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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 11, 2022 14:17:08 GMT
If we're saying two games trump a long period of strong form in a top side then it's pretty mad, surely? Of course it doesn't but Tomori hasn't been as good this season as last season, McGuire has been rubbish but has two good tournaments under his belt Not saying McGuire should definitely go instead of Tomori just saying it's not a stark/mad decision, not that much in it I'm not saying it's a mad decision not to take Tomori, I'm saying it's a mad decision to not take Tomori based on two games. |
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Nov 11, 2022 14:21:19 GMT
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Post by lordb on Nov 11, 2022 14:21:19 GMT
Of course it doesn't but Tomori hasn't been as good this season as last season, McGuire has been rubbish but has two good tournaments under his belt Not saying McGuire should definitely go instead of Tomori just saying it's not a stark/mad decision, not that much in it I'm not saying it's a mad decision not to take Tomori, I'm saying it's a mad decision to not take Tomori based on two games. I think I've made the point that he hasn't |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 11, 2022 14:41:49 GMT
I'm not saying it's a mad decision not to take Tomori, I'm saying it's a mad decision to not take Tomori based on two games. I think I've made the point that he hasn't I thought you were arguing that the two Chelsea games had 'done for him'? |
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Nov 11, 2022 16:06:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2022 16:06:10 GMT
Of course it doesn't but Tomori hasn't been as good this season as last season, McGuire has been rubbish but has two good tournaments under his belt Not saying McGuire should definitely go instead of Tomori just saying it's not a stark/mad decision, not that much in it I'm not saying it's a mad decision not to take Tomori, I'm saying it's a mad decision to not take Tomori based on two games. To be fair Toxic not 2 games if watched him this season. He looks more confused than Hyaduck watching The Krypton Factor trying to defend. He really isn't very good. I think the whole....he plays in Italy thing has got to many without watching him play. |
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Nov 11, 2022 16:12:48 GMT
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Post by lordb on Nov 11, 2022 16:12:48 GMT
I think I've made the point that he hasn't I thought you were arguing that the two Chelsea games had 'done for him'? No just that tgey were an opportunity not taken Given the lack of quality in our central defenders these things add up Maybe the next England manager will give Tomori a go or maybe other players like Dunk Suspect whoever it is will turn to the same players as Southgate in the main |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 11, 2022 16:14:46 GMT
I'm not saying it's a mad decision not to take Tomori, I'm saying it's a mad decision to not take Tomori based on two games. To be fair Toxic not 2 games if watched him this season. He looks more confused than Hyaduck watching The Krypton Factor trying to defend. He really isn't very good. I think the whole....he plays in Italy thing has got to many without watching him play. Still think winning the league in Italy is a tough gig though and he was worth a look. As said, don't have a problem with him not going if he's not in form, it was the suggestion that he wasn't going on the strength of two dodgy games that I struck me as a poor show. Southgate seems weirdly Richard Keys about other leagues, though he's finally warming up to Bellingham at least. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 11, 2022 16:16:16 GMT
I thought you were arguing that the two Chelsea games had 'done for him'? No just that tgey were an opportunity not taken Given the lack of quality in our central defenders these things add up Maybe the next England manager will give Tomori a go or maybe other players like Dunk Suspect whoever it is will turn to the same players as Southgate in the main Suspect that's true. If Walker isn't fit though our back line looks fairly one paced. Shouldn't be an issue in the groups but likely to be after that. |
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Nov 11, 2022 16:33:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2022 16:33:31 GMT
To be fair Toxic not 2 games if watched him this season. He looks more confused than Hyaduck watching The Krypton Factor trying to defend. He really isn't very good. I think the whole....he plays in Italy thing has got to many without watching him play. Still think winning the league in Italy is a tough gig though and he was worth a look. As said, don't have a problem with him not going if he's not in form, it was the suggestion that he wasn't going on the strength of two dodgy games that I struck me as a poor show. Southgate seems weirdly Richard Keys about other leagues, though he's finally warming up to Bellingham at least. Yes and no Dier for me came in on the back of Sporting Lisbon. I think he's a decent enough player and gets unfair stick. Sancho I really don't and never did get the fuss over. Makes Nathan Redmond look top quality in that position. Another player with a reputation abroad and massive price tag that had him hailed as this new top class player but performed in Germany v some ok opposition. Had moments but see nothing about him and rightly dropped . |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 11, 2022 16:49:18 GMT
Still think winning the league in Italy is a tough gig though and he was worth a look. As said, don't have a problem with him not going if he's not in form, it was the suggestion that he wasn't going on the strength of two dodgy games that I struck me as a poor show. Southgate seems weirdly Richard Keys about other leagues, though he's finally warming up to Bellingham at least. Yes and no Dier for me came in on the back of Sporting Lisbon. I think he's a decent enough player and gets unfair stick. Sancho I really don't and never did get the fuss over. Makes Nathan Redmond look top quality in that position. Another player with a reputation abroad and massive price tag that had him hailed as this new top class player but performed in Germany v some ok opposition. Had moments but see nothing about him and rightly dropped . Agree completely about Sancho. Has been nigh on diabolical at Man U. Dier a weird one, seems to be either really good or really bad. Form had improved under Conte but seems to have dipped again. Southgate bringing him on against Colombia nearly cost us the game he was that bad and then his pen won it. |
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Nov 11, 2022 16:49:41 GMT
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Post by lordb on Nov 11, 2022 16:49:41 GMT
No just that tgey were an opportunity not taken Given the lack of quality in our central defenders these things add up Maybe the next England manager will give Tomori a go or maybe other players like Dunk Suspect whoever it is will turn to the same players as Southgate in the main Suspect that's true. If Walker isn't fit though our back line looks fairly one paced. Shouldn't be an issue in the groups but likely to be after that. I think Walker dictates whether we play wing backs or back 4 Can't see a back 3 without Walker in it myself He might go with a back 4 for the group games anyway Sterling being absolutely out of form really concerns me |
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Nov 11, 2022 16:56:44 GMT
Rashford and Foden either side of Kane. Rice, Bellingham and whoever in a midfield 3.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2022 17:05:06 GMT
Yes and no Dier for me came in on the back of Sporting Lisbon. I think he's a decent enough player and gets unfair stick. Sancho I really don't and never did get the fuss over. Makes Nathan Redmond look top quality in that position. Another player with a reputation abroad and massive price tag that had him hailed as this new top class player but performed in Germany v some ok opposition. Had moments but see nothing about him and rightly dropped . Agree completely about Sancho. Has been nigh on diabolical at Man U. Dier a weird one, seems to be either really good or really bad. Form had improved under Conte but seems to have dipped again. Southgate bringing him on against Colombia nearly cost us the game he was that bad and then his pen won it. Dier was a David O'Leary moment in Genoa v Romania . Like the movie The Van I was one in the stadium saying ...who is letting him take one? Calm as you like. Wilson similar v Chelsea for us, never in doubt. |
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Nov 12, 2022 15:25:30 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 12, 2022 15:25:30 GMT
Maddison off injured
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 12, 2022 15:27:57 GMT
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 12, 2022 15:58:55 GMT
Doesn't look good for him. |
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Nov 12, 2022 18:34:35 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 12, 2022 18:34:35 GMT
Doesn't look good for him. He was never playing anyway, no point worrying about it |
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Nov 12, 2022 18:50:43 GMT
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Post by lordb on Nov 12, 2022 18:50:43 GMT
Doesn't look good for him. Rodgers says he's fine |
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Nov 12, 2022 18:53:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2022 18:53:16 GMT
Doesn't look good for him. Rodgers says he's fine Is he in the squad...not seen it to be honest,? Just heard commentator say Toney isn't during today's game |
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 14, 2022 19:05:15 GMT
For squad number fans....  |
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Nov 14, 2022 19:08:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2022 19:08:57 GMT
Have the players but not the manager when they meet quality opposition. I have them to play the Dutch quite early on and think could be curtains.
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Post by Gods on Nov 14, 2022 19:09:30 GMT
For squad number fans.... I've never heard of most of them 😆 |
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 14, 2022 19:19:27 GMT
Have the players but not the manager when they meet quality opposition. I have them to play the Dutch quite early on and think could be curtains. In what way are Holland better than us? |
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Nov 14, 2022 19:21:12 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 14, 2022 19:21:12 GMT
Have the players but not the manager when they meet quality opposition. I have them to play the Dutch quite early on and think could be curtains. In what way are Holland better than us? There’s literally zero proof they are. I’d certainly fancy us against them. We’re by no means world beaters at the mo bit their squad is shite (on paper at least) |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 14, 2022 19:35:38 GMT
It's bizarre that this starts on Saturday and hardly anyone appears to give much of a shit!
I guess it'll pick up once the matches start being shown and especially if England progress to the business end, but if they don't I wonder how many will lose interest quite rapidly. Probably quite a few. At the moment it just doesn't feel like it has the same degree of 'specialness' that a World Cup normally has.
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Nov 14, 2022 19:38:01 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 14, 2022 19:38:01 GMT
It's bizarre that this starts on Saturday and hardly anyone appears to give much of a shit! I guess it'll pick up once the matches start being shown and especially if England progress to the business end, but if they don't I wonder how many will lose interest quite rapidly. Probably quite a few. At the moment it just doesn't feel like it has the same degree of 'specialness' that a World Cup normally has. At least we don’t have to watch that fucking shite for a month! |
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Nov 14, 2022 19:53:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2022 19:53:16 GMT
Have the players but not the manager when they meet quality opposition. I have them to play the Dutch quite early on and think could be curtains. In what way are Holland better than us? At football |
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 15, 2022 20:31:07 GMT
Just done the old predictor just to see who's lined up to play who - and if it goes with the bookies (which it never does, obviously) the QFs look very tasty. But all it takes is one unexpected result, and the whole thing is turned on its head www.bein.com/predict/en/Last 16Netherlands-USA Argentina-Denmark England-Senegal France-Mexico Spain-Croatia Brazil-Uruguay Belgium-Germany Portugal-Switzerland Q-FNetherlands-Argentina England-France Spain-Brazil Germany-Portugal |
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Nov 15, 2022 23:02:59 GMT
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Nov 15, 2022 23:02:59 GMT
So, Argentina or France, depending on whether we finish first or second?
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Nov 16, 2022 10:15:29 GMT
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Post by PotteringThrough on Nov 16, 2022 10:15:29 GMT
It's bizarre that this starts on Saturday and hardly anyone appears to give much of a shit! I guess it'll pick up once the matches start being shown and especially if England progress to the business end, but if they don't I wonder how many will lose interest quite rapidly. Probably quite a few. At the moment it just doesn't feel like it has the same degree of 'specialness' that a World Cup normally has. I thought it was Sunday, shows my high levels of interest… |
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Nov 16, 2022 14:06:44 GMT
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Post by lordb on Nov 16, 2022 14:06:44 GMT
Just done the old predictor just to see who's lined up to play who - and if it goes with the bookies (which it never does, obviously) the QFs look very tasty. But all it takes is one unexpected result, and the whole thing is turned on its head www.bein.com/predict/en/Last 16Netherlands-USA Argentina-Denmark England-Senegal France-Mexico Spain-Croatia Brazil-Uruguay Belgium-Germany Portugal-Switzerland Q-FNetherlands-Argentina England-France Spain-Brazil Germany-Portugal I think there will be more 'upsets' in the group stages than usual Would expect a good number of those projected fixtures not to happen |
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