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Post by elystokie on Apr 21, 2024 7:12:31 GMT
There's historically hundreds of Met Police at Hyde Park for 420, doubt today will be any different. I understand why they're there, it's a large gathering of people after all (although I wish the authorities would recognise this fact with some toilet facilities as well as law enforcement 🙂) but it must be the easiest gig of the year for them, I suspect mainly because very little alcohol is consumed 😀 I'll observe and report back 😎 Happy 420 everyone 💚 Great day 🙂 We walked through the whole of the park at around 5pm and it was still full of people openly smoking weed, best turn out I've seen, obviously because it's fell on a weekend this year. The age demographic seemed a bit younger than normal, seems the youth are embracing the culture in a big way, nice to see. Typically heavy police presence, saw a load getting onto a coach, loads of vans, a posse on horseback and a few surveillance vans. Not a bad day out for them really, nice walk around the Park getting passively high on other people's weed probably on time and a half 😀 I never saw so much as crossed word, everyone, every single person, was really friendly, as usual. Signs everywhere telling us about the illegality of cannabis and how searches are taking place, at the same time as the police are walking past, and often engaging with, people openly smoking weed. Which is another indication just how 'Emperor's New Clothes' the whole thing is in all reality 😂🤡 We did think that there was a correlation to be made between the distance the police kept from people and the size of the joint they were smoking, some joints were absolutely huge and they were the one's they gave the widest berth 😂
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Post by elystokie on Apr 21, 2024 7:31:42 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 23, 2024 7:40:10 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Apr 23, 2024 20:54:46 GMT
There's historically hundreds of Met Police at Hyde Park for 420, doubt today will be any different. I understand why they're there, it's a large gathering of people after all (although I wish the authorities would recognise this fact with some toilet facilities as well as law enforcement 🙂) but it must be the easiest gig of the year for them, I suspect mainly because very little alcohol is consumed 😀 I'll observe and report back 😎 Happy 420 everyone 💚 I'm curious how '420' played out. A bunch of individuals stoned off their nut, are likely to cause about as much public nuisance as a snail crossing the road. Did the Met send in something akin to the Charge of the Light Brigade to deal with these dangerous individuals? I've genuinely not looked... I almost don't want to know. What I hope, is that common sense prevailed and the Met sent a few officers to make sure that most everyone played nicely and the whole thing just petered out naturally. On an unrelated note, I feel sorry for the pasting Mark Rowley is taking over the 'openly Jewish' situation. He actually comes across as a decent bloke, trying to make a positive impact... Hound this guy out, and you might end up with Cressida MK2.
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Post by elystokie on Apr 23, 2024 21:12:15 GMT
There's historically hundreds of Met Police at Hyde Park for 420, doubt today will be any different. I understand why they're there, it's a large gathering of people after all (although I wish the authorities would recognise this fact with some toilet facilities as well as law enforcement 🙂) but it must be the easiest gig of the year for them, I suspect mainly because very little alcohol is consumed 😀 I'll observe and report back 😎 Happy 420 everyone 💚 I'm curious how '420' played out. A bunch of individuals stoned off their nut, are likely to cause about as much public nuisance as a snail crossing the road. Did the Met send in something akin to the Charge of the Light Brigade to deal with these dangerous individuals? I've genuinely not looked... I almost don't want to know. What I hope, is that common sense prevailed and the Met sent a few officers to make sure that most everyone played nicely and the whole thing just petered out naturally. On an unrelated note, I feel sorry for the pasting Mark Rowley is taking over the 'openly Jewish' situation. He actually comes across as a decent bloke, trying to make a positive impact... Hound this guy out, and you might end up with Cressida MK2. I'd say there was around 15-20 vans I saw at the Marble Arch end, loads of police walking around but not bothering anyone, that I saw anyway, most were pretty cheerful and happy to chat with folk it seemed. On exit at the Hyde Park tube station we saw poilce getting on a hired coach and a surveillance van. I did see half a dozen police on horseback riding past Marble Arch at around 3 but I personally didn't see any in the park this time. I'd love to know how much weed they collected in their 'cannabis amnesty' bins 😀
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Post by metalhead on Apr 23, 2024 21:31:36 GMT
I'm curious how '420' played out. A bunch of individuals stoned off their nut, are likely to cause about as much public nuisance as a snail crossing the road. Did the Met send in something akin to the Charge of the Light Brigade to deal with these dangerous individuals? I've genuinely not looked... I almost don't want to know. What I hope, is that common sense prevailed and the Met sent a few officers to make sure that most everyone played nicely and the whole thing just petered out naturally. On an unrelated note, I feel sorry for the pasting Mark Rowley is taking over the 'openly Jewish' situation. He actually comes across as a decent bloke, trying to make a positive impact... Hound this guy out, and you might end up with Cressida MK2. I'd say there was around 15-20 vans I saw at the Marble Arch end, loads of police walking around but not bothering anyone, that I saw anyway, most were pretty cheerful and happy to chat with folk it seemed. On exit at the Hyde Park tube station we saw poilce getting on a hired coach and a surveillance van. I did see half a dozen police on horseback riding past Marble Arch at around 3 but I personally didn't see any in the park this time. I'd love to know how much weed they collected in their 'cannabis amnesty' bins 😀 Sounds like it went down OK then. Probably more police than was necessary, but hey ho, so long as it didn't descend into farce, I think that's a positive outcome. Really, it's about time they just fucking legalize it. Stop the underground nonsense. Stop the organized crime that profits from this. Stop the extortionists threatening to publish the details of customers on the Dark Web. Bring the whole thing above ground, make it legal and regulate the fuck off it. If it was taxed, the Government would make loads of money. It's time to stop the silliness really.
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Post by elystokie on Apr 23, 2024 21:41:09 GMT
I'd say there was around 15-20 vans I saw at the Marble Arch end, loads of police walking around but not bothering anyone, that I saw anyway, most were pretty cheerful and happy to chat with folk it seemed. On exit at the Hyde Park tube station we saw poilce getting on a hired coach and a surveillance van. I did see half a dozen police on horseback riding past Marble Arch at around 3 but I personally didn't see any in the park this time. I'd love to know how much weed they collected in their 'cannabis amnesty' bins 😀 Sounds like it went down OK then. Probably more police than was necessary, but hey ho, so long as it didn't descend into farce, I think that's a positive outcome. Really, it's about time they just fucking legalize it. Stop the underground nonsense. Stop the organized crime that profits from this. Stop the extortionists threatening to publish the details of customers on the Dark Web. Bring the whole thing above ground, make it legal and regulate the fuck off it. If it was taxed, the Government would make loads of money. It's time to stop the silliness really. My take on it looking from a police perspective is they know the law is a load of bollocks, most trouble that's caused that they have to deal with is from folk under the influence of alcohol, only a total idiot wouldn't acknowledge that. However, it's very handy for them for all sorts of reasons for it to remain illegal. I stand to be corrected by those that have done or are doing the job 🙂
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Post by metalhead on Apr 23, 2024 21:52:20 GMT
Sounds like it went down OK then. Probably more police than was necessary, but hey ho, so long as it didn't descend into farce, I think that's a positive outcome. Really, it's about time they just fucking legalize it. Stop the underground nonsense. Stop the organized crime that profits from this. Stop the extortionists threatening to publish the details of customers on the Dark Web. Bring the whole thing above ground, make it legal and regulate the fuck off it. If it was taxed, the Government would make loads of money. It's time to stop the silliness really. My take on it looking from a police perspective is they know the law is a load of bollocks, most trouble that's caused that they have to deal with is from folk under the influence of alcohol, only a total idiot wouldn't acknowledge that. However, it's very handy for them for all sorts of reasons for it to remain illegal. I stand to be corrected by those that have done or are doing the job 🙂 Alcohol and cocaine are major causes of fights on nights out. The majority of us have had at least one scrap after a few cans of brave and with the recent massive uptake in cocaine usage, you've now got that to deal with as well. Weed has the exact opposite effect. That said, if the police weren't actively going around arresting people, then we might be turning a corner.
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Post by elystokie on Apr 23, 2024 22:02:15 GMT
My take on it looking from a police perspective is they know the law is a load of bollocks, most trouble that's caused that they have to deal with is from folk under the influence of alcohol, only a total idiot wouldn't acknowledge that. However, it's very handy for them for all sorts of reasons for it to remain illegal. I stand to be corrected by those that have done or are doing the job 🙂 Alcohol and cocaine are major causes of fights on nights out. The majority of us have had at least one scrap after a few cans of brave and with the recent massive uptake in cocaine usage, you've now got that to deal with as well. Weed has the exact opposite effect. That said, if the police weren't actively going around arresting people, then we might be turning a corner. Think there was 6 cautioned and 1 arrest of some knob carrying a knife according to the press report I read, no idea how true it is. Their hands are somewhat tied at Hyde Park 420, there's less than a thousand cells in London, they'd have been filled before lunchtime if they nicked people for weed 😀 It was nice to see most of them looking relaxed and being friendly to folk tho.
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Post by metalhead on Apr 23, 2024 22:07:45 GMT
Alcohol and cocaine are major causes of fights on nights out. The majority of us have had at least one scrap after a few cans of brave and with the recent massive uptake in cocaine usage, you've now got that to deal with as well. Weed has the exact opposite effect. That said, if the police weren't actively going around arresting people, then we might be turning a corner. Think there was 6 cautioned and 1 arrest of some knob carrying a knife according to the press report I read, no idea how true it is. Their hands are somewhat tied at Hyde Park 420, there's less than a thousand cells in London, they'd have been filled before lunchtime if they nicked people for weed 😀 It was nice to see most of them looking relaxed and being friendly to folk tho. It might sound like hyperbole, but let's be real, impracticality has never stopped them in the past. What would be a really sensible story is one of these gatherings take place and there's a 20 or so police... just making sure everyone is happy and safe. We're not there yet, but I think it's coming.
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Post by elystokie on Apr 23, 2024 22:16:08 GMT
Think there was 6 cautioned and 1 arrest of some knob carrying a knife according to the press report I read, no idea how true it is. Their hands are somewhat tied at Hyde Park 420, there's less than a thousand cells in London, they'd have been filled before lunchtime if they nicked people for weed 😀 It was nice to see most of them looking relaxed and being friendly to folk tho. It might sound like hyperbole, but let's be real, impracticality has never stopped them in the past. What would be a really sensible story is one of these gatherings take place and there's a 20 or so police... just making sure everyone is happy and safe. We're not there yet, but I think it's coming. I was watching a police reality show this evening that was filmed in Brighton and to be fair there wasn't the focus on weed that I've seen in similar shows so here's hoping. All but one of the incidents they dealt with on the show was the result of somone being pissed. I'd be interested to hear from people in the know if this is par for the course 🤔
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 24, 2024 7:11:15 GMT
It might sound like hyperbole, but let's be real, impracticality has never stopped them in the past. What would be a really sensible story is one of these gatherings take place and there's a 20 or so police... just making sure everyone is happy and safe. We're not there yet, but I think it's coming. I was watching a police reality show this evening that was filmed in Brighton and to be fair there wasn't the focus on weed that I've seen in similar shows so here's hoping. All but one of the incidents they dealt with on the show was the result of somone being pissed. I'd be interested to hear from people in the know if this is par for the course 🤔 I guess it’s all about the circs and the ages of those involved a little bit like alcohol. Due to the lack of resources it’s highly unlikely that an adult would be arrested for smoking a joint in public and that common sense would prevail and he’d be just told to put it out especially if children are about as like it or not it’s still illegal. In relation to children they’ll likely have some education around substance abuse the same as alcohol by an organisation like Catch 22. The dealers are the targets for police. Contrary to common belief the police aren’t looking to criminalise children unless there’s nowhere else to go and it’s a crime that’s too serious and there’s no other option.
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Post by elystokie on Apr 24, 2024 9:12:04 GMT
I was watching a police reality show this evening that was filmed in Brighton and to be fair there wasn't the focus on weed that I've seen in similar shows so here's hoping. All but one of the incidents they dealt with on the show was the result of somone being pissed. I'd be interested to hear from people in the know if this is par for the course 🤔 I guess it’s all about the circs and the ages of those involved a little bit like alcohol. Due to the lack of resources it’s highly unlikely that an adult would be arrested for smoking a joint in public and that common sense would prevail and he’d be just told to put it out especially if children are about as like it or not it’s still illegal. In relation to children they’ll likely have some education around substance abuse the same as alcohol by an organisation like Catch 22. The dealers are the targets for police. Contrary to common belief the police aren’t looking to criminalise children unless there’s nowhere else to go and it’s a crime that’s too serious and there’s no other option. The point I was trying to make is that ALL of the offences committed were by people under the influence of alcohol, from the narrative portrayed by the officers, this is far from unusual. So I was asking for clarity from serving or ex-officers on whether this was the norm. If this is the norm, unless they have similar problems with people under the influence of weed, which I find highly unlikely but I'm willing to learn otherwise, it just makes the illegality of cannabis look all the more ridiculous. There were no children that I saw in Hyde Park, never even thought about it before but I've never seen any at a 420 event, aside from that I don't think they could start arresting en masse because there were thousands doing it, it would have been akin to trying to arrest the whole crowd at a football match, not feasible, so they took the sensible approach.
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Post by metalhead on Apr 24, 2024 21:04:38 GMT
I was watching a police reality show this evening that was filmed in Brighton and to be fair there wasn't the focus on weed that I've seen in similar shows so here's hoping. All but one of the incidents they dealt with on the show was the result of somone being pissed. I'd be interested to hear from people in the know if this is par for the course 🤔 I guess it’s all about the circs and the ages of those involved a little bit like alcohol. Due to the lack of resources it’s highly unlikely that an adult would be arrested for smoking a joint in public and that common sense would prevail and he’d be just told to put it out especially if children are about as like it or not it’s still illegal. In relation to children they’ll likely have some education around substance abuse the same as alcohol by an organisation like Catch 22. The dealers are the targets for police. Contrary to common belief the police aren’t looking to criminalise children unless there’s nowhere else to go and it’s a crime that’s too serious and there’s no other option. Let's be honest, dealers should be the only target. It would be easier to just legalise it.
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Post by desman2 on Apr 24, 2024 21:49:05 GMT
This guy can take the piss
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Post by iancransonsknees on Apr 25, 2024 6:07:06 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 1, 2024 13:07:02 GMT
Quite rightly there’s been criticism of officers in the past but this incident shows how the majority of them are good, brave and happy to put there neck on the line in incidents like this.
Thoughts go out to the 2 officer’s seriously injured in the incident and thanks to those officers that got there so swiftly and caught him so quickly before other lives could have been lost.
Looking at this footage the officers involved didn’t have firearms just tasers so weren’t hugely tooled up to deal with the male and had to go in close contact with him.
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