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Post by mtrstudent on Jun 13, 2024 14:58:01 GMT
Uniper wins $14 billion arbitration ruling against Gazprom - Reuters. Ruling "allowing it to tear up dormant gas supply contracts and ...marks a landmark victory for Uniper, which had to be rescued by the German government in 2022 after Gazprom first cut and later suspended supplies, forcing the group to buy replacement volumes at sky-high prices on the spot market." Anyone think Gazprom will pay up?
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Post by Northy on Jun 13, 2024 15:04:09 GMT
Uniper wins $14 billion arbitration ruling against Gazprom - Reuters. Ruling "allowing it to tear up dormant gas supply contracts and ...marks a landmark victory for Uniper, which had to be rescued by the German government in 2022 after Gazprom first cut and later suspended supplies, forcing the group to buy replacement volumes at sky-high prices on the spot market." Anyone think Gazprom will pay up? Absolutely... not
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Post by mtrstudent on Jun 13, 2024 15:45:10 GMT
Satellite images seem to show more wrecked russian S-400 air defences. Just like Ukraine claimed.
Russia says they shot down 7 ATACMS in that strike. If you believe Russian propaganda then that's $10 million in nearly expired early 1990s missiles to take out maybe $200 million of Russia's modern air defence ๐
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Post by LDE76 on Jun 13, 2024 16:18:13 GMT
Satellite images seem to show more wrecked russian S-400 air defences. Just like Ukraine claimed. Russia says they shot down 7 ATACMS in that strike. If you believe Russian propaganda then that's $10 million in nearly expired early 1990s missiles to take out maybe $200 million of Russia's modern air defence ๐ "Super-stronk Russian air defence system destroy western imperialist weapon without even firing missile."
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Post by LDE76 on Jun 13, 2024 17:54:26 GMT
Russia has abducted masses of Ukrainian children. They get banned from speaking Ukrainian and are brainwashed and trained to be future meat for Russia's planned wars. Imagine the suffering of the parents. ๐ข You have to applaud the efforts of the investigators, but I can't give that post a "like". Of all the evils that Russia has visited on Ukraine, this is the one that probably disturbs and sickens me the most. It's ethnic cleansing taken to its ultimate extreme, carried out at the most personal level, reprogramming innocents as though they were trying to nip Ukrainian identity in the bud. I'm appalled by things like the forced assimilation of Native Americans in the Nineteenth Century, despite being reminded that "people thought differently in those days"; the prevalence of such a mindset in an ostensibly modern European country, cultural differences notwithstanding, horrifies me beyond words.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jun 13, 2024 18:23:57 GMT
Ukrainian shelling can be seen in loads more videos now. The situation seems to be easing a bit. According to a really good Ukrainian intel group, Russia still has enough reserves for another major push somewhere, but that's it. The window republicans opened for Putin is closing... You keep going on about Republicans but Biden/Democrats is equally culpable, he should have sent ATACMS a long time ago and it would have had a significant impact on Russias ability. Instead they dithered and delayed. Trump is a clown but this war could have been over if the Ukrainians had been tooled up early doors.
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Post by LDE76 on Jun 13, 2024 18:31:54 GMT
Apropos of nothing:
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Post by mtrstudent on Jun 13, 2024 18:40:29 GMT
You keep going on about Republicans but Biden/Democrats is equally culpable, he should have sent ATACMS a long time ago and it would have had a significant impact on Russias ability. Instead they dithered and delayed. Trump is a clown but this war could have been over if the Ukrainians had been tooled up early doors. I honestly believe they should have sent ATACMS earlier. The Biden admin has made what look like idiotic mistakes. For the war, masses of air defence and artillery are more impactful though IMO. The Biden plan of this package for 2024 then a new one later looked like the path to Ukrainian victory to me. The republican blockade was horrendous and evil. They opened up Ukraine's power grid to destruction and starved the defenders of ammunition at a disastrous point. They've played a blinder for Putin too because the delay has punted discussion on the next package into the weeds. There is just no way the ATACMS delay has had the same impact as the republicans' pro-Putin blockade.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jun 13, 2024 22:14:19 GMT
Ukrainian shelling can be seen in loads more videos now. The situation seems to be easing a bit. According to a really good Ukrainian intel group, Russia still has enough reserves for another major push somewhere, but that's it. The window republicans opened for Putin is closing... You keep going on about Republicans but Biden/Democrats is equally culpable, he should have sent ATACMS a long time ago and it would have had a significant impact on Russias ability. Instead they dithered and delayed. Trump is a clown but this war could have been over if the Ukrainians had been tooled up early doors. I'm sure the Democrats could have done some things better, but there is not a chance they are "equally culpable". The Republicans are deliberately trying to turn the war in favour of the Russians. For me, there is night and day between the actions of the two parties on this subject.
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Post by tuum on Jun 14, 2024 5:24:29 GMT
You keep going on about Republicans but Biden/Democrats is equally culpable, he should have sent ATACMS a long time ago and it would have had a significant impact on Russias ability. Instead they dithered and delayed. Trump is a clown but this war could have been over if the Ukrainians had been tooled up early doors. I'm sure the Democrats could have done some things better, but there is not a chance they are "equally culpable". The Republicans are deliberately trying to turn the war in favour of the Russians. For me, there is night and day between the actions of the two parties on this subject. Why would the Republicans do that? I can understand that they don't want to spend money on a war that doesn't involve them but to actively want Putin to win is a dangerous path to go down. If Russia wins this war the world will be a much more dangerous place.
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Post by lordb on Jun 14, 2024 7:32:00 GMT
I'm sure the Democrats could have done some things better, but there is not a chance they are "equally culpable". The Republicans are deliberately trying to turn the war in favour of the Russians. For me, there is night and day between the actions of the two parties on this subject. Why would the Republicans do that? I can understand that they don't want to spend money on a war that doesn't involve them but to actively want Putin to win is a dangerous path to go down. If Russia wins this war the world will be a much more dangerous place. Absolutely and yet many Republicans clearly support that
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jun 14, 2024 9:54:52 GMT
Why would the Republicans do that? I can understand that they don't want to spend money on a war that doesn't involve them but to actively want Putin to win is a dangerous path to go down. If Russia wins this war the world will be a much more dangerous place. Absolutely and yet many Republicans clearly support that As do many Democrats like those that signed that open letter last year.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jun 14, 2024 14:23:26 GMT
Putin has apparently offered a ceasefire if Ukraine withdraw from the occupied areas & drop their NATO bid.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Jun 14, 2024 14:36:45 GMT
Putin has apparently offered a ceasefire if Ukraine withdraw from the occupied areas & drop their NATO bid. So he wants Ukraine to withdraw from Ukraine!
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Post by Gawa on Jun 14, 2024 15:41:38 GMT
Putin has apparently offered a ceasefire if Ukraine withdraw from the occupied areas & drop their NATO bid. So he wants Ukraine to withdraw from Ukraine! Goes back further than the start of this conflict and back through to 2014 when the Euromaiden and revolution of dignity protests took place and president Viktor Yanukovych was ousted from government. What followed that was the "decommunization and de-Sovietization of the country" which resulted in statues removed, thousands of streets renamed, hundreds of cities renamed, political parties banned etc.. It was criticised by many groups including the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe, the European Commission for Democracy through Law, Kharkiv Human Rights Protection Group and many others on the following grounds: - Negatively impacts freedom of expression. - Lack of opportunity of civil society to participate in public discussions about the laws. - Criminalizes public expression of views held by many Ukrainians - Not complying with European legislative standards. - Making comparisons between political parties and Nazis (opposite ends of political spectrum). In addition to the above the Ukranian Parliament also then voted to abolish the law on language policies that had given the Russian, Romanian, and Hungarian languages the official status of regional languages in some areas. They also made ammendments to Law allowing them to appoint and dismiss judges in the supreme Court. And followed that by dismissing ministers and issuing arrest warrants for them. According to the European Commission for Democracy through Law "the role and functions of the Prosecutorโs Office is not in accordance with Council of Europe standards". Following the ousting of Yanukovych, pro-Russian, counter-revolutionary protests began in southern in eastern Ukraine. According to Cathy Young, in the Antimaidan protests against the revolution, street posters, Internet posts, and even speeches at rallies attacked the new government as a "Jewish clique" seeking to use Ukrainians to defend the interests of wealthy Jews, and depicted the revolution as a "Zionist coup." Thousands of people in Kharkiv, Donetsk, Simferopol, Odesa, Luhansk, Melitopol, Yevpatoria, Kerch, and Mariupol protested against the new government. Public surveys in April 2014 revealed that most people in Ukraine's eastern regions considered all levels of the government illegitimate. Half of respondents believed that President Turchynov was "illegally occupying his post". Roughly half held the same opinion about the central government led by Prime Minister Yatsenyuk. However, nearly 70% agreed that Yanukovych was also not the legal president of the country. After Euromaidan, eight former officials tied to Yanukovych's Party of Regions were found to have committed suicide. When Newsweek in summer 2015 approached the General Prosecutor's Office about the deaths, the office initially replied that all information about them was a state secret. As a result of the above a number of breakaway states in the South East were then formed: Donetsk People's Republic Luhansk People's Republic Republic of Crimea Other states tried to breakaway but failed; Novorossiya, Kharkiv People's Republic and Odesa People's Republic. In eastern and southern Ukraine, Russification and ethnic Russian settlement during centuries of Russian rule caused the Russian language to attain primacy, even amongst ethnic Ukrainians. In Crimea, ethnic Russians have comprised the majority of the population since the deportation of the indigenous Crimean Tatars by Soviet General Secretary Joseph Stalin during the Second World War. This contrasts with western and central Ukraine, which were historically ruled by a variety of powers, such as the PolishโLithuanian Commonwealth and the Austrian Empire. Between 2014 and 2022 Donetsk and Luhansk maintained being broken away from Ukraine until finally annexed by Russia. The background to the conflict is incredibly more complex than some will deceive you to believe. None of the above is propoganda, its common stuff you can read about on most western media which details the history. So going back to the initial point I quoted. I'm not sure which regions Putin is referencing but if its those which have already broken away then they don't want to be part of Ukraine. So why not just let them go and bring peace back to the area which would do the whole world a favour. Pretty sure over a year ago a similar proposition was made. Like I said it's much more complex than some portray or make out. All the above is freely available on Wikipedia to read too before some allege it is Russian propoganda. It's not, it's just historical context which some western media don't provide.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Jun 14, 2024 16:18:47 GMT
So he wants Ukraine to withdraw from Ukraine! Goes back further than the start of this conflict and back through to 2014 when the Euromaiden and revolution of dignity protests took place and president Viktor Yanukovych was ousted from government. What followed that was the "decommunization and de-Sovietization of the country" which resulted in statues removed, thousands of streets renamed, hundreds of cities renamed, political parties banned etc.. It was criticised by many groups including the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe, the European Commission for Democracy through Law, Kharkiv Human Rights Protection Group and many others on the following grounds: - Negatively impacts freedom of expression. - Lack of opportunity of civil society to participate in public discussions about the laws. - Criminalizes public expression of views held by many Ukrainians - Not complying with European legislative standards. - Making comparisons between political parties and Nazis (opposite ends of political spectrum). In addition to the above the Ukranian Parliament also then voted to abolish the law on language policies that had given the Russian, Romanian, and Hungarian languages the official status of regional languages in some areas. They also made ammendments to Law allowing them to appoint and dismiss judges in the supreme Court. And followed that by dismissing ministers and issuing arrest warrants for them. According to the European Commission for Democracy through Law "the role and functions of the Prosecutorโs Office is not in accordance with Council of Europe standards". Following the ousting of Yanukovych, pro-Russian, counter-revolutionary protests began in southern in eastern Ukraine. According to Cathy Young, in the Antimaidan protests against the revolution, street posters, Internet posts, and even speeches at rallies attacked the new government as a "Jewish clique" seeking to use Ukrainians to defend the interests of wealthy Jews, and depicted the revolution as a "Zionist coup." Thousands of people in Kharkiv, Donetsk, Simferopol, Odesa, Luhansk, Melitopol, Yevpatoria, Kerch, and Mariupol protested against the new government. Public surveys in April 2014 revealed that most people in Ukraine's eastern regions considered all levels of the government illegitimate. Half of respondents believed that President Turchynov was "illegally occupying his post". Roughly half held the same opinion about the central government led by Prime Minister Yatsenyuk. However, nearly 70% agreed that Yanukovych was also not the legal president of the country. After Euromaidan, eight former officials tied to Yanukovych's Party of Regions were found to have committed suicide. When Newsweek in summer 2015 approached the General Prosecutor's Office about the deaths, the office initially replied that all information about them was a state secret. As a result of the above a number of breakaway states in the South East were then formed: Donetsk People's Republic Luhansk People's Republic Republic of Crimea Other states tried to breakaway but failed; Novorossiya, Kharkiv People's Republic and Odesa People's Republic. In eastern and southern Ukraine, Russification and ethnic Russian settlement during centuries of Russian rule caused the Russian language to attain primacy, even amongst ethnic Ukrainians. In Crimea, ethnic Russians have comprised the majority of the population since the deportation of the indigenous Crimean Tatars by Soviet General Secretary Joseph Stalin during the Second World War. This contrasts with western and central Ukraine, which were historically ruled by a variety of powers, such as the PolishโLithuanian Commonwealth and the Austrian Empire. Between 2014 and 2022 Donetsk and Luhansk maintained being broken away from Ukraine until finally annexed by Russia. The background to the conflict is incredibly more complex than some will deceive you to believe. None of the above is propoganda, its common stuff you can read about on most western media which details the history. So going back to the initial point I quoted. I'm not sure which regions Putin is referencing but if its those which have already broken away then they don't want to be part of Ukraine. So why not just let them go and bring peace back to the area which would do the whole world a favour. Pretty sure over a year ago a similar proposition was made. Like I said it's much more complex than some portray or make out. All the above is freely available on Wikipedia to read too before some allege it is Russian propoganda. It's not, it's just historical context which some western media don't provide. I'm not trying to have a dig at you, but would you mind providing the link to the post you have copy and pasted here, so that I can judge the source please? The piece is clearly pro Russian, but that does not mean it should be disregarded out of hand.
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Post by Gawa on Jun 14, 2024 16:34:09 GMT
Goes back further than the start of this conflict and back through to 2014 when the Euromaiden and revolution of dignity protests took place and president Viktor Yanukovych was ousted from government. What followed that was the "decommunization and de-Sovietization of the country" which resulted in statues removed, thousands of streets renamed, hundreds of cities renamed, political parties banned etc.. It was criticised by many groups including the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe, the European Commission for Democracy through Law, Kharkiv Human Rights Protection Group and many others on the following grounds: - Negatively impacts freedom of expression. - Lack of opportunity of civil society to participate in public discussions about the laws. - Criminalizes public expression of views held by many Ukrainians - Not complying with European legislative standards. - Making comparisons between political parties and Nazis (opposite ends of political spectrum). In addition to the above the Ukranian Parliament also then voted to abolish the law on language policies that had given the Russian, Romanian, and Hungarian languages the official status of regional languages in some areas. They also made ammendments to Law allowing them to appoint and dismiss judges in the supreme Court. And followed that by dismissing ministers and issuing arrest warrants for them. According to the European Commission for Democracy through Law "the role and functions of the Prosecutorโs Office is not in accordance with Council of Europe standards". Following the ousting of Yanukovych, pro-Russian, counter-revolutionary protests began in southern in eastern Ukraine. According to Cathy Young, in the Antimaidan protests against the revolution, street posters, Internet posts, and even speeches at rallies attacked the new government as a "Jewish clique" seeking to use Ukrainians to defend the interests of wealthy Jews, and depicted the revolution as a "Zionist coup." Thousands of people in Kharkiv, Donetsk, Simferopol, Odesa, Luhansk, Melitopol, Yevpatoria, Kerch, and Mariupol protested against the new government. Public surveys in April 2014 revealed that most people in Ukraine's eastern regions considered all levels of the government illegitimate. Half of respondents believed that President Turchynov was "illegally occupying his post". Roughly half held the same opinion about the central government led by Prime Minister Yatsenyuk. However, nearly 70% agreed that Yanukovych was also not the legal president of the country. After Euromaidan, eight former officials tied to Yanukovych's Party of Regions were found to have committed suicide. When Newsweek in summer 2015 approached the General Prosecutor's Office about the deaths, the office initially replied that all information about them was a state secret. As a result of the above a number of breakaway states in the South East were then formed: Donetsk People's Republic Luhansk People's Republic Republic of Crimea Other states tried to breakaway but failed; Novorossiya, Kharkiv People's Republic and Odesa People's Republic. In eastern and southern Ukraine, Russification and ethnic Russian settlement during centuries of Russian rule caused the Russian language to attain primacy, even amongst ethnic Ukrainians. In Crimea, ethnic Russians have comprised the majority of the population since the deportation of the indigenous Crimean Tatars by Soviet General Secretary Joseph Stalin during the Second World War. This contrasts with western and central Ukraine, which were historically ruled by a variety of powers, such as the PolishโLithuanian Commonwealth and the Austrian Empire. Between 2014 and 2022 Donetsk and Luhansk maintained being broken away from Ukraine until finally annexed by Russia. The background to the conflict is incredibly more complex than some will deceive you to believe. None of the above is propoganda, its common stuff you can read about on most western media which details the history. So going back to the initial point I quoted. I'm not sure which regions Putin is referencing but if its those which have already broken away then they don't want to be part of Ukraine. So why not just let them go and bring peace back to the area which would do the whole world a favour. Pretty sure over a year ago a similar proposition was made. Like I said it's much more complex than some portray or make out. All the above is freely available on Wikipedia to read too before some allege it is Russian propoganda. It's not, it's just historical context which some western media don't provide. I'm not trying to have a dig at you, but would you mind providing the link to the post you have copy and pasted here, so that I can judge the source please? The piece is clearly pro Russian, but that does not mean it should be disregarded out of hand. All of it is from Wikipedia. Should also add this which is relevant too in my opinion as it highlights the long term corruption which exists within Ukraine long before 2014 "A Ukrainian Ministry of Justice survey of Ukrainians in 2009 revealed that only 10 percent of respondents trusted the national court system. Less than 30 percent believed that it was possible to receive a fair trial in Ukraine" Most of the above is from the below: en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Judiciary_of_Ukraineen.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donbasen.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian-occupied_territories_of_Ukraineen.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromaidanen.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignityen.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_pro-Russian_unrest_in_Ukraineen.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donetsk_People%27s_Republicen.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_background_of_the_2014_pro-Russian_unrest_in_UkraineThere are other links to but most are within those Wikipedia articles either linking to other wikis or referencing sources. I'm not pro Russia or pro Ukraine. I'm pro peace and balance.
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Post by mtrstudent on Jun 15, 2024 2:15:03 GMT
Putin has apparently offered a ceasefire if Ukraine withdraw from the occupied areas & drop their NATO bid. Putin's surrender demand includes handing over the cities of Zaporizhzhia and Kherson, a million people there alone. He clearly wants a chance to rearm so he can come back for the rest later, the arsenals and storage yards are beginning to look pretty bare.
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Post by mtrstudent on Jun 15, 2024 2:18:33 GMT
All of it is from Wikipedia. Should also add this which is relevant too in my opinion as it highlights the long term corruption which exists within Ukraine long before 2014 "A Ukrainian Ministry of Justice survey of Ukrainians in 2009 revealed that only 10 percent of respondents trusted the national court system. Less than 30 percent believed that it was possible to receive a fair trial in Ukraine" Most of the above is from the below: ... I'm not pro Russia or pro Ukraine. I'm pro peace and balance. As I said elsewhere, Ukraine has problems but when it's presented in an unbalanced way I think the argument is "people in Ukraine reported corruption...so we should be fine with letting a dictatorship conquer and genocide t+hem". We know the Crimea, Donetsk and Luhansk takeovers in 2014 were russian ops, run in coordination with russian agents and using the russian military. None of that is ok. Now Ukrainians are in basements right now being tortured if they're in occupied territory and dare speak up about it. I hate that and I oppose it.
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Post by mtrstudent on Jun 15, 2024 2:20:21 GMT
I'm sure the Democrats could have done some things better, but there is not a chance they are "equally culpable". The Republicans are deliberately trying to turn the war in favour of the Russians. For me, there is night and day between the actions of the two parties on this subject. Why would the Republicans do that? I can understand that they don't want to spend money on a war that doesn't involve them but to actively want Putin to win is a dangerous path to go down. If Russia wins this war the world will be a much more dangerous place. I think MAG republicans want the US to look more like Putin's Russia. They see Putin as a natural ally in terms of morality, social ideals etc. They're enemies of liberal democracy, want a "strong man" dictator at home etc. Plus russian intelligence supports their election campaigns. Ukraine beating Putin is pretty humiliating to the MAGA worldview.
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Post by mtrstudent on Jun 15, 2024 2:23:11 GMT
Ukraine did a drone attack on an airbase. Satellite photos show damage... It looks like two bombers in a hangar got damaged. Up to 5 others could have been hit but maybe they got moved before the hits...
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Post by mtrstudent on Jun 15, 2024 3:16:48 GMT
Good boys
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2024 10:08:55 GMT
I'm sure the Democrats could have done some things better, but there is not a chance they are "equally culpable". The Republicans are deliberately trying to turn the war in favour of the Russians. For me, there is night and day between the actions of the two parties on this subject. Why would the Republicans do that? I can understand that they don't want to spend money on a war that doesn't involve them but to actively want Putin to win is a dangerous path to go down. If Russia wins this war the world will be a much more dangerous place. Because it looks good for Trump if Biden canโt help to crush Russia with military aid. Republicans are all pro-military. That is until they obstruct senior promotions to get favors for what they want instead, leaving the US vulnerable: apnews.com/article/tuberville-military-holds-senate-officers-45c4230a8aee5222bf32b43823e29accThey are anti-immigration, unless of course itโs a win for Biden in an election year: www.brookings.edu/articles/the-collapse-of-bipartisan-immigration-reform-a-guide-for-the-perplexed/They are a pathetic, little party consumed with their lust for power. Their two main causes simply exposed as bullshit in the above.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2024 10:09:39 GMT
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Post by Gawa on Jun 15, 2024 12:50:54 GMT
All of it is from Wikipedia. Should also add this which is relevant too in my opinion as it highlights the long term corruption which exists within Ukraine long before 2014 "A Ukrainian Ministry of Justice survey of Ukrainians in 2009 revealed that only 10 percent of respondents trusted the national court system. Less than 30 percent believed that it was possible to receive a fair trial in Ukraine" Most of the above is from the below: ... I'm not pro Russia or pro Ukraine. I'm pro peace and balance. As I said elsewhere, Ukraine has problems but when it's presented in an unbalanced way I think the argument is "people in Ukraine reported corruption...so we should be fine with letting a dictatorship conquer and genocide t+hem". We know the Crimea, Donetsk and Luhansk takeovers in 2014 were russian ops, run in coordination with russian agents and using the russian military. None of that is ok. Now Ukrainians are in basements right now being tortured if they're in occupied territory and dare speak up about it. I hate that and I oppose it. We don't get that balance or historical context though unless we look for it. The response to Israel conflict wasn't handled the best either by the west. But people were more educated on the history there and thus the discontent has forced the west to change their tune. So personally I cannot just listen to one side and trust them to tell the truth when in other recent conflicts they haven't. 3 truths. Theirs, ours and the truth. The stuff I posted was mostly from Wikipedia and I feel is important context which many in the west aren't aware of. Alot of it was new to me because I went looking for more background as I feel alot of our media has under reported that since 2022.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 15, 2024 15:42:49 GMT
More T-62โs are getting destroyed and more are arriving. Pure desperation from Russia that the losses of these tanks from the 60s are getting higher and higher.
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Post by mtrstudent on Jun 15, 2024 15:49:18 GMT
Czech shells finally arriving in good numbers. They say they expect 1 million this year.
If that's true then fantastic. Europeans factories are spinning up quickly, and US aid is flowing again too.
The North Korean deliveries to Russia have apparently reached up to 5 million shells, which sucks but I think 1 million from the Czechs would be used better.
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Post by musik on Jun 15, 2024 23:31:27 GMT
A Russian military attacking aeroplane has flown over Sweden. We sent up two JAS planes of our own. The tried to communicate with the russians but without success.
It's provocative according to our Prime minister so we will have discussions with the Russian Embassy here.
Not long ago a Russian spy ship was in a harbour on the east coast a long period, under flag from Cyprus.
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Post by steve66 on Jun 15, 2024 23:46:49 GMT
A Russian military attacking aeroplane has flown over Sweden. We sent up two JAS planes of our own. The tried to communicate with the russians but without success. It's provocative according to our Prime minister so we will have discussions with the Russian Embassy here. Not long ago a Russian spy ship was in a harbour on the east coast a long period, under flag from Cyprus. Should of shot the fucker down under the guise of a training exercise
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Post by mtrstudent on Jun 16, 2024 0:01:32 GMT
A Russian military attacking aeroplane has flown over Sweden. We sent up two JAS planes of our own. The tried to communicate with the russians but without success. It's provocative according to our Prime minister so we will have discussions with the Russian Embassy here. Not long ago a Russian spy ship was in a harbour on the east coast a long period, under flag from Cyprus. Should of shot the fucker down under the guise of a training exercise Back in 2015, Turkey shot down the russian jet that screwed with them. Russia squealed a lot then made sure not to do it again.
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