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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 21, 2022 21:27:44 GMT
The response should be the rolling in of sanctions But I shan’t hold my breath that the West have the bollocks It’s no great surprise. But still extremely worrying. Putin wants to put right the wrongs he feels were done to Russia after the breakup of the USSR. He doesn’t care a hoot what the countries involved think, or what international law says. The west need to hit him hard, because this isn’t the end of his ambitions. I suspect that not much will happen providing they stick to the two regions they’ve just recognised. The US first response is as underwhelming as you might have expected. Putin behaving pretty much as Hitler behaved in the 30s. Taking the piss. As I said a little bit further up on the thread if he stays East of the Dnieper I think the response will be much more bark than bite..........
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 21, 2022 21:31:47 GMT
Good old Nige, he’s always right😉 I must say the mask has slipped this week, firstly the the support of Putin followed by searching out Big Nigel’s best videos. You’ll be watching “Talking Pints” next. Thursday 8pm, don’t miss it👍🏻 I stumbled across it on Twitter. I think it’s Farage being accused of being a Putin supporter right now though in fairness he’ll just follow the highest bidder……. As I said, he’s always right. Hindsight excluded of course😉
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 21, 2022 21:35:48 GMT
It’s no great surprise. But still extremely worrying. Putin wants to put right the wrongs he feels were done to Russia after the breakup of the USSR. He doesn’t care a hoot what the countries involved think, or what international law says. The west need to hit him hard, because this isn’t the end of his ambitions. I suspect that not much will happen providing they stick to the two regions they’ve just recognised. The US first response is as underwhelming as you might have expected. Putin behaving pretty much as Hitler behaved in the 30s. Taking the piss. As I said a little bit further up on the thread if he stays East of the Dnieper I think the response will be much more bark than bite.......... I saw that, but seeing as the Dnieper runs through Kiev I’m rather alarmed at the prospect of that forming the western limits of Putin’s territorial ambitions. Anyway, maybe we can agree now that Putin is a cunt. A very dangerous cunt at that.
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 21, 2022 21:37:06 GMT
I stumbled across it on Twitter. I think it’s Farage being accused of being a Putin supporter right now though in fairness he’ll just follow the highest bidder……. As I said, he’s always right. Hindsight excluded of course😉 Do you think he’s pitching for a gig on Russia Today. Him and Alex Salmond would make a fine double act.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 21, 2022 21:40:01 GMT
As I said, he’s always right. Hindsight excluded of course😉 Do you think he’s pitching for a gig on Russia Today. Him and Alex Salmond would make a fine double act. I wouldn’t put it past him. A man of many talents. Although I think even Nige would stop at the thought of working with Salmond
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 21, 2022 21:50:36 GMT
Putin's going to rapidly start losing diplomatic leverage if he continues to outright lie and ignore reality. This stuff about genocide and Ukraine "not being a true state" is totally unfounded and unhinged. He's completely losing the plot and Im starting to think for the first time he's actually going to invade. Be fascinating to see legitimate Russian polling on Putin invading Ukraine. Clearly we will never see that but I imagine there are a lot of very angry, scared and bemused Russians both in Russia and in London right now. No one of moral standing can support this madness. He's consistently described Ukraine as not a state, not a country for years In much the same way he's murdered and arrested opposition for years.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 21, 2022 21:51:55 GMT
The response should be the rolling in of sanctions But I shan’t hold my breath that the West have the bollocks It’s no great surprise. But still extremely worrying. Putin wants to put right the wrongs he feels were done to Russia after the breakup of the USSR. He doesn’t care a hoot what the countries involved think, or what international law says. The west need to hit him hard, because this isn’t the end of his ambitions. I suspect that not much will happen providing they stick to the two regions they’ve just recognised. The US first response is as underwhelming as you might have expected. Putin behaving pretty much as Hitler behaved in the 30s. Taking the piss. Indeed.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 21, 2022 22:01:27 GMT
As I said a little bit further up on the thread if he stays East of the Dnieper I think the response will be much more bark than bite.......... I saw that, but seeing as the Dnieper runs through Kiev I’m rather alarmed at the prospect of that forming the western limits of Putin’s territorial ambitions. Anyway, maybe we can agree now that Putin is a cunt. A very dangerous cunt at that. I think Dnipro is the closest city west of the Donetsk and Luhansk so certainly no further than that to clarify. And I've always though Putin to be a cunt, and he always will be unfortunately........
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 21, 2022 22:06:46 GMT
I saw that, but seeing as the Dnieper runs through Kiev I’m rather alarmed at the prospect of that forming the western limits of Putin’s territorial ambitions. Anyway, maybe we can agree now that Putin is a cunt. A very dangerous cunt at that. I think Dnipro is the closest city west of the Donetsk and Luhansk so certainly no further than that to clarify. And I've always though Putin to be a cunt, and he always will be unfortunately........ Next week on Talking Pints, Vladimir Putin drops in to the GB News pub for a chinwag about alien life form. He’ll be trying salted caramel IPA for the first time. Don’t miss it!
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Post by scfcno1fan on Feb 21, 2022 22:07:05 GMT
80 years was a long time without a big European conflict.
Will sanctions be enough to deter Vlad?
I sincerely doubt it.
Very concerning times ahead.
Russias ally’s do seem to be staying quiet for now, which is one positive.
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Post by yyy on Feb 21, 2022 22:09:46 GMT
80 years was a long time without a big European conflict. Will sanctions be enough to deter Vlad? I sincerely doubt it. Very concerning times ahead. Russias ally’s do seem to be staying quiet for now, which is one positive. 'The pioneers of a warless world are those that refuse military service' ... Great quote I saw I've never forgot
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Post by flea79 on Feb 21, 2022 22:24:39 GMT
I suggest we change the title of this thread….
Sadly a short but bloody conflict now seems inevitable.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 21, 2022 22:35:51 GMT
When do the Olympics end? Wouldn't be surprised if an invasion happened shortly afterwards. Predictable. Probably arranged the timing with Beijing so as not to piss on their Olympics. Come on Bozo, find your moral compass (as if), apply tough sanctions across all Russian banks and individuals' assets in the UK and get Londongrad squealing to Putin in Moscow that they don't like it. Forget those party donations and do the right thing for once in your life.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 21, 2022 22:38:29 GMT
When do the Olympics end? Wouldn't be surprised if an invasion happened shortly afterwards. Predictable. Probably arranged the timing with Beijing so as not to piss on their Olympics. Come on Bozo, find your moral compass (as if), apply tough sanctions across all Russian banks and individuals' assets in the UK and get Londongrad squealing to Putin in Moscow that they don't like it. Forget those party donations and do the right thing for once in your life. He won't. He's weak and Putin owns him.
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Post by andystokey on Feb 21, 2022 22:40:36 GMT
We should be doing some of our own Nato exercises along the Polish border near Belarus. That idiot Lukashenko needs to realise he is only the fat spotty mate of the pub bully. The current policy is interpreted only as weakness by Russia.
Perhaps Mr Putin needs to see what sharing a border with a Nato country will look like if he decides to go into Ukraine. He thinks that small token nibbles will go without impact. He's really not a big time gambler.
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Post by Boothen on Feb 21, 2022 22:40:38 GMT
Ukraine have a really big decision to make now. Do they sit back and allow Russia free reign to steal even more of their country or do they get stuck into the invading army and risk the entire country getting steamrolled?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 21, 2022 22:42:10 GMT
Predictable. Probably arranged the timing with Beijing so as not to piss on their Olympics. Come on Bozo, find your moral compass (as if), apply tough sanctions across all Russian banks and individuals' assets in the UK and get Londongrad squealing to Putin in Moscow that they don't like it. Forget those party donations and do the right thing for once in your life. He won't. He's weak and Putin owns him. I doubt whether Putin gives a moment's thought to him. But I suspect Bozo will be more worried about party donations from Russian oligarchs drying up than the fate of Ukraine.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 21, 2022 22:44:01 GMT
Ukraine have a really big decision to make now. Do they sit back and allow Russia free reign to steal even more of their country or do they get stuck into the invading army and risk the entire country getting steamrolled? Tough call. Imagine the headfuck for Putin if Ukraine launched an offensive on Moscow 😅
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 21, 2022 22:45:29 GMT
He won't. He's weak and Putin owns him. I doubt whether Putin gives a moment's thought to him. But I suspect Bozo will be more worried about party donations from Russian oligarchs drying up than the fate of Ukraine. Plus the kompromat from the wild party he went to when he was Foreign Secretary.
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Post by hammered on Feb 21, 2022 22:58:31 GMT
Well it looks like Putin's moved by sending a peacekeeping force into the breakaway regions after getting agreement from their leaders in response to Ukraine's NATO sponsored proxy war..
He's called the bluff of the west....bafoon Biden (and the NWO) next move
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 21, 2022 23:09:55 GMT
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Post by superjw on Feb 21, 2022 23:18:53 GMT
Well it looks like Putin's moved by sending a peacekeeping force into the breakaway regions after getting agreement from their leaders in response to Ukraine's NATO sponsored proxy war.. He's called the bluff of the west....bafoon Biden (and the NWO) next move A "peacekeeping" force
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 21, 2022 23:51:44 GMT
Well it looks like Putin's moved by sending a peacekeeping force into the breakaway regions after getting agreement from their leaders in response to Ukraine's NATO sponsored proxy war.. He's called the bluff of the west....bafoon Biden (and the NWO) next move A "peacekeeping" force Yeah let’s call it what it is, an invasion. He’s called no one’s bluff either has he? They’ve been saying he’ll do it for weeks.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Feb 22, 2022 6:41:34 GMT
Well it looks like Putin's moved by sending a peacekeeping force into the breakaway regions after getting agreement from their leaders in response to Ukraine's NATO sponsored proxy war.. He's called the bluff of the west....bafoon Biden (and the NWO) next move For a post that only contains two sentences, you've done incredibly well to get so much wrong. There is no "peacekeeping force". I don't know who "their leaders" are supposed to be. There is no "NATO sponsored proxy war". He hasn't called anyone's bluff - the NATO countries have been saying for at least two weeks that an invasion was imminent. I'm not sure Biden is part of the NWO - I don't think he'd fit in with Hulk Hogan, Scott Hall and Kevin Nash. Apart from that, you're spot on.
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 22, 2022 6:45:22 GMT
Yeah let’s call it what it is, an invasion. He’s called no one’s bluff either has he? They’ve been saying he’ll do it for weeks. He’s been intending to do this since 2014.
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 22, 2022 6:47:54 GMT
Well it looks like Putin's moved by sending a peacekeeping force into the breakaway regions after getting agreement from their leaders in response to Ukraine's NATO sponsored proxy war.. He's called the bluff of the west....bafoon Biden (and the NWO) next move For a post that only contains two sentences, you've done incredibly well to get so much wrong. There is no "peacekeeping force". I don't know who "their leaders" are supposed to be. There is no "NATO sponsored proxy war". He hasn't called anyone's bluff - the NATO countries have been saying for at least two weeks that an invasion was imminent. I'm not sure Biden is part of the NWO - I don't think he'd fit in with Hulk Hogan, Scott Hall and Kevin Nash. Apart from that, you're spot on. Not quite. He can’t spell buffoon correctly.
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 22, 2022 6:58:32 GMT
Let’s see what sanctions are brought to bear.
One of the first should be sporting sanctions.
For a start, the 2022 Champions League final should be moved from St Petersburg.
And this should be followed up by a ban on all Russian teams in European football competitions.
Start with that then a full expulsion from all international sport.
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Post by lordb on Feb 22, 2022 7:06:14 GMT
What does putting our foot down look like? Well they could impose the full range of sanctions they’ve spoken about so often as a start. What Putin has just done has broken international law. The build up of troops on the border for weeks has been a clear show of intent. It shouldn’t need a ‘Russian toecap on Ukrainian soil’ before action is taken. He’s broken the law and is clearly warmongering, so no action is not an option. What would you suggest? I think Putin holds the cards
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Feb 22, 2022 7:08:02 GMT
Let’s see what sanctions are brought to bear. One of the first should be sporting sanctions. For a start, the 2022 Champions League final should be moved from St Petersburg. And this should be followed up by a ban on all Russian teams in European football competitions. Start with that then a full expulsion from all international sport. Speaking of sport, I think FIFA will be thanking their lucky stars Russia weren't drawn with Ukraine in the qualification play-offs. We could've been looking at a Russia v Ukraine match in Moscow to go to the World Cup. Would've been...erm...interesting.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 22, 2022 7:18:11 GMT
Let’s see what sanctions are brought to bear. One of the first should be sporting sanctions. For a start, the 2022 Champions League final should be moved from St Petersburg. And this should be followed up by a ban on all Russian teams in European football competitions. Start with that then a full expulsion from all international sport. and Russian owned clubs. It’ll be interesting to see what stance is taken on Abramovic.
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