However he turned it all around It’s all a bit hazy, I was celebrating my 18th in Linekers (the sound one) in Benidorm when it all happened🤣
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Post by shakermaker on Jun 24, 2024 16:31:14 GMT
Gallagher scares the shit out if me. He's a walking red card at this level. Play Wharton as the holder with rice. Or play Wharton Rice Bellingham He's not going to throw Wharton in as our holder when he played two-thirds of the season in the Championship. For what it's worth, Gallagher mightn't be a bad call. He had a number of good games in the last 8 games of the season as one end of the holding pivot, and even popped up with a couple of goals.
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Jun 24, 2024 16:32:16 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jun 24, 2024 16:32:16 GMT
Fair enough was so angry with him, so predictable However he turned it all around It’s all a bit hazy, I was celebrating my 18th in Linekers (the sound one) in Benidorm when it all happened🤣 When you say sound isn't the brother a wrong un?
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Jun 24, 2024 16:41:57 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 24, 2024 16:41:57 GMT
It’s all a bit hazy, I was celebrating my 18th in Linekers (the sound one) in Benidorm when it all happened🤣 When you say sound isn't the brother a wrong un? What do you mean?
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Jun 24, 2024 17:04:28 GMT
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Post by cdf on Jun 24, 2024 17:04:28 GMT
It’s the leaking out of the team news the day before a game that gets me
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 24, 2024 17:06:18 GMT
I'd just start Shaw at this point, even if it's for 45 minutes and see how he gets on. We haven't got time to waste anymore.
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Jun 24, 2024 17:13:07 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jun 24, 2024 17:13:07 GMT
It’s the leaking out of the team news the day before a game that gets me Thats always happened
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