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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 19, 2021 10:35:29 GMT
Well it’s only a matter of time before the bumbling fool is either stabbed in the back or falls on his sword
So who are the runners for the top job and who would you like
Sunak : seems so far to have had a good covid period
Truss : god help us
Hunt : would I think seem popular with the country
Baker : slowly going around building support from the right would guarantee a hard brexit stance probably to hard for most MPs
My possible outside choice Johnny mercer a ex young army officer resigned on principle before Would I think appeal to the red wall
I would of course like David Davis but his age and previous attempts would rule him out
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Post by OldStokie on Dec 19, 2021 10:53:06 GMT
I wouldn't like any of them but if I were to choose one who was openly a money grabbing bastard, I'd go for Hunt. OS.
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Post by oggyoggy on Dec 19, 2021 10:54:39 GMT
Well it’s only a matter of time before the bumbling fool is either stabbed in the back or falls on his sword So who are the runners for the top job and who would you like Sunak : seems so far to have had a good covid period Truss : god help us Hunt : would I think seem popular with the country Baker : slowly going around building support from the right would guarantee a hard brexit stance probably to hard for most MPs My possible outside choice Johnny mercer a ex young army officer resigned on principle before Would I think appeal to the red wall I would of course like David Davis but his age and previous attempts would rule him out Nobody will want the job at the moment. Omicron out of control, inflation high with big increases to energy still to come, wage growth much lower, brexit rumbling on, tax rises coming in April and an inevitable pasting for the tories in the local elections in May. Surely no leadership challenge will happen for 6 months. When it does, as long as he is not tarnished by Johnson, Sunak will get it most likely.
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Post by werrington on Dec 19, 2021 10:54:44 GMT
Gove has taken a backseat and is sat in waiting
He’s the next cun….sorry PM
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 19, 2021 11:03:55 GMT
Nailed on sunak with hunt in the cabinet
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Post by dutchstokie on Dec 19, 2021 11:13:07 GMT
Wouldn’t Savid Javid be in with a shout?
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Post by professorplump on Dec 19, 2021 11:15:40 GMT
The next PM will be decided on purely by Tory members and Truss is very popular with them. Sunak is less popular because he has put taxes up. Hunt is generally well respected within the party and seen as a bit of an elder statesman these days so may have a chance. Sajid Javid is another who could be in the running, although if he brings back lockdowns, that will count against him.
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Post by salopstick on Dec 19, 2021 11:39:21 GMT
Somm my retimes you get what you deserve.
It’s ok to say boris is a bumbling cunt but he was the only (in the loosest terms) leader who said hang on you voted brexit. I will give you brexit. That’s what the voters wanted that’s what they got.
He could have kept the act going for longer had covid not hit now it shows all his weaknesses and exposes the hypocrisy of government.
It’s time for a safe(ish) pair of hands. Sunak is not the answer. Jeremy Hunt seems the best cunt in a sea of cunts. Not a great recommendation.
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Post by Eggybread on Dec 19, 2021 12:29:24 GMT
Well it’s only a matter of time before the bumbling fool is either stabbed in the back or falls on his sword So who are the runners for the top job and who would you like Sunak : seems so far to have had a good covid period Truss : god help us Hunt : would I think seem popular with the country Baker : slowly going around building support from the right would guarantee a hard brexit stance probably to hard for most MPs My possible outside choice Johnny mercer a ex young army officer resigned on principle before Would I think appeal to the red wall I would of course like David Davis but his age and previous attempts would rule him out "Sunak : seems so far to have had a good covid period " Hangs head in utter disbelief.
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Post by oggyoggy on Dec 19, 2021 12:35:24 GMT
Somm my retimes you get what you deserve. It’s ok to say boris is a bumbling cunt but he was the only (in the loosest terms) leader who said hang on you voted brexit. I will give you brexit. That’s what the voters wanted that’s what they got. He could have kept the act going for longer had covid not hit now it shows all his weaknesses and exposes the hypocrisy of government. It’s time for a safe(ish) pair of hands. Sunak is not the answer. Jeremy Hunt seems the best cunt in a sea of cunts. Not a great recommendation. Brexit certainly is not done. Unless you mean the fact we keep extending transitional arrangements because we are too scared to implement what we have negotiated and signed off on. And the NI protocol is certainly not done with! I completely agree that a “safe pair of hands” is what the tories should go for. But most of their members make Liz Truss and Mark Françios appear normal, and are completely detached from reality, so who knows who they will elect!
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Dec 19, 2021 12:44:28 GMT
Somm my retimes you get what you deserve. It’s ok to say boris is a bumbling cunt but he was the only (in the loosest terms) leader who said hang on you voted brexit. I will give you brexit. That’s what the voters wanted that’s what they got. He could have kept the act going for longer had covid not hit now it shows all his weaknesses and exposes the hypocrisy of government. It’s time for a safe(ish) pair of hands. Sunak is not the answer. Jeremy Hunt seems the best cunt in a sea of cunts. Not a great recommendation. That's not an unfair summary. Boris is the perfect metaphor for Brexit, so absolutely appropriate that he should have led the campaign, got voted in on the back of it and now been found out for the bad idea that he, and it, were.
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 19, 2021 12:46:26 GMT
In the mid 1990s I attended a number of functions where Blair was the speaker. When Blair was going round the constituencies to build up support, one of the jokes he used to warm up the audience was to tell a story about being introduced. He would thank the person who had introduced him and say "..., which reminds me of one occasion I was introduced by the rather elderly local party Chairperson as "the up and coming new leader of the Labour Party and "next Prime Minister"...... "After my speech I said to the Chairperson, "Thankyou very much for your kind introduction particularly the bit about being the next Prime Minister". "He replied "That's all right young man, I said the same for the last three Labour leaders who spoke here."
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Post by salopstick on Dec 19, 2021 12:48:06 GMT
In the mid 1990s I attended a number of functions where Blair was the speaker. When Blair was going round the constituencies to build up support, one of the jokes he used to warm up the audience was to tell a story about being introduced. He would thank the person who had introduced him and say "..., which reminds me of one occasion I was introduced by the rather elderly local party Chairperson as "the up and coming new leader of the Labour Party and "next Prime Minister"...... "After my speech I said to the Chairperson, "Thankyou very much for your kind introduction particularly the bit about being the next Prime Minister". "He replied "That's all right young man, I said the same for the last three Labour leaders who spoke here."John Smith dying was a great tragedy for this country
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Post by theonlooker on Dec 19, 2021 12:54:26 GMT
I'm dreading it being Patel.
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Post by salopstick on Dec 19, 2021 12:59:45 GMT
I'm dreading it being Patel. It won’t be Patel. Only the tories are progressive enough to elect a female leader. I don’t believe the tories and country are progressive enough yet to have a non white leader. Especially a female non white leader. She’s not statesperson enough. Hunt as mentioned earlier has that air of an elder statesman and I think in peoples eyes that’s how they see a prime minister Owning a comb should be the first priority
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Post by Widget123 on Dec 19, 2021 13:04:15 GMT
Well it’s only a matter of time before the bumbling fool is either stabbed in the back or falls on his sword So who are the runners for the top job and who would you like Sunak : seems so far to have had a good covid period Truss : god help us Hunt : would I think seem popular with the country Baker : slowly going around building support from the right would guarantee a hard brexit stance probably to hard for most MPs My possible outside choice Johnny mercer a ex young army officer resigned on principle before Would I think appeal to the red wall I would of course like David Davis but his age and previous attempts would rule him out "Sunak : seems so far to have had a good covid period " Hangs head in utter disbelief. Sunak has a very large image problem in two ways - one he appears to be trying to proposing to pay for the pandemic costs buy hawking the NHS to US medical companies, whether this is actually true will come out in the fullness of time but he's currently tarnished with that. In addition he also withheld support of any sort from 3 Million small business owners (resulting in over 25 suicides) and went on TV saying he didn't recognise and could not identify them as businesses. His department then managed to send tax bills to both the business owners and the businesses themselves which means he just flat out lied. Truss - might popular within the party but would be a car crash of a PM as she has the social graces of a bull in a china shop and is as thick as a block of cheddar. Hunt - Has experience on his side but against the field that isn't difficult. Patel - Huge image issues as well as obviously being as mad as a basket of frogs. Baker - Clearly trying to create a backing for himself through his alliance with the Brexiteer faction in the party. Has the statesmanship depth of a puddle. Javid - A simple "yes" man. Says faux positive responses to every question regardless of the question and then hides if the questions are likely to be ones he can't be positive about. He's avoided over a dozen interviews in the last two months. Not really PM material and just another puddle deep personality. Raab - A man who has failed at basically everything he's ever done in politics. Davies - A known quitter when the going gets tougher. Gove - A man who has at least a third of the electorate wanting to put a dart board on his back given his crap [to the point of being sacked] performance in various roles historically. Dowden - Currently co-chairman but made a complete mess of being secretary for media, sport and digital. Arguably the easiest cabinet role which says something about his lack of ability. Its very slim pickings and the whole current cabinet is a shambles of over promoted "yes" people. No wonder our pandemic response has been mostly awful this bunch couldn't organise a piss up in brewery.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 19, 2021 13:04:19 GMT
I imagine the 3 in the final battle will be Javid, Sunak and Hunt
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Post by iancransonsknees on Dec 19, 2021 13:09:37 GMT
I'm dreading it being Patel. It won’t be Patel. Only the tories are progressive enough to elect a female leader. I don’t believe the tories and country are progressive enough yet to have a non white leader. Especially a female non white leader. She’s not statesperson enough. Hunt as mentioned earlier has that air of an elder statesman and I think in peoples eyes that’s how they see a prime minister Owning a comb should be the first priority It's certainly intriguing to consider where we'd have been otherwise.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Dec 19, 2021 13:13:45 GMT
I'm dreading it being Patel. It won’t be Patel. Only the tories are progressive enough to elect a female leader. I don’t believe the tories and country are progressive enough yet to have a non white leader. Especially a female non white leader. She’s not statesperson enough. Hunt as mentioned earlier has that air of an elder statesman and I think in peoples eyes that’s how they see a prime minister Owning a comb should be the first priority Can you imagine Patel as PM! She would make Johnson look competent. If the Tories want someone who will do well at PMQs and never be lost for an answer/words, Michael Gove would be the best bet. However, he's seen as toxic within the party and his past (?) indiscretions are likely to catch up with him. Incidentally, where is he? A cynic might wonder - rehab? All probably irrelevant speculation as Bluffer will probably be left in post as a lame duck for the foreseeable, hoovering up all the shit that's coming the government's way. Unless he really only cares about himself, which is a distinct possibility, in which case he might cheerfully drop his colleagues right in it, call it a day and bugger off to light entertainment...
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 19, 2021 13:25:41 GMT
Well it’s only a matter of time before the bumbling fool is either stabbed in the back or falls on his sword So who are the runners for the top job and who would you like Sunak : seems so far to have had a good covid period Truss : god help us Hunt : would I think seem popular with the country Baker : slowly going around building support from the right would guarantee a hard brexit stance probably to hard for most MPs My possible outside choice Johnny mercer a ex young army officer resigned on principle before Would I think appeal to the red wall I would of course like David Davis but his age and previous attempts would rule him out "Sunak : seems so far to have had a good covid period " Hangs head in utter disbelief. You can hang your head in whatever manner you may wish But in reality millions are grateful they still have jobs and business’s due to his interventions
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 19, 2021 13:26:56 GMT
"Sunak : seems so far to have had a good covid period " Hangs head in utter disbelief. You can hang your head in whatever manner you may wish But in reality millions are grateful they still have jobs and business’s due to his interventions Let’s hope he’s got a plan for the next one.
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 19, 2021 13:34:13 GMT
You can hang your head in whatever manner you may wish But in reality millions are grateful they still have jobs and business’s due to his interventions Let’s hope he’s got a plan for the next one. It certainly looks like he may need one
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 19, 2021 13:35:25 GMT
Let’s hope he’s got a plan for the next one. It certainly looks like he may need one I’ll definitely need one!
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Post by GrahamHyde on Dec 19, 2021 13:35:45 GMT
Sunak, 100%
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Post by hoffgreen on Dec 19, 2021 13:53:35 GMT
Are there any White British men in the running for the Indian or Pakistani parliaments 🤔
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Post by lordb on Dec 19, 2021 14:29:15 GMT
The next PM will be chosen the same way as they usually are By a small number of Tory MP's
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 19, 2021 14:31:28 GMT
Are there any White British men in the running for the Indian or Pakistani parliaments 🤔 Highly doubtful mainly due to the minuscule white British population in either country.
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Post by lordb on Dec 19, 2021 14:31:40 GMT
I'm dreading it being Patel. It won’t be Patel. Only the tories are progressive enough to elect a female leader. I don’t believe the tories and country are progressive enough yet to have a non white leader. Especially a female non white leader. She’s not statesperson enough. Hunt as mentioned earlier has that air of an elder statesman and I think in peoples eyes that’s how they see a prime minister Owning a comb should be the first priority Lib Dems had a female leader,as have the Greens and the SNP The Conservatives of course have had just the one female leader
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 19, 2021 14:31:56 GMT
Gove has taken a backseat and is sat in waiting He’s the next cun….sorry PM Terrifying prospect.
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Post by salopstick on Dec 19, 2021 14:36:30 GMT
It won’t be Patel. Only the tories are progressive enough to elect a female leader. I don’t believe the tories and country are progressive enough yet to have a non white leader. Especially a female non white leader. She’s not statesperson enough. Hunt as mentioned earlier has that air of an elder statesman and I think in peoples eyes that’s how they see a prime minister Owning a comb should be the first priority Lib Dems had a female leader,as have the Greens and the SNP The Conservatives of course have had just the one female leader Even I can’t work out which one you mean
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