England

[thehartshillbadger]

Nov 14, 2024 20:42:51 GMT mrnovember said:

Nov 14, 2024 20:40:42 GMT lordb said:

Given Gallagher on a booking and a very fussy ref that would be the obvious sub

I'd take Jones off tbh.

The midfield has been good I think

[ChesterStokie]

Nov 14, 2024 20:37:08 GMT lordb said:

Nov 14, 2024 20:32:57 GMT ChesterStokie said:

Why does Walker keep passing the ball backwards when in good attacking positions?

Because no one is making that basic run across the defender to the near post as such Walker doesn't want to waste a cross

Bellingham just put a good ball in but Watkins was standing still

I think it's a consequence of years and years of sides playing 1 up top
In the past when 2 was the norm one striker would make that near post run with the other staying in the middle of the area or even dropping off
Now the one striker doesn't make that run because they don't want to leave no one in the midfield of the area

But if he took on his man the forwards would see it and then make the run.

And if he passes it back every time they are sure as hell not going to make the run.

And you can see it in his body language, he’s not even looking to see if the forwards are making a run.

[LphPotter]

Nov 14, 2024 20:32:57 GMT ChesterStokie said:

Why does Walker keep passing the ball backwards when in good attacking positions?

He’s unbelievably frustrating to watch on the ball

[thehartshillbadger]

Nov 14, 2024 20:46:57 GMT ChesterStokie said:

Nov 14, 2024 20:37:08 GMT lordb said:

Because no one is making that basic run across the defender to the near post as such Walker doesn't want to waste a cross

Bellingham just put a good ball in but Watkins was standing still

I think it's a consequence of years and years of sides playing 1 up top
In the past when 2 was the norm one striker would make that near post run with the other staying in the middle of the area or even dropping off
Now the one striker doesn't make that run because they don't want to leave no one in the midfield of the area

But if he took on his man the forwards would see it and then make the run.

And if he passes it back every time they are sure as hell not going to make the run.

And you can see it in his body language, he’s not even looking to see if the forwards are making a run.

He plays for Pep

[lordb]

Nov 14, 2024 20:46:57 GMT ChesterStokie said:

Nov 14, 2024 20:37:08 GMT lordb said:

Because no one is making that basic run across the defender to the near post as such Walker doesn't want to waste a cross

Bellingham just put a good ball in but Watkins was standing still

I think it's a consequence of years and years of sides playing 1 up top
In the past when 2 was the norm one striker would make that near post run with the other staying in the middle of the area or even dropping off
Now the one striker doesn't make that run because they don't want to leave no one in the midfield of the area

But if he took on his man the forwards would see it and then make the run.

And if he passes it back every time they are sure as hell not going to make the run.

And you can see it in his body language, he’s not even looking to see if the forwards are making a run.

Well the example I used was Bellingham when he did get a cross in
Watkins standing still

I really think it's a lost art for strikers, so many of them just stand still in the area

The worst ,for ,Stoke, was Afobe

[JoeinOz]

Hall on for Konsa

[thisisouryear]

Nov 14, 2024 20:44:57 GMT Northy said:

Nov 14, 2024 20:39:20 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Walker won’t be in the team/squad come 2026 will he? Not sure he should be playing.

Is he a vampire, afraid of crosses?
Must have been at least 3 opportunities in the last few minutes to whip one in, and he didn't.

He can't pass for shit, other than pace he's a terrible footballer

[lordb]

Test for Hall but linking up with his Newcastle team mate should help

[LphPotter]

Watkins link up play not quite there

[JoeinOz]

Good move

[thisisouryear]

Nov 14, 2024 20:46:39 GMT thehartshillbadger said:

Nov 14, 2024 20:42:51 GMT mrnovember said:

I'd take Jones off tbh.

The midfield has been good I think

Nice not seeing Rice in there, he's been shit lately

[JoeinOz]

Nov 14, 2024 20:37:08 GMT lordb said:

Nov 14, 2024 20:32:57 GMT ChesterStokie said:

Why does Walker keep passing the ball backwards when in good attacking positions?

Because no one is making that basic run across the defender to the near post as such Walker doesn't want to waste a cross

Bellingham just put a good ball in but Watkins was standing still

I think it's a consequence of years and years of sides playing 1 up top
In the past when 2 was the norm one striker would make that near post run with the other staying in the middle of the area or even dropping off
Now the one striker doesn't make that run because they don't want to leave no one in the midfield of the area

That short movement in the box is where we miss Harry. But the ones coming in have got to learn.

[thehartshillbadger]

Blimey Walker hasn’t lost his pace just yet judging by that foot race

[thehartshillbadger]

Nov 14, 2024 21:00:03 GMT thisisouryear said:

Nov 14, 2024 20:46:39 GMT thehartshillbadger said:

The midfield has been good I think

Nice not seeing Rice in there, he's been shit lately

He doesn’t move around the pitch like he does for Arsenal does he

[JoeinOz]

Pickford man of the match so far

[mickeythemaestro]

Nov 14, 2024 21:00:03 GMT thisisouryear said:

Nov 14, 2024 20:46:39 GMT thehartshillbadger said:

The midfield has been good I think

Nice not seeing Rice in there, he's been shit lately

I have a bayern like Kane hatred of Rice. Don't rate him at all. Well over rated in my opinion..

[JoeinOz]

Stupid foul Madueke

[thehartshillbadger]

That was a quite superb save from Pickford

[lordb]

Kane on for Watkins
I think that makes sense

Both wingers off too

Not sure about that

[thisisouryear]

Nov 14, 2024 21:07:49 GMT thehartshillbadger said:

Nov 14, 2024 21:00:03 GMT thisisouryear said:

Nice not seeing Rice in there, he's been shit lately

He doesn’t move around the pitch like he does for Arsenal does he

I just think he's shit, he's not attack minded just a drab midfielder who gives the team nothing. If you want a player to see a pass or a run he's not your man, he's a game killer

[thehartshillbadger]

Nov 14, 2024 21:15:12 GMT thisisouryear said:

Nov 14, 2024 21:07:49 GMT thehartshillbadger said:

He doesn’t move around the pitch like he does for Arsenal does he

I just think he's shit, he's not attack minded just a drab midfielder who gives the team nothing. If you want a player to see a pass or a run he's not your man, he's a game killer

Must be a “good for the dressing room” type

[thisisouryear]

Nov 14, 2024 21:09:32 GMT mickeythemaestro said:

Nov 14, 2024 21:00:03 GMT thisisouryear said:

Nice not seeing Rice in there, he's been shit lately

I have a bayern like Kane hatred of Rice. Don't rate him at all. Well over rated in my opinion..

Same, extremely overrated

[mrnovember]

We're wide open here.

[thehartshillbadger]

When Bellingham goes down it’s like he’s fallen from the top of a multi story car park. Can’t be good for his young bones

[lordb]

Nov 14, 2024 21:17:33 GMT mrnovember said:

We're wide open here.

Yes, missing Rice

[mrnovember]

Keep. The. Fucking. Ball.

[thisisouryear]

End to end now, Carsley showing his inexperience again

[PotteringThrough]

Nov 14, 2024 21:12:33 GMT lordb said:

Kane on for Watkins
I think that makes sense

Both wingers off too

Not sure about that

All 3 subs look a little lost and struggling to get into the pace of the game.

[thisisouryear]

Nov 14, 2024 21:19:17 GMT lordb said:

Nov 14, 2024 21:17:33 GMT mrnovember said:

We're wide open here.

Yes, missing Rice

I nearly said it myself but couldn't

[jimmygscfc1234]

Just a badly timed stretch tackle from Gallagher and it’s curtains!