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Post by wakeypotter on Jun 27, 2022 19:32:09 GMT
Can see Sawyers being announced now after TOB leaving. With space still in midfield for an out and out DM I can’t imagine that TOB cost even a fifth of what Sawyers would though. If he’s happy to take second choice to Powell, second choice to Baker and a contract that would reflect that role, I’d be happy to have him back. Why? Is Powell undropable. He has plenty of poor games
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Post by wakeypotter on Jun 27, 2022 19:36:38 GMT
No one can say owt derogatory about Powell on ere didn’t you know. There's very little derogatory to say about him. When he’s good he’s good When he isn’t god he’s awful Can’t see loads of clubs queuing up for this superstar with only 1 year left on his contract. Should be a bargain for someone as he’s a world beater
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Post by march4 on Jun 27, 2022 19:57:09 GMT
Surely we saw enough of Sawyers last season to end our interest.
Our play was slow enough without him ambling around the middle of the pitch.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jun 27, 2022 20:05:55 GMT
I can’t imagine that TOB cost even a fifth of what Sawyers would though. If he’s happy to take second choice to Powell, second choice to Baker and a contract that would reflect that role, I’d be happy to have him back. Why? Is Powell undropable. He has plenty of poor games Whether he does or not, (which he doesn’t really) Sawyers was poor for much of the time he was here. It’s possible he could do well in a 10 role, but there’s no guarantee. Powell not only brings ability on the ball (which Sawyers also has), but an aerial presence and work rate for the high press that would be missing if we used Sawyers there.
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Post by StokieNath on Jun 27, 2022 20:11:47 GMT
Personally and in my honest opinion I think Sawyers is a much better footballer than Baker or Allen
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Post by StokieNath on Jun 27, 2022 20:12:56 GMT
Baker should play slightly ahead of him with Powell in front, I’m guessing Laurent will be sawyers replacement.
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Post by Ron on Jun 27, 2022 20:14:18 GMT
I would rather not bother wasting valuable cash on a player that has hardly earned a permanent move after his loan. Neat and tidy on the ball yes but he hasn’t the energy or presence required for me. We are well stocked in midfield and the priories should lie elsewhere. We are desperate for 2 more forward players , a keeper, and cover at wing back/ full back.
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Post by wakeypotter on Jun 27, 2022 20:17:44 GMT
Why? Is Powell undropable. He has plenty of poor games Whether he does or not, (which he doesn’t really) Sawyers was poor for much of the time he was here. It’s possible he could do well in a 10 role, but there’s no guarantee. Powell not only brings ability on the ball (which Sawyers also has), but an aerial presence and work rate for the high press that would be missing if we used Sawyers there. Mon didn’t plays sawyers in the right position though. Played as a number 10 he would be better suited. Granted he hasn’t got the Powells ability in the air and work rate but he’s just as good on the ball if not better. Let’s face it Powell could be off when his contract expires so nothing wrong with getting a replacement for him and for when he gets injured
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 27, 2022 20:28:48 GMT
There's very little derogatory to say about him. When he’s good he’s good When he isn’t god he’s awful Can’t see loads of clubs queuing up for this superstar with only 1 year left on his contract. Should be a bargain for someone as he’s a world beater Thankfully he's more often good than not. World beater he may not be but he's one of the best in his position in the league and our best forward player. I can see a lot of teams being in for him if he was to leave on a free.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jun 27, 2022 20:45:49 GMT
I would definitely sign him. With the right midfielders around him he'll boss and game at this level. When he struggled last season it was in an unbalanced Midfield with no one covering him
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Post by J-Roar on Jun 27, 2022 20:47:03 GMT
You did jump on my post and claimed it was me who didn't think Powell wasn't attractive in the transfer market when I said nothing of the sort. I fully understand why fans like Powell - I think he's a decent player myself. What I don't understand is why liking Powell bars me or any other poster from saying anything critical about him - to the extent that posts that aren't actually critical are seen as such. It's weird. No one can say owt derogatory about Powell on ere didn’t you know. They can. They're just wrong when they do
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 27, 2022 20:59:27 GMT
Why does that matter? He’s our best player. That’s your opinion Mine is he’s not We’ve talked about this before, it turns out your standards for flair players are 2009-level Leo Messi or else they’re shit.
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Post by wakeypotter on Jun 27, 2022 21:00:11 GMT
When he’s good he’s good When he isn’t god he’s awful Can’t see loads of clubs queuing up for this superstar with only 1 year left on his contract. Should be a bargain for someone as he’s a world beater Thankfully he's more often good than not. World beater he may not be but he's one of the best in his position in the league and our best forward player. I can see a lot of teams being in for him if he was to leave on a free. We all see football differently hey
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Post by wakeypotter on Jun 27, 2022 21:02:11 GMT
That’s your opinion Mine is he’s not We’ve talked about this before, it turns out your standards for flair players are 2009-level Leo Messi or else they’re shit. We have and I got banned but my opinion will not change. I’m not saying he’s shit I’m saying he’s not what a lot think (in my opinion)
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 27, 2022 21:06:27 GMT
We’ve talked about this before, it turns out your standards for flair players are 2009-level Leo Messi or else they’re shit. We have and I got banned but my opinion will not change. I’m not saying he’s shit I’m saying he’s not what a lot think (in my opinion) You got banned? For not rating Powell? Can’t see that being the reason mate. Which creative players do you rate out of interest, who would we be better off with? If we didn’t have him, who’s providing the goals, the creativity?
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Post by wakeypotter on Jun 27, 2022 21:31:22 GMT
We have and I got banned but my opinion will not change. I’m not saying he’s shit I’m saying he’s not what a lot think (in my opinion) You got banned? For not rating Powell? Can’t see that being the reason mate. Which creative players do you rate out of interest, who would we be better off with? If we didn’t have him, who’s providing the goals, the creativity? No mate it wasn’t I called you something after you was sarcastic to which I apologise. Like you say messi around 2009 😃 I don’t really take much notice of players on other teams. I do like sawyers if played in correct position. Not every team plays with a 10 I do like Powell I just think some overrate him that’s all
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Jun 27, 2022 21:33:58 GMT
I quite like Sawyers. There's a player in there, for sure.
Shipping out Allen and TOB, and bringing in Sawyers, a better footballer than both of them, would be good business.
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Post by spitthedog on Jun 27, 2022 22:38:58 GMT
Surely we saw enough of Sawyers last season to end our interest. Our play was slow enough without him ambling around the middle of the pitch. I must have been watching a different game.... I thought he was the only player who was able to quicken up our play. The only creative player in the team when Powell was out. Sawyer will be more effective without Allen, who generally slowed down play.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 27, 2022 23:41:29 GMT
Thankfully he's more often good than not. World beater he may not be but he's one of the best in his position in the league and our best forward player. I can see a lot of teams being in for him if he was to leave on a free. We all see football differently hey True and some face the wrong way when the games on
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 27, 2022 23:43:34 GMT
I like Sawyers but I'd worry how MON would use him if he signed, he played him way to deep a lot of his time here and if that was his plan for him I'd rather we didn't bother.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2022 9:27:57 GMT
One of those players I wouldn't mind either way if he signed or not. Certainly has talent but also doesn't turn up some games.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2022 9:47:51 GMT
Surely we saw enough of Sawyers last season to end our interest. Our play was slow enough without him ambling around the middle of the pitch. Not often I agree with you March, but I do here. I can't believe we are chasing him still, one dimensional, half arsed footballer, who was nowhere near as good as I was expecting him to be
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Post by vinnyoverson on Jun 28, 2022 10:01:25 GMT
A no brainer for me if the right deal can be done on length of contract/wages.
He went missing for parts of games (but then again who didn't?) and had to contend with injuries and lack of match fitness but added real quality to our midfield for the most part. Composed, intelligent midfielder who can retain possession under pressure, pick out runners and chips in with the odd goal. He can also cover 6,8, and 10.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jun 28, 2022 10:23:48 GMT
A no brainer for me if the right deal can be done on length of contract/wages. He went missing for parts of games (but then again who didn't?) and had to contend with injuries and lack of match fitness but added real quality to our midfield for the most part. Composed, intelligent midfielder who can retain possession under pressure, pick out runners and chips in with the odd goal. He can also cover 6,8, and 10. Yeah that would be comedy gold "Sawyers Plays Centre Back"
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Post by thebet365 on Jun 28, 2022 10:34:52 GMT
A no brainer for me if the right deal can be done on length of contract/wages. He went missing for parts of games (but then again who didn't?) and had to contend with injuries and lack of match fitness but added real quality to our midfield for the most part. Composed, intelligent midfielder who can retain possession under pressure, pick out runners and chips in with the odd goal. He can also cover 6,8, and 10. Yeah that would be comedy gold "Sawyers Plays Centre Back" Number 6 is the CDM, equally daft idea mind.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jun 28, 2022 10:38:04 GMT
Yeah that would be comedy gold "Sawyers Plays Centre Back" Number 6 is the CDM, equally daft idea mind. Don't know where you've dreamt that up from in traditional numbering pre squad numbers centre backs were 5,6. Midfield 4,7,8,11, specifically Right Wing 7 Left Wing 11 4&8 were centre mids. Strikers 9,10. Goalkeeper 1. Rightback 2. Left back 3.
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Post by thebet365 on Jun 28, 2022 10:54:40 GMT
Number 6 is the CDM, equally daft idea mind. Don't know where you've dreamt that up from in traditional numbering pre squad numbers centre backs were 5,6. Midfield 4,7,8,11, specifically Right Wing 7 Left Wing 11 4&8 were centre mids. Strikers 9,10. Goalkeeper 1. Rightback 2. Left back 3. Fair do's tradionally it's correct.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jun 28, 2022 10:58:03 GMT
Don't know where you've dreamt that up from in traditional numbering pre squad numbers centre backs were 5,6. Midfield 4,7,8,11, specifically Right Wing 7 Left Wing 11 4&8 were centre mids. Strikers 9,10. Goalkeeper 1. Rightback 2. Left back 3. Fair do's tradionally it's correct. Don't know about even further back with the W system. That was before my time.
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Post by thebet365 on Jun 28, 2022 11:02:45 GMT
Fair do's tradionally it's correct. Don't know about even further back with the W system. That was before my time. I was going by the Prem, majority of 4's are CB and some 6's are CM's.
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Post by vinnyoverson on Jun 28, 2022 11:08:00 GMT
Yeah that would be comedy gold "Sawyers Plays Centre Back" Number 6 is the CDM, equally daft idea mind. Fair enough. You think it's daft but it's still correct. Sawyers evidently can cover that position (6) should that need arise (injuries/suspensions etc.) albeit I think he's best as an 8. We don't tend to really play with a true CDM in any case (I wish we did more often) but he's certainly able to play in that role as MoN seems to expect it to be carried out (ball retention, tempo, dropping deep to receive from the back 4/'keeper) especially alongside another deep-lying midfielder. Baker and Laurent can also play/cover 6. It just gives us that extra flexibility in the midfield dept.
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