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Post by andystokey on Sept 5, 2022 11:43:09 GMT
Deliver - seems to be the word for today.
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Post by questionable on Sept 5, 2022 11:43:19 GMT
Christ talk about sour faced, Sunaks face when they were announced, brilliant.
Off to the USA it is then.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 5, 2022 11:43:38 GMT
paying off the national debt is a bit of a fallacy mate, look at what Atlee achieved with a national debt of 250% of GDP. It takes radical policy but it can be done....... Indeed he did, but back in those days the rich were made to pay 90% income tax to counterbalance the situation. This time, Truss seems to be wanting to take the Attlee route but let the top earners pay less. So guess who will be facing the next 50 years paying off a wartime-like situation? However, I see the only way for us to get through this terrible situation is to make it long-term because if we try to soak it up in one go it will bankrupt both families and industry and may even bring about riots like we saw with the poll tax. OS. Absolutely, the radical change I'm referring to wouldn't be undertaken by either the Tories or Starmer's Labour. But any austerity measures that are undertaken in the near future to "pay of the national debt" should see working class people and those marginalised in society out on the streets as far as I'm concerned, enough is enough........ |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Sept 5, 2022 11:44:50 GMT
What an excellent excellent excellent speech.
I am ready ready ready for Liz.
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Post by redstriper on Sept 5, 2022 11:45:31 GMT
So there we have it... insanity reigns.
for (at least) the fourth time in a row the tories elect the wrong leader.
Country to run ? lets choose a shiny suit instead of experience and common sense
Brexit to handle ? lets choose a remainer
Hard work required as country in the shit ? - lets choose the idle chancer.
Finances in a mess ? - lets choose the thatcher wannabee with no grasp on economics
The only possible conclusion is the tory faithful are either thick or have no grasp on reality. Seven weeks to think about it and still fucking useless. Even the Stoke board have a better record than that...
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Post by elystokie on Sept 5, 2022 11:46:51 GMT
"Boris Johnson you are admired from Kiev to Carlisle"
Yup, the general public often show their admiration by booing people loudly Liz 😂
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Post by thewonderstuff on Sept 5, 2022 11:49:17 GMT
What an excellent excellent excellent speech. I am ready ready ready for Liz. She suddenly sounds like Barry fucking White! 'I will deliver on the NHS' she said with her typical lack of detail! What, deliver privatisation, you bile filled right wing lunatic |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Sept 5, 2022 11:49:53 GMT
"Boris Johnson you are admired from Kiev to Carlisle" Yup, the general public often show their admiration by booing people loudly Liz 😂 It's Kyiv nowadays. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 5, 2022 11:50:18 GMT
I'm not sure even the British public are dumb enough to fall for her trickledown economics bullshit regardless any sticking plasters she locates in the meantime……are they? The papers will be calling her Thatcher-like by the end of the month and people will be lapping it up you watch........ By the end of the month? They've been suggesting she's channeling the ghost of Thatcher for the last six weeks. She's even dressed like Thatcher along the way. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 5, 2022 11:51:47 GMT
Depends on whether it looks like they'll get re-elected. Nothing quietens a Tory back-bencher down more than the prospect of power! |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 5, 2022 11:53:24 GMT
The papers will be calling her Thatcher-like by the end of the month and people will be lapping it up you watch........ By the end of the month? They've been suggesting she's channeling the ghost of Thatcher for the last six weeks. She's even dressed like Thatcher along the way. Absolutely, but they’ll be giving it the old “saviour of the country” routine when she puts forward a couple of half sensible policies……. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 5, 2022 11:59:06 GMT
So there we have it... insanity reigns. for (at least) the fourth time in a row the tories elect the wrong leader. Country to run ? lets choose a shiny suit instead of experience and common sense Brexit to handle ? lets choose a remainer Hard work required as country in the shit ? - lets choose the idle chancer. Finances in a mess ? - lets choose the thatcher wannabee with no grasp on economics The only possible conclusion is the tory faithful are either thick or have no grasp on reality. Seven weeks to think about it and still fucking useless. Even the Stoke board have a better record than that... You do have to wonder, don't you! I mean, even those not inclined to vote Tory could see that, at the very least, Sunak has something of a grasp on economics and tried to come across as human, you know, actually giving a shit about ordinary people. When he said it would be a moral failure for a Conservative government not to make things better for the poor, there was barely a murmur, as if that was something none of the Tories in the audience had ever considered as a responsibility before! As soon as Truss mentioned cutting taxes they went nuts! Terrifying that these people actually get to choose! |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 5, 2022 11:59:42 GMT
By the end of the month? They've been suggesting she's channeling the ghost of Thatcher for the last six weeks. She's even dressed like Thatcher along the way. Absolutely, but they’ll be giving it the old “saviour of the country” routine when she puts forward a couple of half sensible policies……. When? If, surely? |
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Post by elystokie on Sept 5, 2022 12:05:40 GMT
Absolutely, but they’ll be giving it the old “saviour of the country” routine when she puts forward a couple of half sensible policies……. When? If, surely? It'll be a 'when' no matter what. Haven't you seen the Daily Heil in action lately? |
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Post by knype on Sept 5, 2022 12:08:06 GMT
What an excellent excellent excellent speech. I am ready ready ready for Liz. She suddenly sounds like Barry fucking White! 'I will deliver on the NHS' she said with her typical lack of detail! What, deliver privatisation, you bile filled right wing lunatic More name calling... |
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Post by Gob Bluth on Sept 5, 2022 12:08:21 GMT
Why isn't she getting better at delivering speeches? She's done a large number and is still absolutely terrible.
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Post by knype on Sept 5, 2022 12:09:13 GMT
Why isn't she getting better at delivering speeches? She's done a large number and is still absolutely terrible. Thats not something that comes naturally to lots of people? |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 5, 2022 12:14:08 GMT
Absolutely, but they’ll be giving it the old “saviour of the country” routine when she puts forward a couple of half sensible policies……. When? If, surely? She'll do something about energy prices, she'll have to........ |
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Post by Gob Bluth on Sept 5, 2022 12:15:51 GMT
Why isn't she getting better at delivering speeches? She's done a large number and is still absolutely terrible. Thats not something that comes naturally to lots of people? She's PM. I expect that if she's not very good at something, especially something that's part of the job she will improve at it. If she's not able to improve at various skills she is going to drown very quickly. She will be facing challenges that few will have faced and will need to overcome them these at breakneck speed but if she can't improve at something she's now had lots of time to get better at we are screwed, really screwed. |
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Sept 5, 2022 12:16:46 GMT
She suddenly sounds like Barry fucking White! 'I will deliver on the NHS' she said with her typical lack of detail! What, deliver privatisation, you bile filled right wing lunatic More name calling... Better than being a left wing lunatic I suppose |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Sept 5, 2022 12:17:03 GMT
It'll be a 'when' no matter what. Haven't you seen the Daily Heil in action lately? Aye - They seem to have gone full snowflake over some brummie comedian this morning. If they feel she needs protecting against Joe Lycett's sarky jibes then god help her if she gets to meet Putin. |
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Post by elystokie on Sept 5, 2022 12:19:08 GMT
It'll be a 'when' no matter what. Haven't you seen the Daily Heil in action lately? Aye - They seem to have gone full snowflake over some brummie comedian this morning. If they feel she needs protecting against Joe Lycett's sarky jibes then god help her if she gets to meet Putin. Haven't seen it but I can imagine. They probably want to cancel him  |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Sept 5, 2022 12:19:43 GMT
Why isn't she getting better at delivering speeches? She's done a large number and is still absolutely terrible. Thats not something that comes naturally to lots of people? Singing doesn't come naturally to a lot of people. Those people tend not to go into showbusiness. Successful speeches are a critical aspect of modern politics. |
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Post by knype on Sept 5, 2022 12:22:00 GMT
Thats not something that comes naturally to lots of people? Singing doesn't come naturally to a lot of people. Those people tend not to go into showbusiness. Successful speeches are a critical aspect of modern politics. Maybe Starmer should also be criticised then? Hes as dull as dishwater and makes you fall asleep? |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Sept 5, 2022 12:24:46 GMT
Singing doesn't come naturally to a lot of people. Those people tend not to go into showbusiness. Successful speeches are a critical aspect of modern politics. Maybe Starmer should also be criticised then? Hes as dull as dishwater and makes you fall asleep? For some reason Liz Truss seems to be in the news a bit more this afternoon and therefore a slightly more topical subject of discussion. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 5, 2022 12:27:40 GMT
She'll do something about energy prices, she'll have to........ True. And you're probably right that it'll be portrayed as "saving the nation", whereas precisely the same approach by a different government would be "borrowing and spending madness"  |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Sept 5, 2022 12:28:32 GMT
Perhaps it should not matter, but one mannerism that she has which really annoys me is....when she pauses and waits for applause , looking very pleased with herself, when she says something that she thinks they will want to hear....and then there is a small but noticeable gap , in which the audience realise it is their cue to applaud....and then do so.
I will reserve judgement until she has been in office for a bit....I'm not sure that ANY political personality at present has the gumption/ skill/ ability/ courage or vision to deal with the issues facing our country....but of course some would be better than others.
The system/ party politics has alot to answer for.
Scary times.
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Post by Gob Bluth on Sept 5, 2022 12:37:55 GMT
Singing doesn't come naturally to a lot of people. Those people tend not to go into showbusiness. Successful speeches are a critical aspect of modern politics. Maybe Starmer should also be criticised then? Hes as dull as dishwater and makes you fall asleep? Starmer isn't great but he's significantly better at public speaking than Truss and I think there is actually and upward trend for Starmer. |
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Post by Gob Bluth on Sept 5, 2022 12:38:50 GMT
Perhaps it should not matter, but one mannerism that she has which really annoys me is....when she pauses and waits for applause , looking very pleased with herself, when she says something that she thinks they will want to hear....and then there is a small but noticeable gap , in which the audience realise it is their cue to applaud....and then do so. I will reserve judgement until she has been in office for a bit....I'm not sure that ANY political personality at present has the gumption/ skill/ ability/ courage or vision to deal with the issues facing our country....but of course some would be better than others. The system/ party politics has alot to answer for. Scary times. She can't read punctuation no mind about reading the crowd or room. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 5, 2022 12:42:40 GMT
Love a good wokey meltdown😏
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