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Post by Gawa on Sept 5, 2022 17:25:29 GMT
Hope she goes through with her tax cuts. I'll do alright out of it.
Don't worry Audlempotter I'll get you a Yankee candle with my money to keep you warm and give you a bit of light. Don't think she plans to increase benefits for you pal.
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Sept 5, 2022 17:40:55 GMT
I spreak for more Brits than you do 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I look forward to you burning down the Reichstag my friend. That's nearly as brilliant as Miss Trust yesterday suggesting that removal of the NI increase was fair because it targetted the rich more than the poor. Bravo 👏 👏 👏 Yada yada yada |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Sept 5, 2022 17:41:21 GMT
If you wouldn’t mind, please could you explain how proportional representation works? Like how it affects an election during or after the event? I can’t get my head round it. I understand that say if a party won 40% of the votes, perfect proportional representation would mean that they’d have 40% of the seats in parliament, but I don’t understand how that would be achievable, like who the 40% of the MPs would be? Other than by slicing the country into exactly the same population size pieces. You're not a million miles off in its purest terms. We currently have FPTP in (small) parliamentary constituencies that demands a singular majority winner. Which is why you will see regular examples of 33% vote share returning an MP for a specific party (or independent in some circumstances). Therefore in this example 66% of the votes cast did not go for the representative and in our current climate benefits the Conservative party due to the Lib/Lab split and latterly the Brexit Party diluting the vote. Proportional Representation demands a plurality or multiple winners. Realistically it would work on regions (could be nationally) as opposed to small individual constituencies with lists drawn up of representatives from each party. Then, based on the votes cast seats would be shared in proportion to thd percentage each party got. How the lists are determined goes off in different directions, party to decide, further public votes etc... Ironically, UKIP in 2015 would have benefitted massively from it where 4m votes returned 1 MP, wheres a proportional system would have been around 80. www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32601281.ampUltimately, for those living in safe seats for parties they dont agree with it would give more weight to their vote. Nothing ironic about it fella. Both UKIP and Farridge (whichever party he's involved with these days) are advocates of PR. And on that - if not much else - I'm in agreement with them. |
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Sept 5, 2022 17:41:55 GMT
Hope she goes through with her tax cuts. I'll do alright out of it. Don't worry Audlempotter I'll get you a Yankee candle with my money to keep you warm and give you a bit of light. Don't think she plans to increase benefits for you pal. Money isn't an issue for me mate it won't affect me 😁 You might be going to a food bank on Christmas day but that sounds like a you problem 😁 |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 5, 2022 17:42:28 GMT
You're not a million miles off in its purest terms. We currently have FPTP in (small) parliamentary constituencies that demands a singular majority winner. Which is why you will see regular examples of 33% vote share returning an MP for a specific party (or independent in some circumstances). Therefore in this example 66% of the votes cast did not go for the representative and in our current climate benefits the Conservative party due to the Lib/Lab split and latterly the Brexit Party diluting the vote. Proportional Representation demands a plurality or multiple winners. Realistically it would work on regions (could be nationally) as opposed to small individual constituencies with lists drawn up of representatives from each party. Then, based on the votes cast seats would be shared in proportion to thd percentage each party got. How the lists are determined goes off in different directions, party to decide, further public votes etc... Ironically, UKIP in 2015 would have benefitted massively from it where 4m votes returned 1 MP, wheres a proportional system would have been around 80. www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32601281.ampUltimately, for those living in safe seats for parties they dont agree with it would give more weight to their vote. Nothing ironic about it fella. Both UKIP and Farridge (whichever party he's involved with these days) are advocates of PR. And on that - if not much else - I'm in agreement with them. Big Nige to you Beaver😉 |
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Sept 5, 2022 17:42:33 GMT
I agree . But we don't adhere to your wokey views neither. Have that Oh no. Am I a wokey, too? 😅 Whatever you do, don't tell Prestwich and I suppose I'll have to get upset with Joe Lycett now as well, damn. Oh most definitely you are 😅 |
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Post by andystokey on Sept 5, 2022 17:44:38 GMT
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I look forward to you burning down the Reichstag my friend. That's nearly as brilliant as Miss Trust yesterday suggesting that removal of the NI increase was fair because it targetted the rich more than the poor. Bravo 👏 👏 👏 Yada yada yada I suppose its one more word than usual. |
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Sept 5, 2022 17:45:37 GMT
I suppose its one more word than usual. Yada wokey wokey yada yada 😁 |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Sept 5, 2022 17:47:24 GMT
Nothing ironic about it fella. Both UKIP and Farridge (whichever party he's involved with these days) are advocates of PR. And on that - if not much else - I'm in agreement with them. Big Nige to you Beaver😉 'Big' Nige is all of 5 foot 8. Admittedly quite tall by usual political nutjob standards (Putin, Mussolini, Hitler Berlusconi, Sarkozy etc). Until Trump went and broke the mould that is. |
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Post by andystokey on Sept 5, 2022 17:52:04 GMT
I suppose its one more word than usual. Yada wokey wokey yada yada 😁 This is why you speak for more Brits than I do. It's a compelling point of view, I can see the appeal over my specious point of view now you've explained it 😎 |
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Post by yeswilko on Sept 5, 2022 17:52:21 GMT
Hope she goes through with her tax cuts. I'll do alright out of it. Don't worry Audlempotter I'll get you a Yankee candle with my money to keep you warm and give you a bit of light. Don't think she plans to increase benefits for you pal. Money isn't an issue for me mate it won't affect me 😁 You might be going to a food bank on Christmas day but that sounds like a you problem 😁 Did you move to Spain in the end Crappy? |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 5, 2022 17:53:23 GMT
Money isn't an issue for me mate it won't affect me 😁 You might be going to a food bank on Christmas day but that sounds like a you problem 😁 Did you move to Spain in the end Crappy? Pot, kettle, black n all that….. |
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Sept 5, 2022 17:54:18 GMT
Yada wokey wokey yada yada 😁 This is why you speak for more Brits than I do. It's a compelling point of view, I can see the appeal over my specious point of view now you've explained it 😎 The point is mate I speak for myself and so do you. Don't for one second think that your wokey views are normal and represent the UK because they definitely don't |
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Post by Gawa on Sept 5, 2022 17:54:22 GMT
Hope she goes through with her tax cuts. I'll do alright out of it. Don't worry Audlempotter I'll get you a Yankee candle with my money to keep you warm and give you a bit of light. Don't think she plans to increase benefits for you pal. Money isn't an issue for me mate it won't affect me 😁 You might be going to a food bank on Christmas day but that sounds like a you problem 😁 Thank fuck for the tories eh. I believe in the 12th year of Labour's leadership 25k food parcels were handed out. For the conservatives that number is 2,537,198. Glad to see you're supportive of socialism though  |
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Post by Gawa on Sept 5, 2022 17:56:25 GMT
How do you feel about our new prime minister stating she wants to make gender identification a "kinder and more straight forward process" Audlempotter?
Is that not what a woke leftie soy boy would say?
Oh dear.
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Sept 5, 2022 17:57:16 GMT
Money isn't an issue for me mate it won't affect me 😁 You might be going to a food bank on Christmas day but that sounds like a you problem 😁 Thank fuck for the tories eh. I believe in the 12th year of Labour's leadership 25k food parcels were handed out. For the conservatives that number is 2,537,198. Glad to see you're supportive of socialism though I don't mind some socialist policies. It's all about balance and common sense . Defo a no no from me when it comes to wokery though 😉 |
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Post by andystokey on Sept 5, 2022 17:57:56 GMT
This is why you speak for more Brits than I do. It's a compelling point of view, I can see the appeal over my specious point of view now you've explained it 😎 The point is mate I speak for myself and so do you. Don't for one second think that your wokey views are normal and represent the UK but they define don't Go find me a quote of mine that you call "wokey" so we all understand what upsets you. I don't think you know yourself anymore. |
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Sept 5, 2022 17:58:55 GMT
How do you feel about our new prime minister stating she wants to make gender identification a "kinder and more straight forward process" Audlempotter? Is that not what a woke leftie soy boy would say? Oh dear. Sounds to me like you think I support the Tories even though I have said I don't and that I think the Tories are shit . Oh dear 😳 |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Sept 5, 2022 18:04:21 GMT
This thread is making for some really entertaining reading today. Keep it going boys and girls👍🏻 Well stop clogging it up then 😉 |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Sept 5, 2022 18:04:56 GMT
Yada wokey wokey yada yada 😁 This is why you speak for more Brits than I do. It's a compelling point of view, I can see the appeal over my specious point of view now you've explained it 😎 Even better if you do it to the Kolo Toure chant. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 5, 2022 18:06:19 GMT
This thread is making for some really entertaining reading today. Keep it going boys and girls👍🏻 Well stop clogging it up then 😉 Will do, apologies for any offence caused. As you were👍🏻 |
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Post by Gawa on Sept 5, 2022 18:07:02 GMT
How do you feel about our new prime minister stating she wants to make gender identification a "kinder and more straight forward process" Audlempotter? Is that not what a woke leftie soy boy would say? Oh dear. Sounds to me like you think I support the Tories even though I have said I don't and that I think the Tories are shit . Oh dear 😳 Who do you support then? I thought Britain First left politics. Are they still going? |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Sept 5, 2022 18:07:55 GMT
You're not a million miles off in its purest terms. We currently have FPTP in (small) parliamentary constituencies that demands a singular majority winner. Which is why you will see regular examples of 33% vote share returning an MP for a specific party (or independent in some circumstances). Therefore in this example 66% of the votes cast did not go for the representative and in our current climate benefits the Conservative party due to the Lib/Lab split and latterly the Brexit Party diluting the vote. Proportional Representation demands a plurality or multiple winners. Realistically it would work on regions (could be nationally) as opposed to small individual constituencies with lists drawn up of representatives from each party. Then, based on the votes cast seats would be shared in proportion to thd percentage each party got. How the lists are determined goes off in different directions, party to decide, further public votes etc... Ironically, UKIP in 2015 would have benefitted massively from it where 4m votes returned 1 MP, wheres a proportional system would have been around 80. www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32601281.ampUltimately, for those living in safe seats for parties they dont agree with it would give more weight to their vote. Nothing ironic about it fella. Both UKIP and Farridge (whichever party he's involved with these days) are advocates of PR. And on that - if not much else - I'm in agreement with them. And it's probably why I wouldnt be quick to get behind a campaign for it. The thought of high volumes of seats going to the extremes of the spectrum causes me more of a mither than the binary option of red or blue (with the occasional bit of yellow). Vital that Starmer and Davey get the next GE correct as the by-elections have shown. |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 5, 2022 18:09:02 GMT
Thank fuck for the tories eh. I believe in the 12th year of Labour's leadership 25k food parcels were handed out. For the conservatives that number is 2,537,198. Glad to see you're supportive of socialism though I don't mind some socialist policies. It's all about balance and common sense . Defo a no no from me when it comes to wokery though 😉 Meh, bring on the hard libertarian right. The time has come. Years and years of moderate centre left shite has caused irreversible damage. Time for change ☺️ |
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Sept 5, 2022 18:09:20 GMT
Sounds to me like you think I support the Tories even though I have said I don't and that I think the Tories are shit . Oh dear 😳 Who do you support then? I thought Britain First left politics. Are they still going? I've said I'm politically homeless mate. But I'd support anyone over woke Labour . It's a shame because 30 years ago if I was old enough to vote I'd of been a staunch Labour man . But that was before they become anti British anti family pro woke nonces |
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Sept 5, 2022 18:10:40 GMT
I don't mind some socialist policies. It's all about balance and common sense . Defo a no no from me when it comes to wokery though 😉 Meh, bring on the hard libertarian right. The time has come. Years and years of moderate centre left shite has caused irreversible damage. Time for change ☺️ Too right. I don't mind helping the genuine poor the genuine marginalised etc. I've got a heart and empathy unlike these lefties . I draw the line at people who milk it though. A proper man (not the lefty version) looks after himself and his family and doesn't rely on handouts from the woke mob |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 5, 2022 18:14:26 GMT
Who do you support then? I thought Britain First left politics. Are they still going? I've said I'm politically homeless mate. But I'd support anyone over woke Labour . It's a shame because 30 years ago if I was old enough to vote I'd of been a staunch Labour man . But that was before they become anti British anti family pro woke nonces Tragically the majority of our great nation is currently politically homeless. We've lost our culture, education, identity, economy, freedom, integrity to name but a few. I hope Liz Truss knows what she's doing because it would take far more talented leaders than her to successfully take on this ghastly, dark period facing the people of Great Britain. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 5, 2022 18:17:30 GMT
This may come as a shock but most people dont vote for whatever version of Conservatism we are currently enduring either. It will take you about 10 (no, probably 20) minutes to educate yourself on proportional representation and you could engage on a much deeper level than simply, 'your Mum'. You'd even still he able to bang the 'wokey, lefty snowflake' nonsense drum but just on an almost adult level. Took me five minutes to read the number of Italian governments since 1945 To realise PR is a pile of wank |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 5, 2022 18:18:23 GMT
Meh, bring on the hard libertarian right. The time has come. Years and years of moderate centre left shite has caused irreversible damage. Time for change ☺️ Too right. I don't mind helping the genuine poor the genuine marginalised etc. I've got a heart and empathy unlike these lefties . I draw the line at people who milk it though. A proper man (not the lefty version) looks after himself and his family and doesn't rely on handouts from the woke mob Indeed Audlem. Most kind, decent people don't need to tell the world they are kind and decent. History tell us that. Anyone who feels the need to tell others they possess decency (ie "look at me, I'm a nurse.. look at me I'm a teacher... look at me I help out at food banks") is more often than not a total cunt and an incredibly dull individual. Typically unsuccessful as well. 😊 Oh, add "look at me, I'm a vegan *vegan logo on Instagram profile*" to this list of total cunts. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 5, 2022 18:19:55 GMT
I've said I'm politically homeless mate. But I'd support anyone over woke Labour . It's a shame because 30 years ago if I was old enough to vote I'd of been a staunch Labour man . But that was before they become anti British anti family pro woke nonces Tragically the majority of our great nation is currently politically homeless. We've lost our culture, education, identity, economy, freedom, integrity to name but a few. I hope Liz Truss knows what she's doing because it would take far more talented leaders than her to successfully take on this ghastly, dark period facing the people of Great Britain. Spot on |
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