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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 27, 2024 21:35:44 GMT
That’s not what we’re discussing. I was simply suggesting how handcuffing someone isn’t as simple as it may come across. There are lots of factors to consider. I think he could have Handcuffed him. What would you have done Cobs? Tickled him.
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Post by wannabee on Jul 27, 2024 21:37:31 GMT
Again, I ask us to take the latest pictures in isolation, like we did the original, five pillars @tted footage and draw some conclusions. Come on lads. Most rational people didn't take the first video in isolation Most rational people know that kicking someone in the head is criminal behaviour
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Post by knype on Jul 27, 2024 21:37:32 GMT
would this have been avoided if they didn't attack the police in the first place.a simple yes or no please Of course it would but what's that got do with what we're actually discussing? If people didn't break the law, then we wouldn't need any police at all, would we? End of thread. 🙄 Finally got there. Get your BLM throw and goto bed Paul
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 27, 2024 21:37:50 GMT
I think he could have Handcuffed him. What would you have done Cobs? Tickled him. Same as crouchpotato then? Ridicule ...
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Jul 27, 2024 21:38:04 GMT
Sounds simple but not as easy as it may seem particularly having witnessed the extreme violence the male used during the initial incident. If you’d tried to cuff him from the rear he could have kicked back at you or flicked his head back and butted you. The only reason the guy was lying prone was because he’d fallen after attacking the officer. Up till then he wasn’t for stopping with his violence. If you were a firearms officer and you were wanting to cuff him what would you have done with the gun you were holding? If you were bending down to cuff him could you be putting yourself and others at risk by having him to close to you and potentially your firearm particularly if you were on your own and other officers were dealing with others involved. There is a potential one on one he could overpower you. He may have been looking defenceless but he’s already proved he’s capable of extreme violence and you’d have to think about your safety arc whilst restraining him. Apologies if I am wrong here, but is it just me who thinks the reason he is lying prone is because he has already been tasered by the female officer? Look again at the original footage showing the kick, you can see the line running from her taser. Look again at the new footage, he falls after the officer appears to taser him.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 27, 2024 21:38:09 GMT
Ok then if some people were attacking people who you work with or you are close to...what would you do....try talking to them or what else He shouldn’t have stamped on his head. The part that really infuriates me, and I can’t believe it’s still being swept under the carpet, is the “defendants” making the incident a race issue. This kind of behaviour is everything that’s wrong with today’s society. People talk about the likes of Farage encouraging division between the various British demographs and he’s demonised. People like these twats deliberately incite racial division and it’s a very common theme. It’s dangerous and toxic and it needs stamping out (no pun intended)
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 27, 2024 21:38:51 GMT
I think he could have Handcuffed him. What would you have done Cobs? Tickled him. Hey it's no joke being pinned down and tickled. My big brother used to do that and it was torture. I still have nightmares about it now 😆
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 27, 2024 21:39:47 GMT
Of course it would but what's that got do with what we're actually discussing? If people didn't break the law, then we wouldn't need any police at all, would we? End of thread. 🙄 Finally got there. Get your BLM throw and goto bed Paul You're genuinely incapable of formulating any sort of coherent argument aren't you knype? Oh and I don't think anybody laid into BLM more than I did, at the time.
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Post by milton58 on Jul 27, 2024 21:40:28 GMT
Ok then if some people were attacking people who you work with or you are close to...what would you do....try talking to them or what else He shouldn’t have stamped on his head. The part that really infuriates me, and I can’t believe it’s still being swept under the carpet, is the “defendants” making the incident a race issue. This kind of behaviour is everything that’s wrong with today’s society. People talk about the likes of Farage encouraging division between the various British demographs and he’s demonised. People like these twats deliberately incite racial division and it’s a very common theme. It’s dangerous and toxic and it needs stamping out (no pun intended) sorry badge would have volleyed the cunt worse than Chris waddle
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 27, 2024 21:41:27 GMT
Hey it's no joke being pinned down and tickled. My big brother used to do that and it was torture. I still have nightmares about it now 😆 Yeh you’re right, I’d rather have my head stamped on😉
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 27, 2024 21:41:33 GMT
Ok then if some people were attacking people who you work with or you are close to...what would you do....try talking to them or what else He shouldn’t have stamped on his head. The part that really infuriates me, and I can’t believe it’s still being swept under the carpet, is the “defendants” making the incident a race issue. This kind of behaviour is everything that’s wrong with today’s society. People talk about the likes of Farage encouraging division between the various British demographs and he’s demonised. People like these twats deliberately incite racial division and it’s a very common theme. It’s dangerous and toxic and it needs stamping out (no pun intended) I think their solicitor is a complete bell end, if I'm honest.
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Post by henry on Jul 27, 2024 21:41:37 GMT
He did what was right to get the situation under control. The officer in question should be fully exonerated. If someone dicks about in an airport then they are lucky not to be shot. My overriding feeling is - fuck em. It looked like the situation WAS under control. Brother 1 was flat out, face down on the floor and brother 2 was sat on the seat with his hands on his head. If he was still worried the situation wasn't under control, he could have withdrawn his firearm and told the lad not to move until his colleagues had cuffed him. They are police officers, who were coming under a sustained attack. You may be happy that some people have no fear of the police but others aren't. The big issue here is (i'll say it again) They are police officers, who were coming under a sustained attack, FFS man wake up.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 27, 2024 21:41:38 GMT
Same as crouchpotato then? Ridicule ... Handbags can hurt😊
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 27, 2024 21:42:05 GMT
He shouldn’t have stamped on his head. The part that really infuriates me, and I can’t believe it’s still being swept under the carpet, is the “defendants” making the incident a race issue. This kind of behaviour is everything that’s wrong with today’s society. People talk about the likes of Farage encouraging division between the various British demographs and he’s demonised. People like these twats deliberately incite racial division and it’s a very common theme. It’s dangerous and toxic and it needs stamping out (no pun intended) sorry badge would have volleyed the cunt worse than Chris waddle I’d go for Jeremy Goss
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Post by Gods on Jul 27, 2024 21:42:39 GMT
I'm not sure if there is another country in the world where, if you assault armed police officers in an airport, you don't get shot dead.
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Post by knype on Jul 27, 2024 21:43:27 GMT
Finally got there. Get your BLM throw and goto bed Paul You're genuinely incapable of formulating any sort of coherent argument aren't you knype? Oh and I don't think anybody laid into BLM more than I did, at the time. There is no argument. You were wrong about this as were the other usual Leftwaffe suspects. Just take it they weren't innocent people as 1st depicted by some.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 27, 2024 21:44:21 GMT
He shouldn’t have stamped on his head. The part that really infuriates me, and I can’t believe it’s still being swept under the carpet, is the “defendants” making the incident a race issue. This kind of behaviour is everything that’s wrong with today’s society. People talk about the likes of Farage encouraging division between the various British demographs and he’s demonised. People like these twats deliberately incite racial division and it’s a very common theme. It’s dangerous and toxic and it needs stamping out (no pun intended) I think their solicitor is a complete bell end, if I'm honest. Nobody in their right mind would think any different. I think bell end is an understatement. Dangerous I’d say in the current climate. Would you not agree? As you know, I’m a “bellend” but I don’t go around inciting racial hatred on a national level. Not that I know of anyway
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 27, 2024 21:45:38 GMT
It looked like the situation WAS under control. Brother 1 was flat out, face down on the floor and brother 2 was sat on the seat with his hands on his head. If he was still worried the situation wasn't under control, he could have withdrawn his firearm and told the lad not to move until his colleagues had cuffed him. They are police officers, who were coming under a sustained attack. You may be happy that some people have no fear of the police but others aren't. The big issue here is (i'll say it again) They are police officers, who were coming under a sustained attack, FFS man wake up. That isn't true though is it? There's no 'sustained' about it. One has been tazered to the ground and the other is sitting still on a seat with his hands on his head.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 27, 2024 21:47:07 GMT
He shouldn’t have stamped on his head. The part that really infuriates me, and I can’t believe it’s still being swept under the carpet, is the “defendants” making the incident a race issue. This kind of behaviour is everything that’s wrong with today’s society. People talk about the likes of Farage encouraging division between the various British demographs and he’s demonised. People like these twats deliberately incite racial division and it’s a very common theme. It’s dangerous and toxic and it needs stamping out (no pun intended) I think their solicitor is a complete bell end, if I'm honest. Interesting you never posted that before the latest footage🤔
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 27, 2024 21:48:41 GMT
You're genuinely incapable of formulating any sort of coherent argument aren't you knype? Oh and I don't think anybody laid into BLM more than I did, at the time. There is no argument. You were wrong about this as were the other usual Leftwaffe suspects. Just take it they weren't innocent people as 1st depicted by some. There is an argument though. Just because you've decided that you're right, doesn't then mean that you're correct. There's plenty of people on here, who aren't from the left, who also think the copper was wrong to do what he did.
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Post by henry on Jul 27, 2024 21:49:08 GMT
They are police officers, who were coming under a sustained attack. You may be happy that some people have no fear of the police but others aren't. The big issue here is (i'll say it again) They are police officers, who were coming under a sustained attack, FFS man wake up. That isn't true though is it? There's no 'sustained' about it. One has been tazered to the ground and the other is sitting still on a seat with his hands on his head. It was a clear attack. Some may even call it a racist attack, it does work both ways. It's clear you are happy for this disregard of the police to take place.
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Post by henry on Jul 27, 2024 21:51:35 GMT
There is no argument. You were wrong about this as were the other usual Leftwaffe suspects. Just take it they weren't innocent people as 1st depicted by some. There is an argument though. Just because you've decided that you're right, doesn't then mean that you're correct. There's plenty of people on here, who aren't from the left, who also think the copper was wrong to do what he did. There will be some who will change their minds after seeing the full events - myself included.
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Post by mrnovember on Jul 27, 2024 21:52:13 GMT
Again, I ask us to take the latest pictures in isolation, like we did the original, five pillars @tted footage and draw some conclusions. Come on lads. Most rational people didn't take the first video in isolation Most rational people know that kicking someone in the head is criminal behaviour . Lol
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 27, 2024 21:53:03 GMT
I think their solicitor is a complete bell end, if I'm honest. Interesting you never posted that before the latest footage🤔 Eh? The latest footage doesn't change ANYTHING in my book. I've always said that NONE of us should pass judgement based on prior events but what couldn't be denied, is what we saw the out of control copper do. There was NOTHING that could have happened to justify his actions and in my opinion that is still the case.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 27, 2024 21:55:31 GMT
Interesting you never posted that before the latest footage🤔 Eh? The latest footage doesn't change ANYTHING in my book. I've always said that NONE of us should pass judgement based on prior events but what couldn't be denied, is what we saw the out of control copper do. There was NOTHING that could have happened to justify his actions and in my opinion that is still the case. I’m talking about the solicitor and the comments he’s made on various news outlets
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 27, 2024 21:55:51 GMT
That isn't true though is it? There's no 'sustained' about it. One has been tazered to the ground and the other is sitting still on a seat with his hands on his head. It was a clear attack. Some may even call it a racist attack, it does work both ways. It's clear you are happy for this disregard of the police to take place. The attack was nullified though, one had been tazered to the ground and the other one was sitting on a seat with his hands on his head. AT THAT POINT there was no need for the copper to do what he did.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 27, 2024 21:57:00 GMT
Eh? The latest footage doesn't change ANYTHING in my book. I've always said that NONE of us should pass judgement based on prior events but what couldn't be denied, is what we saw the out of control copper do. There was NOTHING that could have happened to justify his actions and in my opinion that is still the case. I’m talking about the solicitor and the comments he’s made on various news outlets And you specifically linked it to the new footage. Which (as I've just said) changes nothing in my book.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 27, 2024 21:58:11 GMT
I’m talking about the solicitor and the comments he’s made on various news outlets And you specifically linked it to the new footage. Which (as I've just said) changes nothing in my book. I said I didn’t see you call the solicitor a 🛎️ end before it came to light
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 27, 2024 21:58:21 GMT
Loving the outfits the female divers are wearing, right up their crack most of em. Oops wrong thread
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Post by henry on Jul 27, 2024 21:59:47 GMT
Loving the outfits the female divers are wearing, right up their crack most of em. Oops wrong thread Should be more diving on the tele
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