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Post by kerouac on Jun 20, 2024 18:29:37 GMT
Could you give a brief synopsis…..I had the volume down as I was watching it on my music stand during the first act of an opera…😉 pretty much what we are all saying, play foden and Bellingham where they should play and push Rice further forward because the back 4 doesn't need the protection as Stones/Guehi are a good ball players! I actually think the players are playing like they hate the system and can't be arsed! Thank you.
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Post by nonameface on Jun 20, 2024 18:29:48 GMT
Rice Bellingham and Foden in the midfield. Why would anyone want anything different? I just can’t understand. Who you playing on the left Eze or Gordon? Gordon is very busy but not sure he's got consistent quality Eze was as bad as everyone else tonight which was disappointing Never seen Palmer on the left, think he'd just cut in and we'd end up with Foden, Bellingham Palmer and Kane all bunched up Gordon probably going to offer the most natural balance And I think the price would be losing goal threat from Bellingham Either until Shaw is back in the team, though would probably go for Gordon. We need a bit more width so we can have more space in central positions. Bellingham next season will play as a midfielder for Real Madrid, rather than an attacking one. So it sort of makes sense.
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Jun 20, 2024 18:30:16 GMT
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Post by s7oke on Jun 20, 2024 18:30:16 GMT
DOG SHIT
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Post by tcdobinghoff on Jun 20, 2024 18:30:27 GMT
I'd sack him tonight. All that talent at our disposal and he has them playing like Gary fucking Rowett's most soporific Stoke side. Gerrim' gone. Can’t blame him for the players not being able to pass the ball,and consistently giving away possession.The big players didn’t perform today. Agree with that. Also another worrying aspect for me was that the players didn’t support each other - didn’t offer options to the player on the ball. Walking pace !!!
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Jun 20, 2024 18:30:51 GMT
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jun 20, 2024 18:30:51 GMT
Rice Bellingham and Foden in the midfield. Why would anyone want anything different? I just can’t understand. Who you playing on the left Eze or Gordon? Gordon is very busy but not sure he's got consistent quality Eze was as bad as everyone else tonight which was disappointing Never seen Palmer on the left, think he'd just cut in and we'd end up with Foden, Bellingham Palmer and Kane all bunched up Gordon probably going to offer the most natural balance And I think the price would be losing goal threat from Bellingham If it was down to me then Gordon. He can get in behind and knows how to finish.
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Post by spitthedog on Jun 20, 2024 18:31:25 GMT
Pickford Walker Stones Guehi Gomez Rice Saka Bellingham Foden Gordon Kane Rice does not play that role for Arsenal though? He plays in front of Partey who is the defensive midfielder.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 20, 2024 18:31:37 GMT
Kane just more or less admitted it’s tactical that they drop off And Southgate just denied it. What a shambles
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Post by kerouac on Jun 20, 2024 18:32:04 GMT
He must be rueing not taking Grealish……mind you having said that ,Palmer is quite similar and he’s not playing him.
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Jun 20, 2024 18:32:31 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 20, 2024 18:32:31 GMT
Pickford Walker Stones Guehi Gomez Rice Saka Bellingham Foden Gordon Kane Rice does not play that role for Arsenal though? He plays in front of Partey who is the defensive midfielder. I know but I’m trying to mix my thinking with what the manager might do.
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Post by kerouac on Jun 20, 2024 18:33:58 GMT
Kane just more or less admitted it’s tactical that they drop off And Southgate just denied it. What a shambles I can’t stand listening to the bollocks spiel he spouts,he’s never convinced me he’s up to the job.
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Post by lordb on Jun 20, 2024 18:34:30 GMT
Who you playing on the left Eze or Gordon? Gordon is very busy but not sure he's got consistent quality Eze was as bad as everyone else tonight which was disappointing Never seen Palmer on the left, think he'd just cut in and we'd end up with Foden, Bellingham Palmer and Kane all bunched up Gordon probably going to offer the most natural balance And I think the price would be losing goal threat from Bellingham Either until Shaw is back in the team, though would probably go for Gordon. We need a bit more width so we can have more space in central positions. Bellingham next season will play as a midfielder for Real Madrid, rather than an attacking one. So it sort of makes sense. Bellingham - despite his no show tonight - can clearly play anywhere I just think we get the most out of him by getting him in a position to score goals We can't play 4141 we'd get ripped to shreds by anyone half decent However as TAA hasn't worked and as Gallagher is shit and as Foden needs to play inside then dropping Bellingham back is the option, just find that depressing as the best teams build around their best player which we then wouldn't be doing All the same never mind who plays in what role they all need to play miles better than that
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2024 18:35:11 GMT
He’s never played there in his career so I can’t blame him really it was never going to work. He looked lost in both games. He plays there for Liverpool Shouldn't for England.
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Post by LphPotter on Jun 20, 2024 18:35:27 GMT
He’s never played there in his career so I can’t blame him really it was never going to work. He looked lost in both games. He plays there for Liverpool He doesn’t play there for Liverpool, moves in there from a right back position occasionally for them but he’s never started in a sitting 2 for them. So to throw him in there in a tournament was so naive.
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Jun 20, 2024 18:36:00 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jun 20, 2024 18:36:00 GMT
He must be rueing not taking Grealish……mind you having said that ,Palmer is quite similar and he’s not playing him. Palmer plays right and central doesn't he? But yes similar Grealish on the left would be the obvious pick right now absolutely
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Post by etebojan on Jun 20, 2024 18:36:20 GMT
Can't wait to get back to watching Stoke with Bae and Million...England can do one
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Post by fca47 on Jun 20, 2024 18:40:03 GMT
Can't stand watching England , I'd rather watch the paint dry
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Post by sportsman on Jun 20, 2024 18:40:11 GMT
What’s worrying is the players think it was ok. They keep saying it’s tournament football for you.
Can someone explain to me when people say it’s full of international players well so it citeh v Real Madrid, or even Brentford v Fulham.
Bullshit. Play like club football and stop passing sideways and backwards
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Jun 20, 2024 18:41:15 GMT
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Post by wakeypotter on Jun 20, 2024 18:41:15 GMT
Rice Bellingham and Foden in the midfield. Why would anyone want anything different? I just can’t understand. Well rice and Bellingham were garbage tonight. Thing is there’s no one else really
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Post by kerouac on Jun 20, 2024 18:41:29 GMT
He must be rueing not taking Grealish……mind you having said that ,Palmer is quite similar and he’s not playing him. Palmer plays right and central doesn't he? But yes similar Grealish on the left would be the obvious pick right now absolutely Yes,he’s on the right but I meant as an “out” ball…(sorry for using that term) They’d hold it up a bit and Jack draws fouls like no one else.
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Jun 20, 2024 18:42:39 GMT
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Post by trincostokie on Jun 20, 2024 18:42:39 GMT
Never seen a BBC pundit panel be so scathing on an England team. Have they not read the script? Could you give a brief synopsis…..I had the volume down as I was watching it on my music stand during the first act of an opera…😉 Is that you, India?
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Post by hamsta2 on Jun 20, 2024 18:43:42 GMT
Can't wait to get back to watching Stoke with Bae and Million...England can do one You know, I can see why you think that. I’ve lost interest in England weirdly enough at a time when we’ve gone further in competitions than pretty much in my lifetime ( I’m 59 soon. But looking good😂😂😂). We are always shite at some point and then there’s a spark that lifts us before inevitable disappointment. I suppose I just can’t be arsed atm 🤷♂️
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Post by apb1979 on Jun 20, 2024 18:44:26 GMT
Can’t believe Southgate has actually come out & said we are missing Kalvin Phillips
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Jun 20, 2024 18:46:00 GMT
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Post by serpico on Jun 20, 2024 18:46:00 GMT
One of the most gutless and clueless performances I have ever seen by an England side! We’re lightweight as well, we have no real men in the side! It’s poor, very poor!
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Post by Goonie on Jun 20, 2024 18:47:50 GMT
Southgate is such a fucking wet wipe Did nothing at Middlesbrough Drifted into the England set up As defensive minded as a CB and strategises like a player still shitting it after missing a crucial penalty in a knock out tournament nearly 30 years ago Don't dislike him per se but out of his depth
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jun 20, 2024 18:48:57 GMT
Can't stand watching England , I'd rather watch the paint dry The thing is we have the forward players to be the most exciting team to watch in the world. That is the worst thing about it.
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Post by wakeypotter on Jun 20, 2024 18:49:58 GMT
Can't stand watching England , I'd rather watch the paint dry Or stick pins in your eyes It’s less painful
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jun 20, 2024 18:50:08 GMT
I've been very supportive of Southgate, and I think overall he's done a fantastic job of picking us up from where we were (group stage exit & a last 16 vs Iceland in the two previous tournaments) but this is looking pretty ominous now as one tournament to many.
We need to be on the front foot, no more experimenting in midfield and we have to start stepping onto teams.
Left back we clearly have no alternative until Shaw is fit but the rest of the squad needs to be round pegs in round holes.
Pickford
TAA (for Slovenia) Stones Guehi Trips
Rice
Saka Foden Bellingham Gordon
Watkins (Kane can sit one out)
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jun 20, 2024 18:51:27 GMT
Can’t believe Southgate has actually come out & said we are missing Kalvin Phillips "We don't have a natural replacement for Kalvin Phillips" were his exact words which are a testament to how sodding clueless he is. He's only got the Premier League Player of the Year, the La Liga Player of the Year and Rice who excelled for Arsenal to pick from 🤦
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Post by collo68 on Jun 20, 2024 18:57:14 GMT
Can’t believe Southgate has actually come out & said we are missing Kalvin Phillips "We don't have a natural replacement for Kalvin Phillips" we're his exact words which are a testament to how sodding clueless he is. He's only got the Premier League Player of the Year, the La Liga Player of the Year and Rice who excelled for Arsenal to pick from 🤦 My point exactly, we can’t press cause Kalvin isn’t playing. Said he brought Gallagher on to press better but they didn’t press as a team for the whole game. Kane said we didn’t know how to do it Playing a full back in midfield for a trial in 2 games, the blokes deluded and the interviews proved it. What do they do all week
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Post by madnellie on Jun 20, 2024 18:59:45 GMT
Southgate is such a fucking wet wipe He's a wet wipe that's dried out and turned yellow.
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