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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 10, 2022 17:04:37 GMT
Is he playing well? (I've not watched much of anyone outside the big games). And Phillips is more defensive which is the cover we need. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 10, 2022 17:09:50 GMT
Is he playing well? (I've not watched much of anyone outside the big games). And Phillips is more defensive which is the cover we need. He's playing better than Phillips. Could have tried Longstaff as well. Anyway do we need another defensive mid with Henderson and Rice in the squad? And Dire at a push? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 10, 2022 17:14:44 GMT
Is he playing well? (I've not watched much of anyone outside the big games). And Phillips is more defensive which is the cover we need. He's playing better than Phillips. Could have tried Longstaff as well. Anyway do we need another defensive mid with Henderson and Rice in the squad? And Dire at a push? I think Phillips is one who it doesn't matter if he's been playing or not tbh. We have such a lack of quality central midfielders especially more defensive ones. Yes, Henderson is shit and really shouldn't be going  |
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Nov 10, 2022 17:22:25 GMT
Will he play a back 4 or 5?
I'd favour a 4 but think he'll go with 5.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 10, 2022 17:23:34 GMT
He's playing better than Phillips. Could have tried Longstaff as well. Anyway do we need another defensive mid with Henderson and Rice in the squad? And Dire at a push? I think Phillips is one who it doesn't matter if he's been playing or not tbh. We have such a lack of quality central midfielders especially more defensive ones. Yes, Henderson is shit and really shouldn't be going Can't disagree with you re Henderson he really is gash. It just makes me laugh that when he came in Southgate said he wasn't going to have favourites and he was only going to pick players who were playing regularly and were in form. And so we get Walker, Maguire, Stones, Phillips, Gallagher and Grealish. None of whom are regulars for their club or who could be described as 'In form'. No big club favouritism there Gareth hey? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 10, 2022 17:29:05 GMT
I think Phillips is one who it doesn't matter if he's been playing or not tbh. We have such a lack of quality central midfielders especially more defensive ones. Yes, Henderson is shit and really shouldn't be going Can't disagree with you re Henderson he really is gash. It just makes me laugh that when he came in Southgate said he wasn't going to have favourites and he was only going to pick players who were playing regularly and were in form. And so we get Walker, Maguire, Stones, Phillips, Gallagher and Grealish. None of whom are regulars for their club or who could be described as 'In form'. No big club favouritism there Gareth hey? He did and it was always daft. I agree the sentiment absolutely but practically it just doesn't work. I think you have to show some level of flexibility. I think Walker makes sense. Argument he's one of the best full backs in world football in the last 2/3 years. Stones is in and out of one of the best sides in the world so that's fair. Phillips a bloody good DM. Grealish is the one for me that's lucky. I'm not a big anyway so that skews my view absolutely but even when he's played this season he's been really poor. Foden and Rashford much better form on the left. But his fans would argue he wins fouls, has done well for England and that alone should be enough. I think they have a point, I just disagree overall because I don't really think he's that good. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 10, 2022 17:32:51 GMT
Can't disagree with you re Henderson he really is gash. It just makes me laugh that when he came in Southgate said he wasn't going to have favourites and he was only going to pick players who were playing regularly and were in form. And so we get Walker, Maguire, Stones, Phillips, Gallagher and Grealish. None of whom are regulars for their club or who could be described as 'In form'. No big club favouritism there Gareth hey? He did and it was always daft. I agree the sentiment absolutely but practically it just doesn't work. I think you have to show some level of flexibility. I think Walker makes sense. Argument he's one of the best full backs in world football in the last 2/3 years. Stones is in and out of one of the best sides in the world so that's fair. Phillips a bloody good DM. Grealish is the one for me that's lucky. I'm not a big anyway so that skews my view absolutely but even when he's played this season he's been really poor. Foden and Rashford much better form on the left. But his fans would argue he wins fouls, has done well for England and that alone should be enough. I think they have a point, I just disagree overall because I don't really think he's that good. It was a daft thing to come out with and backed himself into a corner. Set himself up for a shoeing when he does something like this. |
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Post by pieofpeter on Nov 10, 2022 20:49:24 GMT
I don't get why Coady would be in. He's such a basic centre back. Tomori adds pace and skill as an option. Quite bizarre. Jobbing CH over a bloke playing consistently well for the Italian Champions. Southgate has his favourites for sure. Agree with this and Abraham should be there as well. |
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Nov 10, 2022 20:51:23 GMT
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Post by pieofpeter on Nov 10, 2022 20:51:23 GMT
Could put out 2 teams and win it and that's with missing their best goal keeper. Mike Maignan of Ac Milan one of the best keepers in the world atm. Despite that won't be a shock if they go home early Very true but also its normally France that beats France imo. |
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Nov 10, 2022 20:53:21 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2022 20:53:21 GMT
I wonder if some watch Italian football and have seen Tomori play. The bloke is an absolute liability
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 10, 2022 21:02:56 GMT
Lane, Rashford and Wilson as strikers? Larry Lane? I loved Sensible Soccer😉 |
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Nov 10, 2022 21:06:31 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 10, 2022 21:06:31 GMT
How does he justify picking Phillips who has played less than 20 minutes of football in 3 substitute appearances for Man City this season and not at all since the middle of September? He justified it by saying there was no one else. |
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Nov 10, 2022 21:08:53 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 10, 2022 21:08:53 GMT
Quite bizarre. Jobbing CH over a bloke playing consistently well for the Italian Champions. Southgate has his favourites for sure. Agree with this and Abraham should be there as well. He’s in wretched form this season. Wilson deserves his place |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 10, 2022 21:11:58 GMT
How does he justify picking Phillips who has played less than 20 minutes of football in 3 substitute appearances for Man City this season and not at all since the middle of September? He justified it by saying there was no one else. He's a bigger tit than he looks then. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 10, 2022 21:13:56 GMT
He justified it by saying there was no one else. He's a bigger tit than he looks then. I have very little qualms with the squad overall. It’s the way he sets his team up which is the most frustrating part. We are capable of going far, let’s see. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 10, 2022 21:15:07 GMT
I'd have took Tomey. He adds things.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Nov 10, 2022 21:51:31 GMT
I'd have took Tomey. He adds things. He’s got this betting stuff hanging over his head and Southgate gave him no game time in the last round of games. Once that happened he was never going. |
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Nov 10, 2022 21:53:01 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 10, 2022 21:53:01 GMT
I'd have took Tomey. He adds things. He’s got this betting stuff hanging over his head and Southgate gave him no game time in the last round of games. Once that happened he was never going. Good point, he’s got form for being a wrong un. Shame as I think he has much to offer |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Nov 10, 2022 21:59:59 GMT
Good god this lad has had some bad luck/injuries Very unlucky. Has made the step up to the prem quite easily and looks a natural. Hope he gets fully fit after this set back. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 10, 2022 22:02:24 GMT
I'd have took Tomey. He adds things. Betting tips? |
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Nov 10, 2022 22:03:08 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 10, 2022 22:03:08 GMT
I'd have took Tomey. He adds things. He’s got this betting stuff hanging over his head and Southgate gave him no game time in the last round of games. Once that happened he was never going. Yeah that didn't help. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2022 10:25:28 GMT
It's been mentioned before , but Southgate's blanking of tomori is weird .
Signed a new contract in August 2022 ,on more money but contracting him to AC Milan till 2027 , and regularly praised in the Italian media by old boys Franco baresi and Paulo maldini .
Does Southgate genuinely belief Harry Maguire could get a game at AC Milan?
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Post by lordb on Nov 11, 2022 10:51:31 GMT
It's been mentioned before , but Southgate's blanking of tomori is weird . Signed a new contract in August 2022 ,on more money but contracting him to AC Milan till 2027 , and regularly praised in the Italian media by old boys Franco baresi and Paulo maldini . Does Southgate genuinely belief Harry Maguire could get a game at AC Milan? Understand what you are saying but Tomori had back to back shockers v Chelsea which has probably done for him |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 11, 2022 10:52:22 GMT
It's been mentioned before , but Southgate's blanking of tomori is weird . Signed a new contract in August 2022 ,on more money but contracting him to AC Milan till 2027 , and regularly praised in the Italian media by old boys Franco baresi and Paulo maldini . Does Southgate genuinely belief Harry Maguire could get a game at AC Milan? Understand what you are saying but Tomori had back to back shockers v Chelsea which has probably done for him That's absolutely mental if so and doesn't speak well of Southgate. |
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Post by Northy on Nov 11, 2022 11:58:45 GMT
It's been mentioned before , but Southgate's blanking of tomori is weird . Signed a new contract in August 2022 ,on more money but contracting him to AC Milan till 2027 , and regularly praised in the Italian media by old boys Franco baresi and Paulo maldini . Does Southgate genuinely belief Harry Maguire could get a game at AC Milan? I've seen Tomori in a few games this season, seems to have gone off the boil a bit and a few mistakes in there, one game he was quite poor and somebody quoted along the lines of 'he makes Titus Bramble look competent' |
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 11, 2022 12:17:36 GMT
   No De Gea or Thiago for Spain And Senegal have named Mane despite injury |
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Post by lordb on Nov 11, 2022 13:07:54 GMT
Understand what you are saying but Tomori had back to back shockers v Chelsea which has probably done for him That's absolutely mental if so and doesn't speak well of Southgate. Is it? Entirely mental? Player has opportunity to impress and fails Don’t want to go to strong on it given the defenders he has picked but he wasn't a shoe in was he |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 11, 2022 13:18:16 GMT
That's absolutely mental if so and doesn't speak well of Southgate. Is it? Entirely mental? Player has opportunity to impress and fails Don’t want to go to strong on it given the defenders he has picked but he wasn't a shoe in was he If we're saying two games trump a long period of strong form in a top side then it's pretty mad, surely? |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Nov 11, 2022 13:32:48 GMT
I'm so gutted I'll be working during the opening game of the World Cup, I've always wanted to watch Qatar and Ecuador lock horns on the biggest stage.. shame.
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Nov 11, 2022 14:04:55 GMT
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Post by lordb on Nov 11, 2022 14:04:55 GMT
Is it? Entirely mental? Player has opportunity to impress and fails Don’t want to go to strong on it given the defenders he has picked but he wasn't a shoe in was he If we're saying two games trump a long period of strong form in a top side then it's pretty mad, surely? Of course it doesn't but Tomori hasn't been as good this season as last season, McGuire has been rubbish but has two good tournaments under his belt Not saying McGuire should definitely go instead of Tomori just saying it's not a stark/mad decision, not that much in it |
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