England

[lordb]

Nov 10, 2022 13:21:09 GMT @cvillestokie said:

Nov 9, 2022 19:52:58 GMT FullerMagic said:

France have only bothered naming 25

I wonder how well-liked Benzema is in that group. He obviously isn’t liked by Giroud and he’s been convicted of blackmailing a former international teammate. Guy seems like a piece of crap to be honest.

Indeed
France have the best squad but not hard to see issues off the field translating to the pitch

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Nov 10, 2022 13:21:27 GMT The Toxic Avenger said:

Nov 10, 2022 13:16:21 GMT @cvillestokie said:

Has done really well for Newcastle. However, it does remind me of the days when Darius Vassell would get a call up.

Vassell was pretty good for England tbf.

See no issue with calling up players in form for tournaments. Momentum is important.

I do agree, r.e. form. I just think it’s a shame that the players that are in-form aren’t better.

I didn’t mind Vassell, but I wouldn’t have been inspired to rely on him in the big games. Wilson is fine, but I don’t see him spearheading an attack when the time comes. If Kane gets injured, we won’t make it past the group.

[lordb]

Nov 10, 2022 13:32:15 GMT @cvillestokie said:

Nov 10, 2022 13:21:27 GMT The Toxic Avenger said:

Vassell was pretty good for England tbf.

See no issue with calling up players in form for tournaments. Momentum is important.

I do agree, r.e. form. I just think it’s a shame that the players that are in-form aren’t better.

I didn’t mind Vassell, but I wouldn’t have been inspired to rely on him in the big games. Wilson is fine, but I don’t see him spearheading an attack when the time comes. If Kane gets injured, we won’t make it past the group.

That's OTT as it's a weak group

[jimmygscfc1234]

I don't get why Coady would be in. He's such a basic centre back. Tomori adds pace and skill as an option.

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Nov 10, 2022 13:34:21 GMT lordb said:

Nov 10, 2022 13:32:15 GMT @cvillestokie said:

I do agree, r.e. form. I just think it’s a shame that the players that are in-form aren’t better.

I didn’t mind Vassell, but I wouldn’t have been inspired to rely on him in the big games. Wilson is fine, but I don’t see him spearheading an attack when the time comes. If Kane gets injured, we won’t make it past the group.

That's OTT as it's a weak group

It is a weak group, I agree. However, there’s limited creativity in that midfield and the defence/goalkeepers don’t fill me with an awful lot of confidence.

I don’t see why the US and Wales couldn’t nick an early goal and sit back, waiting for us to bore them to death.

I just don’t understand why we regularly miss out on creating a central midfielder who can break down defences given that we are a densely populated nation that seemingly loves the sport.

[Pugsley]

Nov 10, 2022 13:44:12 GMT jimmygscfc1234 said:

I don't get why Coady would be in. He's such a basic centre back. Tomori adds pace and skill as an option.

Quite bizarre.  Jobbing CH over a bloke playing consistently well for the Italian Champions.

Southgate has his favourites for sure.

[The Toxic Avenger]

Nov 10, 2022 13:34:21 GMT lordb said:

Nov 10, 2022 13:32:15 GMT @cvillestokie said:

I do agree, r.e. form. I just think it’s a shame that the players that are in-form aren’t better.

I didn’t mind Vassell, but I wouldn’t have been inspired to rely on him in the big games. Wilson is fine, but I don’t see him spearheading an attack when the time comes. If Kane gets injured, we won’t make it past the group.

That's OTT as it's a weak group

Think Iran might surprise a few.

[FullerMagic]

Looks to be 25 leaked now- with one place for Mings, Loftus-Cheek or Gallagher.

[The Toxic Avenger]

Nov 10, 2022 13:32:15 GMT @cvillestokie said:

Nov 10, 2022 13:21:27 GMT The Toxic Avenger said:

Vassell was pretty good for England tbf.

See no issue with calling up players in form for tournaments. Momentum is important.

I do agree, r.e. form. I just think it’s a shame that the players that are in-form aren’t better.

I didn’t mind Vassell, but I wouldn’t have been inspired to rely on him in the big games. Wilson is fine, but I don’t see him spearheading an attack when the time comes. If Kane gets injured, we won’t make it past the group.

Could be a Schillaci type, just hitting his stride at the right time.

[prestwichpotter]

Nov 10, 2022 13:48:46 GMT The Toxic Avenger said:

Nov 10, 2022 13:34:21 GMT lordb said:

That's OTT as it's a weak group

Think Iran might surprise a few.

Really strong defensively, Carlos Queiroz has got them really well drilled I think you're right.......

[crouchpotato1]

Looks like Madison is quite rightly in on form

[FullerMagic]

Gallagher looks to be the last man

[FullerMagic]

So looks like:

Pickford Ramsdale Pope
Trippier TAA Walker
Shaw
Dier Stones Maguire Coady White
Rice Bellingham Henderson Phillips Gallagher
Sterling Foden Grealish Mount Saka Maddison
Kane Rashford Wilson

[FullerMagic]

[bayernoatcake]

Nov 10, 2022 13:59:28 GMT FullerMagic said:

So looks like:

Pickford Ramsdale Pope
Trippier TAA Walker
Shaw
Dier Stones Maguire Coady White
Rice Bellingham Henderson Phillips Gallagher
Sterling Foden Grealish Mount Saka Maddison
Kane Rashford Wilson

Pretty fair that.

Don't get Coady for Tomori and I'm an RLC fan but can see why Gallagher could get the nod.

Wilson is better than Toney so pleased with that.

[cheadlepotter]

I’d have had Tomori, Smalling and Abraham for Coady, Maguire and Gallagher but it’s not too bad. Just a shame Southgate will focus on defence when we’ve got so much quality up top.

[Robo10]

Dont think Tomori did himself any favours getting sent off / riled up when AC played Chelsea - was easily annoyed, lost his rag, made rash tackles

Press asking Gareth stupid questions about Maguire playing up front, Maddisons phone reaction, LGBT/Iran now - ffs - the media are boring twats

[crouchpotato1]

Good god this lad has had some bad luck/injuries

[Robo10]

Nov 10, 2022 14:10:08 GMT cheadlepotter said:

I’d have had Tomori, Smalling and Abraham for Coady, Maguire and Gallagher but it’s not too bad. Just a shame Southgate will focus on defence when we’ve got so much quality up top.

Smalling is a really interesting one - in the form of his life, scores goals, not even mentioned in dispatches.

I would have taken him over Coady all day, and I dont mind Coady at all.

[lordb]

Nov 10, 2022 13:45:14 GMT @cvillestokie said:

Nov 10, 2022 13:34:21 GMT lordb said:

That's OTT as it's a weak group

It is a weak group, I agree. However, there’s limited creativity in that midfield and the defence/goalkeepers don’t fill me with an awful lot of confidence.

I don’t see why the US and Wales couldn’t nick an early goal and sit back, waiting for us to bore them to death.

I just don’t understand why we regularly miss out on creating a central midfielder who can break down defences given that we are a densely populated nation that seemingly loves the sport.

USA are unlikely to get a clean sheet v England
we will win the group

[shakermaker]

Nov 10, 2022 14:30:27 GMT crouchpotato1 said:

Good god this lad has had some bad luck/injuries

I wonder if he'll be lying in theatre as he goes under the knife again wondering "If only I'd gone to Stoke".

[lordb]

Nov 10, 2022 14:31:31 GMT Robo10 said:

Nov 10, 2022 14:10:08 GMT cheadlepotter said:

I’d have had Tomori, Smalling and Abraham for Coady, Maguire and Gallagher but it’s not too bad. Just a shame Southgate will focus on defence when we’ve got so much quality up top.

Smalling is a really interesting one - in the form of his life, scores goals, not even mentioned in dispatches.

I would have taken him over Coady all day, and I dont mind Coady at all.

Known as Smalldini in Italy (no really)

[jimmygscfc1234]

Connor Gallagher must be in Dreamland. Coady nowhere near international quality but probably in for his good character!

[Laughing Gravy]

How does he justify picking Phillips who has played less than 20 minutes of football in 3 substitute appearances for Man City this season and not at all since the middle of September?

[bayernoatcake]

Nov 10, 2022 15:21:12 GMT Laughing Gravy said:

How does he justify picking Phillips who has played less than 20 minutes of football in 3 substitute appearances for Man City this season and not at all since the middle of September?

Who else is there?

[crouchpotato1]

[wakefieldstokie]

Nov 10, 2022 15:24:57 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Nov 10, 2022 15:21:12 GMT Laughing Gravy said:

How does he justify picking Phillips who has played less than 20 minutes of football in 3 substitute appearances for Man City this season and not at all since the middle of September?

Who else is there?

Lewis Baker😎 😳

[lordb]

Nov 10, 2022 15:21:12 GMT Laughing Gravy said:

How does he justify picking Phillips who has played less than 20 minutes of football in 3 substitute appearances for Man City this season and not at all since the middle of September?

His outstanding form in the Euros
However I agree he's been out a long time, rather Ward Prowse

[xchpotter]

Nov 10, 2022 14:10:08 GMT cheadlepotter said:

I’d have had Tomori, Smalling and Abraham for Coady, Maguire and Gallagher but it’s not too bad. Just a shame Southgate will focus on defence when we’ve got so much quality up top.

I must confess to never hearing about Tomori…..I’ve had to look him up I’m sorry to say. I used to think I was pretty up on football things but these days I’ve no interest in England until major tournaments and little interest beyond Stoke and the league they’ve are in. I am genuinely shocked not to have heard of him

[Laughing Gravy]

Nov 10, 2022 15:24:57 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Nov 10, 2022 15:21:12 GMT Laughing Gravy said:

How does he justify picking Phillips who has played less than 20 minutes of football in 3 substitute appearances for Man City this season and not at all since the middle of September?

Who else is there?

Ward Prowse?