|
|
England
May 29, 2022 13:45:19 GMT
via mobile
Post by Deleted on May 29, 2022 13:45:19 GMT
Dutch defence is the prob although England's not much better. Will be the reason both might just fall short for me but the Dutch a decent starting 11 if all available. Dutch defence probably better than England's although Dumfries is ordinary Dutch have very little at the other end and little squad depth so will need luck with injuries England's goal threat is massively superior, only an Anglophobe would deny that France are good all over and have lots of squad depth Yep, Dutch like I said good starting 11 but if lose one or two will be struggling. Took them as an outsider at 16-1 but don't think have quite enough. Danes gone under the radar a bit. They could face Argentina in first knockout though but are capable of beating them. |
|
|
|
Post by zommbee on Jun 1, 2022 23:06:45 GMT
Tim Vickery seems to think both Brazil and Argentina have got a real chance. Obviously Brazil always do - but Argentina look more pragmatic and potential-winnery than they have for ages according to him. 29 games unbeaten for Argentina. "Best Argentina side that Messi has been part of" Maybe Vickery has a point as they looked the part this evening in that 3-0 win over Italy, the South American qualifying group is really difficult but Brazil and Argentina qualified comfortably. |
|
|
|
England
Jun 2, 2022 13:06:41 GMT
via mobile
Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2022 13:06:41 GMT
Tim Vickery seems to think both Brazil and Argentina have got a real chance. Obviously Brazil always do - but Argentina look more pragmatic and potential-winnery than they have for ages according to him. 29 games unbeaten for Argentina. "Best Argentina side that Messi has been part of" Maybe Vickery has a point as they looked the part this evening in that 3-0 win over Italy, the South American qualifying group is really difficult but Brazil and Argentina qualified comfortably. Argentina ran Italy's defence ragged last night. Looked seriously impressive . |
|
|
|
Post by JoeinOz on Jun 2, 2022 13:09:30 GMT
Maybe Vickery has a point as they looked the part this evening in that 3-0 win over Italy, the South American qualifying group is really difficult but Brazil and Argentina qualified comfortably. Argentina ran Italy's defence ragged last night. Looked seriously impressive . There's a few Italy players who've come to the end. |
|
|
|
England
Jun 2, 2022 13:15:48 GMT
via mobile
Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2022 13:15:48 GMT
Argentina ran Italy's defence ragged last night. Looked seriously impressive . There's a few Italy players who've come to the end. Yep commentator said so last night and almost impossible to replace. Looking forward to Spain v Portugal |
|
|
|
Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 3, 2022 14:51:43 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by jebbstuart on Jun 3, 2022 15:35:01 GMT
went to The Argentina v Italy game and that was the best team performance i think i have seen. a joy to watch high and low tempo but the movement and quality of passing was excellent. Their play as a team and offer so many options going forward will be a handful for any one. Yes Italy weren't great but they still had some quality out there and were closed down so quickly and played 5 at the back with a sweeper. Argentina to win the world cup well be a good team to beat them over 90 minutes.
|
|
|
|
England
Jun 3, 2022 17:56:49 GMT
via mobile
Post by lordb on Jun 3, 2022 17:56:49 GMT
went to The Argentina v Italy game and that was the best team performance i think i have seen. a joy to watch high and low tempo but the movement and quality of passing was excellent. Their play as a team and offer so many options going forward will be a handful for any one. Yes Italy weren't great but they still had some quality out there and were closed down so quickly and played 5 at the back with a sweeper. Argentina to win the world cup well be a good team to beat them over 90 minutes. Impressive performance |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2022 18:21:59 GMT
England have no chance to win the World Cup.
|
|
|
|
Post by lordb on Jun 3, 2022 18:25:12 GMT
England have no chance to win the World Cup. Rubbish France are favourites for sure after that England have probably the best attackers out there Defence not great but apart from the Dutch (who are poor at the other end) no one does England have a chance for sure that's why football people around the world talk about England as a contender |
|
|
|
Post by adamsson on Jun 3, 2022 19:11:32 GMT
England have no chance to win the World Cup. We have a chance but we won't |
|
|
|
Post by TinkerT on Jun 3, 2022 19:42:04 GMT
England have no chance to win the World Cup. Rubbish France are favourites for sure after that England have probably the best attackers out there Defence not great but apart from the Dutch (who are poor at the other end) no one does England have a chance for sure that's why football people around the world talk about England as a contender I'd fancy us beating France to be honest. |
|
|
|
England
Jun 3, 2022 19:51:10 GMT
via mobile
Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2022 19:51:10 GMT
Of all teams have seen of late, Argentina standing out although not great at times in qualifying but were unbeaten.
|
|
|
|
England
Jun 3, 2022 22:24:22 GMT
via mobile
Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2022 22:24:22 GMT
England have no chance to win the World Cup. Rubbish France are favourites for sure after that England have probably the best attackers out there Defence not great but apart from the Dutch (who are poor at the other end) no one does England have a chance for sure that's why football people around the world talk about England as a contender They won't win it. I'll genuinely bet anyone on here ÂŁ100 if they want the wager. |
|
|
|
Post by milton58 on Jun 4, 2022 3:17:30 GMT
Rubbish France are favourites for sure after that England have probably the best attackers out there Defence not great but apart from the Dutch (who are poor at the other end) no one does England have a chance for sure that's why football people around the world talk about England as a contender They won't win it. I'll genuinely bet anyone on here ÂŁ100 if they want the wager. why have a bet with you when you can get 7/1 about England winning it.you are just offering even money. |
|
|
|
Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 5, 2022 14:53:33 GMT
Draw can’t possibly be as kind as the last two home in three weeks for me
|
|
|
|
Post by hughjarse on Jun 5, 2022 18:17:20 GMT
Current fifa world rankings for teams in England's group....
5. England
15. USA
18. Wales
21. Iran
Means f*** all I know (before anyone says) but I was surprised that all 4 were in the top 21
|
|
|
|
Post by right on Jun 5, 2022 18:21:27 GMT
Current fifa world rankings for teams in England's group.... 5. England 15. USA 18. Wales 21. Iran Means f*** all I know (before anyone says) but I was surprised that all 4 were in the top 21 Here's another metric that means f all: Players' Total Market Value: England: 1,017m USA: 190m Wales: 129m Iran: 69m can't help but laugh at the England number. Premier League inflation helps a bit |
|
|
|
Post by hughjarse on Jun 5, 2022 18:58:02 GMT
Current fifa world rankings for teams in England's group.... 5. England 15. USA 18. Wales 21. Iran Means f*** all I know (before anyone says) but I was surprised that all 4 were in the top 21 Here's another metric that means f all: Players' Total Market Value: England: 1,017m USA: 190m Wales: 129m Iran: 69m can't help but laugh at the England number. Premier League inflation helps a bit Get the point you're trying to make but can you define "players" ? |
|
|
|
Post by PotteringThrough on Jun 5, 2022 19:32:32 GMT
Current fifa world rankings for teams in England's group.... 5. England 15. USA 18. Wales 21. Iran Means f*** all I know (before anyone says) but I was surprised that all 4 were in the top 21 Must be one of the toughest groups on that basis? Iran may well be a suprisingly tough team on that basis and in the conditions, 10 men behind the ball and making us work a bit harder to get something. We should be beating all 3 though. |
|
|
|
Post by duckling on Jun 5, 2022 20:02:39 GMT
England have no chance to win the World Cup. Rubbish France are favourites for sure after that England have probably the best attackers out there Defence not great but apart from the Dutch (who are poor at the other end) no one does England have a chance for sure that's why football people around the world talk about England as a contender If the historical trend continues, France won't make it out of the group. The last 4 winners, and 5 of the last 6 winners, have gone out at the group stage at the following tournament. |
|
|
|
England
Jun 6, 2022 0:43:37 GMT
via mobile
Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 6, 2022 0:43:37 GMT
Rubbish France are favourites for sure after that England have probably the best attackers out there Defence not great but apart from the Dutch (who are poor at the other end) no one does England have a chance for sure that's why football people around the world talk about England as a contender If the historical trend continues, France won't make it out of the group. The last 4 winners, and 5 of the last 6 winners, have gone out at the group stage at the following tournament. That’s the spirit👍🏻 |
|
|
|
England
Jun 6, 2022 0:49:09 GMT
via mobile
Post by JoeinOz on Jun 6, 2022 0:49:09 GMT
Draw can’t possibly be as kind as the last two home in three weeks for me Sorry I didn't grasp that. What were you saying? |
|
|
|
Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 6, 2022 6:47:09 GMT
Draw can’t possibly be as kind as the last two home in three weeks for me Sorry I didn't grasp that. What were you saying? Apologies Weve had soft draws in the last two two tournaments and this one can't be kind surely om that basis I'd expect them to be back home pretty early |
|
|
|
Post by thevoid on Jun 6, 2022 6:52:20 GMT
Sorry I didn't grasp that. What were you saying? Apologies Weve had soft draws in the last two two tournaments and this one can't be kind surely om that basis I'd expect them to be back home pretty early Soft draws? As in Germany and then one of the form teams in Europe in the semi? |
|
|
|
England
Jun 6, 2022 6:54:03 GMT
via mobile
Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 6, 2022 6:54:03 GMT
Apologies Weve had soft draws in the last two two tournaments and this one can't be kind surely om that basis I'd expect them to be back home pretty early Soft draws? As in Germany and then one of the form teams in Europe in the semi? Germany were poor and we should beat Denmark at home semi easily. The first tough task we got to, we screwed it up. |
|
|
|
England
Jun 6, 2022 8:48:15 GMT
via mobile
Post by JoeinOz on Jun 6, 2022 8:48:15 GMT
Sorry I didn't grasp that. What were you saying? Apologies Weve had soft draws in the last two two tournaments and this one can't be kind surely om that basis I'd expect them to be back home pretty early 2021 wasn't that soft. Croatia and the Czechs are both good teams. Scotland less so but that brings different challenges. This is what I mean when I said elsewhere about anything good England do being belittled The draw for this one is manageable. Iran and the USA can cause us problems but we we should be able to handle them. |
|
|
|
England
Jun 6, 2022 9:05:43 GMT
via mobile
Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2022 9:05:43 GMT
Soft draws? As in Germany and then one of the form teams in Europe in the semi? Germany were poor and we should beat Denmark at home semi easily. The first tough task we got to, we screwed it up. Correct. Southgate bottled it in the final and his subs for the penalties were shocking. If England had a manager with a football brain then they would have won the last two tournaments. |
|
|
|
Post by thevoid on Jun 6, 2022 9:29:13 GMT
Soft draws? As in Germany and then one of the form teams in Europe in the semi? Germany were poor and we should beat Denmark at home semi easily. The first tough task we got to, we screwed it up. Why should we beat Denmark easily at home? They'd only lost about three times in the last few years, twice to Belgium and the freak loss to Finland when Eriksen collapsed. They'd also won on their last trip to Wembley. Plus I seem to recall the usual suspects assuming we'd lose to Germany. |
|
|
|
Post by JoeinOz on Jun 6, 2022 11:09:27 GMT
Germany were poor and we should beat Denmark at home semi easily. The first tough task we got to, we screwed it up. Why should we beat Denmark easily at home? They'd only lost about three times in the last few years, twice to Belgium and the freak loss to Finland when Eriksen collapsed. They'd also won on their last trip to Wembley. Plus I seem to recall the usual suspects assuming we'd lose to Germany. Look at Germany's record and look at ours. 82 and 86 they reached world cup finals with seemingly average sides. They won Euro 96 with a severely depleted team. Their standard performance is semi final. As soon as we beat them the belittlers were out saying it wasn't a great Germany side. It's Germany, they don't have to be great. And if we hadn't beaten them you know they'd have got to the final. But do we enjoy it? Do we fuck. It's a load of whining whinging history rewriting crap. |
|
