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Post by cheadlepotter on Feb 22, 2022 7:24:44 GMT
Let’s see what sanctions are brought to bear. One of the first should be sporting sanctions. For a start, the 2022 Champions League final should be moved from St Petersburg. And this should be followed up by a ban on all Russian teams in European football competitions. Start with that then a full expulsion from all international sport. Speaking of sport, I think FIFA will be thanking their lucky stars Russia weren't drawn with Ukraine in the qualification play-offs. We could've been looking at a Russia v Ukraine match in Moscow to go to the World Cup. Would've been...erm...interesting. For political reasons, matches between Russia and Ukraine were considered prohibited clashes, unable to be drawn into the same play-off path.[9] Armenia / Azerbaijan, Gibraltar / Spain, Kosovo / Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo / Serbia and Kosovo / Russia were also identified as prohibited clashes, but one or both of the teams did not advance to the play-offs. Wikipedia
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Feb 22, 2022 7:26:52 GMT
Speaking of sport, I think FIFA will be thanking their lucky stars Russia weren't drawn with Ukraine in the qualification play-offs. We could've been looking at a Russia v Ukraine match in Moscow to go to the World Cup. Would've been...erm...interesting. For political reasons, matches between Russia and Ukraine were considered prohibited clashes, unable to be drawn into the same play-off path.[9] Armenia / Azerbaijan, Gibraltar / Spain, Kosovo / Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo / Serbia and Kosovo / Russia were also identified as prohibited clashes, but one or both of the teams did not advance to the play-offs. Wikipedia Seems they were ahead of the game on that one. Thanks for that. Kosovo's choice of opponents seems somewhat limited!
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Post by thevoid on Feb 22, 2022 7:37:22 GMT
Speaking of sport, I think FIFA will be thanking their lucky stars Russia weren't drawn with Ukraine in the qualification play-offs. We could've been looking at a Russia v Ukraine match in Moscow to go to the World Cup. Would've been...erm...interesting. For political reasons, matches between Russia and Ukraine were considered prohibited clashes, unable to be drawn into the same play-off path.[9] Armenia / Azerbaijan, Gibraltar / Spain, Kosovo / Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo / Serbia and Kosovo / Russia were also identified as prohibited clashes, but one or both of the teams did not advance to the play-offs. Wikipedia Kosovo v Bosnia/Serbia I can understand but why Russia?
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 22, 2022 7:39:29 GMT
Let’s see what sanctions are brought to bear. One of the first should be sporting sanctions. For a start, the 2022 Champions League final should be moved from St Petersburg. And this should be followed up by a ban on all Russian teams in European football competitions. Start with that then a full expulsion from all international sport. and Russian owned clubs. It’ll be interesting to see what stance is taken on Abramovic. He recently became a citizen of Portugal so I expect he will be fine.
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 22, 2022 8:52:00 GMT
This image from the BBC helps explains why the situation in the Ukraine could get hot very quickly... When Russia says it recognises the two "independent states" of Donetsk and Luhansk does it mean the territory currently under the control of the "separatists" or the wider area. From what I've seen this morning it is the latter, which will certainly mean serious armed conflict as Russia will be moving into territory currently controlled by Ukranian forces.
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Post by foster on Feb 22, 2022 9:00:24 GMT
Let’s see what sanctions are brought to bear. One of the first should be sporting sanctions. For a start, the 2022 Champions League final should be moved from St Petersburg. And this should be followed up by a ban on all Russian teams in European football competitions. Start with that then a full expulsion from all international sport. Is that it? Even for a 'start' that's pitiful. Ban/Exclude them from everything as of now simply for all the disruption they're causing. As for Sanctions, I don't see them being very effective against Russia. Unless there's some physical military support the Ukrainians are going to get fucked over and won't forgive the west for letting it happen.
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Post by cheadlepotter on Feb 22, 2022 9:01:19 GMT
For political reasons, matches between Russia and Ukraine were considered prohibited clashes, unable to be drawn into the same play-off path.[9] Armenia / Azerbaijan, Gibraltar / Spain, Kosovo / Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo / Serbia and Kosovo / Russia were also identified as prohibited clashes, but one or both of the teams did not advance to the play-offs. Wikipedia Kosovo v Bosnia/Serbia I can understand but why Russia? Uefa will not allow Russia and Kosovo to meet in European competitions because of "security risks". Russia has not recognised Kosovo as an independent country since it declared independence from Serbia in 2008. From the BBC. There will be nobody left for Russia to play soon!
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 22, 2022 9:09:20 GMT
Let’s see what sanctions are brought to bear. One of the first should be sporting sanctions. For a start, the 2022 Champions League final should be moved from St Petersburg. And this should be followed up by a ban on all Russian teams in European football competitions. Start with that then a full expulsion from all international sport. Lets hope they don't follow the Olympic Committee then. They'll make Zenit St Petersburg change their name to St Petersburg Zenit and let them crack on regardless.......
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 22, 2022 9:16:03 GMT
This image from the BBC helps explains why the situation in the Ukraine could get hot very quickly... When Russia says it recognises the two "independent states" of Donetsk and Luhansk does it mean the territory currently under the control of the "separatists" or the wider area. From what I've seen this morning it is the latter, which will certainly mean serious armed conflict as Russia will be moving into territory currently controlled by Ukranian forces. That was always going to be the hotspot, not places like Kiev but the areas within the highlighted territory that aren't controlled by Russian separatists. Putin will be hoping for a Crimea situation where people fled leaving the remaining citizens to declare unilateral support for independence, it of course won't be that simple this time.........
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 22, 2022 9:25:34 GMT
Well, I think after years of divide in the West, hopefully this is a subject we can all agree on - Supporting our Ukrainian brothers and sisters against an evil, murdering dictator.
Spare a thought for the heroic civilians who are going to be taking up arms.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 22, 2022 9:33:06 GMT
Also worth sparing a thought for those young Russian soldiers who will be going back over the border in bodybags, forced to fight a completely illegal, bloody and unnecessary war in the name of supporting a mad man's deranged ambition. Its going to be a tragedy all round.
There is no winner in war.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 22, 2022 10:13:53 GMT
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 22, 2022 10:34:12 GMT
God bless Vladimir Putin. A force for all that is good and right in the world.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 22, 2022 10:37:53 GMT
God bless Vladimir Putin. A force for all that is good and right in the world. Weird take.
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 22, 2022 10:41:45 GMT
Also worth sparing a thought for those young Russian soldiers who will be going back over the border in bodybags, forced to fight a completely illegal, bloody and unnecessary war in the name of supporting a mad man's deranged ambition. Its going to be a tragedy all round. There is no winner in war. The average Russian has never had far to look for misfortune… from the Tzars to the Bolsheviks and now to Putin. From the Okhrana through the Cheka, the NKVD, the KGB and the FSB. They are simply fodder. Objects to be used at the whim of the top man. No wonder vodka consumption is so high.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 22, 2022 10:52:38 GMT
Where did it all go wrong?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 22, 2022 10:56:10 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 22, 2022 11:00:23 GMT
Also worth sparing a thought for those young Russian soldiers who will be going back over the border in bodybags, forced to fight a completely illegal, bloody and unnecessary war in the name of supporting a mad man's deranged ambition. Its going to be a tragedy all round. There is no winner in war. The average Russian has never had far to look for misfortune… from the Tzars to the Bolsheviks and now to Putin. From the Okhrana through the Cheka, the NKVD, the KGB and the FSB. They are simply fodder. Objects to be used at the whim of the top man. No wonder vodka consumption is so high. Stay safe.....
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Feb 22, 2022 11:06:35 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 22, 2022 11:15:38 GMT
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Post by mrcoke on Feb 22, 2022 11:30:47 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 22, 2022 11:33:23 GMT
The Germans finally grew some balls about this whole thing. Time for Boris to do the same now.
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Post by Gob Bluth on Feb 22, 2022 11:33:34 GMT
It's a commendable stance for Zelenskyy to take to say there will be no war in Ukraine but I hope in the background he's getting the backing of the West to agree troops on the ground OR he has a plan if Putin decides to push west.
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 22, 2022 11:40:16 GMT
The President of france and chancellor of Germany expressed their disappointment I bet that had putin quaking
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Post by Gob Bluth on Feb 22, 2022 11:46:59 GMT
Rumoured to be Russian troops in Belarus:
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Post by Gob Bluth on Feb 22, 2022 11:58:23 GMT
I know Bellingcat isn't always the most reliable but some very interesting analysis on some of the content put out by Russia:
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 22, 2022 12:00:33 GMT
The Germans finally grew some balls about this whole thing. Time for Boris to do the same now. The West:
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 22, 2022 12:03:57 GMT
The Germans finally grew some balls about this whole thing. Time for Boris to do the same now. The West: It's fucking pathetic. Like the poisonings in Salisbury. It was an act of war imo. Yet nothing was done. Nevermind all of the other shit.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2022 12:25:58 GMT
I wouldn't invade...it's rubbish. The women are really tall and look like Harry Kane with knockers. Also their chocolate sucks. Try getting a Bouble Decker or a Walnut Whip there.
Stay in Russia is my advice.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 22, 2022 12:29:56 GMT
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