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Post by a on Mar 25, 2022 22:20:39 GMT
Good young player in a very poor team??
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Post by citynickscfc on Mar 25, 2022 22:21:57 GMT
Good young player in a very poor team?? He looks shit. I have no idea what games people are watching? Hes a man city player, I think it's pretty much the only reason he's considered as he's been woeful for us
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 26, 2022 1:44:07 GMT
Good young player in a very poor team?? He looks shit. I have no idea what games people are watching? Hes a man city player, I think it's pretty much the only reason he's considered as he's been woeful for us Blackburn fans absolutely rave about his half season with them. “Future England captain” etc. Not that that means anything necessarily but it’s obviously not *just* that he’s a Man City player
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Post by thestatusquo on Mar 26, 2022 6:27:09 GMT
More though, he looks like a young player who isn’t ready. In many of the games he’s played, he’s made errors that have led to game changing goals. Our defence was a lot sturdier without him. What errors has he made that have lead to goals? Coventry away
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Post by a on Mar 26, 2022 7:35:59 GMT
Good young player in a very poor team?? He looks shit. I have no idea what games people are watching? Hes a man city player, I think it's pretty much the only reason he's considered as he's been woeful for us We have a habit of finding these players dont we?!
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Post by citynickscfc on Mar 26, 2022 16:40:48 GMT
He looks shit. I have no idea what games people are watching? Hes a man city player, I think it's pretty much the only reason he's considered as he's been woeful for us We have a habit of finding these players dont we?! Yes we do
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Post by cvillestokie on Mar 26, 2022 16:56:53 GMT
He looks shit. I have no idea what games people are watching? Hes a man city player, I think it's pretty much the only reason he's considered as he's been woeful for us Blackburn fans absolutely rave about his half season with them. “Future England captain” etc. Not that that means anything necessarily but it’s obviously not *just* that he’s a Man City player Some Blackburn fans did. The overall consensus was as mixed as it was on here. Regardless, it’s what he does in the red and white that matters to us.
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 26, 2022 17:14:54 GMT
Blackburn fans absolutely rave about his half season with them. “Future England captain” etc. Not that that means anything necessarily but it’s obviously not *just* that he’s a Man City player Some Blackburn fans did. The overall consensus was as mixed as it was on here. Regardless, it’s what he does in the red and white that matters to us. Not what I saw. They were overwhelmingly positive and envious we’d got him. Anyway yes obviously it’s neither here nor there in the grand scheme of things but he’s very highly rated by a lot of people.
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Post by liathroid on Apr 9, 2022 20:35:25 GMT
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Post by gaznandi on Apr 13, 2022 9:27:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2022 9:29:58 GMT
Not sure why, barely certain we should look to keep him.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Apr 13, 2022 9:54:09 GMT
Not sure why, barely certain we should look to keep him. Can't see why we'd even want to keep him on loan. He's not exactly a difference maker (except in a bad way occasionally) I'd far rather we played our own players.
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 13, 2022 10:05:21 GMT
From the Manchester Evening News:
City are also open to the right offer for 20-year-old Harwood-Bellis following enquiries from a number of Premier League clubs. The England Under-21 star came through the academy and made his first-team debut in September 2019, and had a bright start on loan at Anderlecht this season but switched to Stoke for the second half of the campaign.
No chance we will buy him - the clue is enquiries from other Premier clubs.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2022 10:09:21 GMT
From the Manchester Evening News: City are also open to the right offer for 20-year-old Harwood-Bellis following enquiries from a number of Premier League clubs. The England Under-21 star came through the academy and made his first-team debut in September 2019, and had a bright start on loan at Anderlecht this season but switched to Stoke for the second half of the campaign. No chance we will buy him - the clue is enquiries from other Premier clubs. Could live without signing him.
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 13, 2022 10:18:11 GMT
From the Manchester Evening News: City are also open to the right offer for 20-year-old Harwood-Bellis following enquiries from a number of Premier League clubs. The England Under-21 star came through the academy and made his first-team debut in September 2019, and had a bright start on loan at Anderlecht this season but switched to Stoke for the second half of the campaign. No chance we will buy him - the clue is enquiries from other Premier clubs. Could live without signing him. Same here just posted it for the disillusioned fans who thought 'the right bid' could possibly come from Stoke.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2022 10:25:16 GMT
Could live without signing him. Same here just posted it for the disillusioned fans who thought 'the right bid' could possibly come from Stoke. With him being at Man City, U21 etc I think the right bid could be a lot more than we would be willing to pay and rightly so. Personally wouldn't want us splashing a big chunk of our budget on him even if we could afford him. He's been ok, no more.
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Post by jeycov on Apr 13, 2022 10:28:53 GMT
Decision for him is how much first team playing time would he get at a Premiership club. Or indeed another Championship club Collins has bided his time at Burnley and seems to be featuring more recently
If he wants to stay and fight for a place here then maybe worth considering, taking into account a good sell on value
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 13, 2022 10:31:41 GMT
I'd be pretty happy if he's not here next season, mistake after mistake, he can't be relied upon and it seems moronic he hasn't been dropped (although that could be forced due to loan agreement, costs more if he doesn't play etc).
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 13, 2022 10:44:24 GMT
I'd take him for another season. Could play in a back 2 with Souttar or a back 3 with Souttar/A.N.Other no problem, yes he's made mistakes but he's a young lad who will get better and better......
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 13, 2022 10:47:01 GMT
I'd take him for another season. Could play in a back 2 with Souttar or a back 3 with Souttar/A.N.Other no problem, yes he's made mistakes but he's a young lad who will get better and better...... I'd rather we used our own young lads tbh, even taking his age into consideration its still too many mistakes for me.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 13, 2022 10:48:00 GMT
I'd take him for another season. Could play in a back 2 with Souttar or a back 3 with Souttar/A.N.Other no problem, yes he's made mistakes but he's a young lad who will get better and better...... I'd rather we used our own young lads tbh, even taking his age into consideration its still too many mistakes for me. We can use our own lads as well, we will have to turn to the loan market to beef up the squad whether we like it or not.......
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Apr 13, 2022 10:50:05 GMT
I'd rather we used our own young lads tbh, even taking his age into consideration its still too many mistakes for me. We can use our own lads as well, we will have to turn to the loan market to beef up the squad whether we like it or not....... Can't see any point in using the loan market for squad fillers. Loans should be strictly reserved for difference makers.
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Post by mrrine on Apr 13, 2022 10:50:15 GMT
Not sure why, barely certain we should look to keep him. People are paying for potential. I wouldn't touch any deal to be quite honest.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 13, 2022 10:50:28 GMT
I'd rather we used our own young lads tbh, even taking his age into consideration its still too many mistakes for me. We can use our own lads as well, we will have to turn to the loan market to beef up the squad whether we like it or not....... I'm sure we will, I think we'd be better off looking at other options, especially if he's one of the "expensive loans" MON talked about.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 13, 2022 10:51:27 GMT
We can use our own lads as well, we will have to turn to the loan market to beef up the squad whether we like it or not....... Can't see any point in using the loan market for squad fillers. Loans should be strictly reserved for difference makers. I didn't say "squad fillers" in the sense of just someone making up the numbers. I said we will have to use the loan market to beef up the squad which we will, those players can of course be difference makers........
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Apr 13, 2022 10:52:14 GMT
I'd rather see us bring in a left footed centre back to play in a back two or a three, so we'd have Souttar, Willmott, new centre back and Forrester/Taylor moving forward.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Apr 13, 2022 11:11:44 GMT
Can't see any point in using the loan market for squad fillers. Loans should be strictly reserved for difference makers. I didn't say "squad fillers" in the sense of just someone making up the numbers. I said we will have to use the loan market to beef up the squad which we will, those players can of course be difference makers........ Well from what we've seen of THB not in a good way. No problem with that type of loan because of course he could have been but he hasn't so my gut would say better to take another viewed as high potential and roll the dice again than repeat something that's proved quite underwhelming. Can't say I really understand why he's been played instead of Wilmot who'll be here next season and MON was so positive about when we signed him. Is he another one he's signed and is ready to give up on already?
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 13, 2022 11:18:34 GMT
From the Manchester Evening News: City are also open to the right offer for 20-year-old Harwood-Bellis following enquiries from a number of Premier League clubs. The England Under-21 star came through the academy and made his first-team debut in September 2019, and had a bright start on loan at Anderlecht this season but switched to Stoke for the second half of the campaign. No chance we will buy him - the clue is enquiries from other Premier clubs. That might be just agent speak to start a bidding war?
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 13, 2022 11:23:35 GMT
I didn't say "squad fillers" in the sense of just someone making up the numbers. I said we will have to use the loan market to beef up the squad which we will, those players can of course be difference makers........ Well from what we've seen of THB not in a good way. No problem with that type of loan because of course he could have been but he hasn't so my gut would say better to take another viewed as high potential and roll the dice again than repeat something that's proved quite underwhelming. Can't say I really understand why he's been played instead of Wilmot who'll be here next season and MON was so positive about when we signed him. Is he another one he's signed and is ready to give up on already? You can hardly say he has given up on Wilmot??? He has played in 37 games this season! He's give him a run at RWB when most fans were urging him to play him in midfield. He's clearly not got the passing skills for midfield.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Apr 13, 2022 11:28:53 GMT
Well from what we've seen of THB not in a good way. No problem with that type of loan because of course he could have been but he hasn't so my gut would say better to take another viewed as high potential and roll the dice again than repeat something that's proved quite underwhelming. Can't say I really understand why he's been played instead of Wilmot who'll be here next season and MON was so positive about when we signed him. Is he another one he's signed and is ready to give up on already? You can hardly say he has given up on Wilmot??? He has played in 37 games this season! He's give him a run at RWB when most fans were urging him to play him in midfield. He's clearly not got the passing skills for midfield. I don't see how you could argue that one of our major Summer signings is now not a first choice centre back.
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