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Post by musik on Jan 13, 2022 1:18:05 GMT
He didn't know there was a party going on? 🤨 (on Swe TV yesterday)
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Post by musik on Jan 13, 2022 1:18:50 GMT
Why are they sitting so close together?
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Post by tuum on Jan 13, 2022 2:13:07 GMT
So based on your quick Google search, you would be happy to concede that we are "one of the most tolerant/least racist nations in the world?" I can't believe you actually feel the need to dispute such an obvious point. I'd suggest the nations you mention are much of a muchness. Is Ireland REALLY more tolerant than the UK? A Bengali friend of mine moved out to Cork a few years ago and the foreign community out there is tiny, he hates it and frequently gets racially abused, indeed in one instance, violently. Clearly thats one example and such incidents occur here, but he has certainly found Ireland a more racist society then the UK. I'd be happy to hear arguments in favour of Ireland being more tolerant and progressive than the UK. Either way, 13th out of 195 countries is a decent standing right? It depends on which metrics they choose to employ and how they're manipulated, but considering they’re three randomly-selected studies, there’s a degree of consistency in the conclusions that I wouldn’t have expected. If you’d asked me before I’d looked it up, based on nothing more than my own subjective (middle-aged white man’s) judgment, I’d have had us just sneaking into the top ten. So I wouldn’t argue that the UK isn’t a better place to be than many other countries for people belonging to ethnic minorities, but we’re some way from “…THE most progressive, tolerant nation on the planet” and the picture hasn’t exactly been improving recently. Racism aside, people have become much less tolerant of anything that doesn’t fit their world view. Like the majority of people here, I can’t speak with any authority about what it’s like to live anywhere other than the UK. I was slightly surprised to see Ireland so high the list, but I’m sure there’ll be quite a difference between the young, metropolitan class and the older, rural and provincial communities (very much like here), and I doubt the studies will have stretched too far beyond Dublin. I do have very close links to Denmark, though, and I can attest to it being on another level in terms of social progression and inclusiveness. Interesting that you mention Denmark as being one of the better countries in terms of social progression and inclusiveness. I don't disagree but how do you reconcile the above with some of their recent decisions regarding asylum seekers/immigrants? It seems the right wing govt in Denmark is taking steps to maintain social cohesion by processing asylum seekers via a 3rd country in Africa and forcing migrants to work for benefits. They have admitted that some of the rules were specifically aimed at 'non-western' women living on benefits. If the UK tried to adopt these policies there would be hell to pay. I accept that in Denmark there is no snobbery in terms of, for example, the job you do so a lawyer lives next to a dustman with no judgment on either part. However, I would question whether this acceptance applies so easily to immigrants/asylum seekers under the current government.
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Post by dexter97 on Jan 13, 2022 10:11:57 GMT
It depends on which metrics they choose to employ and how they're manipulated, but considering they’re three randomly-selected studies, there’s a degree of consistency in the conclusions that I wouldn’t have expected. If you’d asked me before I’d looked it up, based on nothing more than my own subjective (middle-aged white man’s) judgment, I’d have had us just sneaking into the top ten. So I wouldn’t argue that the UK isn’t a better place to be than many other countries for people belonging to ethnic minorities, but we’re some way from “…THE most progressive, tolerant nation on the planet” and the picture hasn’t exactly been improving recently. Racism aside, people have become much less tolerant of anything that doesn’t fit their world view. Like the majority of people here, I can’t speak with any authority about what it’s like to live anywhere other than the UK. I was slightly surprised to see Ireland so high the list, but I’m sure there’ll be quite a difference between the young, metropolitan class and the older, rural and provincial communities (very much like here), and I doubt the studies will have stretched too far beyond Dublin. I do have very close links to Denmark, though, and I can attest to it being on another level in terms of social progression and inclusiveness. Interesting that you mention Denmark as being one of the better countries in terms of social progression and inclusiveness. I don't disagree but how do you reconcile the above with some of their recent decisions regarding asylum seekers/immigrants? It seems the right wing govt in Denmark is taking steps to maintain social cohesion by processing asylum seekers via a 3rd country in Africa and forcing migrants to work for benefits. They have admitted that some of the rules were specifically aimed at 'non-western' women living on benefits. If the UK tried to adopt these policies there would be hell to pay. I accept that in Denmark there is no snobbery in terms of, for example, the job you do so a lawyer lives next to a dustman with no judgment on either part. However, I would question whether this acceptance applies so easily to immigrants/asylum seekers under the current government. Fair point, Tuum. The laws were brought in by a centre-right government propped-up by a far-right party. One of the architects of the draconian immigration policy has actually just been imprisoned for two months for her part in separating immigrant couples (Imagine that, Priti?). There’s been a centre-left coalition in Denmark for the last couple of years, which makes it a little surprising that they’ve continued with it. Presumably it’s to head-off the threat of the resurgence of the far-right, which has (to some degree) been quelled recently. Denmark has never had a lot of immigration and is less ethnically diverse than a lot of Europe, including here (Perhaps surprising, given their very generous system of social security – it’s almost as if that’s not the reason migrants head for a particular country). Their approach to immigration has always been more about assimilation than multiculturalism; in fact, it’s a very homogenous society in most respects and they’re suspicious of anything that might be deleterious to the egalitarian Danish culture. You could make an argument for that being racist, but I don't think theirs is anything like the attitude towards migrants we see in this country. I wouldn’t hold up Denmark, or indeed any country, as being perfect. Far from it. There’s racism in every corner of the world, and an increasing right-wing sentiment that’s very noisy and influential; nowhere is immune. In my (albeit limited) experience though, on social cohesion they get a lot more right than we do, and the boast that the UK is ‘the most tolerant, progressive nation on the planet’ looks rather silly if you’ve spent any time in their society.
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Post by tuum on Jan 13, 2022 10:45:06 GMT
Interesting that you mention Denmark as being one of the better countries in terms of social progression and inclusiveness. I don't disagree but how do you reconcile the above with some of their recent decisions regarding asylum seekers/immigrants? It seems the right wing govt in Denmark is taking steps to maintain social cohesion by processing asylum seekers via a 3rd country in Africa and forcing migrants to work for benefits. They have admitted that some of the rules were specifically aimed at 'non-western' women living on benefits. If the UK tried to adopt these policies there would be hell to pay. I accept that in Denmark there is no snobbery in terms of, for example, the job you do so a lawyer lives next to a dustman with no judgment on either part. However, I would question whether this acceptance applies so easily to immigrants/asylum seekers under the current government. Fair point, Tuum. The laws were brought in by a centre-right government propped-up by a far-right party. One of the architects of the draconian immigration policy has actually just been imprisoned for two months for her part in separating immigrant couples (Imagine that, Priti?). There’s been a centre-left coalition in Denmark for the last couple of years, which makes it a little surprising that they’ve continued with it. Presumably it’s to head-off the threat of the resurgence of the far-right, which has (to some degree) been quelled recently. Denmark has never had a lot of immigration and is less ethnically diverse than a lot of Europe, including here (Perhaps surprising, given their very generous system of social security – it’s almost as if that’s not the reason migrants head for a particular country). Their approach to immigration has always been more about assimilation than multiculturalism; in fact, it’s a very homogenous society in most respects and they’re suspicious of anything that might be deleterious to the egalitarian Danish culture. You could make an argument for that being racist, but I don't think theirs is anything like the attitude towards migrants we see in this country. I wouldn’t hold up Denmark, or indeed any country, as being perfect. Far from it. There’s racism in every corner of the world, and an increasing right-wing sentiment that’s very noisy and influential; nowhere is immune. In my (albeit limited) experience though, on social cohesion they get a lot more right than we do, and the boast that the UK is ‘the most tolerant, progressive nation on the planet’ looks rather silly if you’ve spent any time in their society. I agree. I get the impression that the UK is much less cohesive as a society now than it was even 20 years ago. I think the conservative policy of austerity has a lot to do with it, especially when it seems the austerity seems to hit the poorer elements of society a lot harder. In terms of helping immigrants to assimilate it helps if your population is small. It also helps if your basic social services have a decent budget. Public services in the UK these days are barely functional (see Conservatives austerity cuts). The next PM and Govt have a massive job on their hands to turn the ship around.
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Post by dutchstokie on Jan 13, 2022 10:53:03 GMT
Interesting that you mention Denmark as being one of the better countries in terms of social progression and inclusiveness. I don't disagree but how do you reconcile the above with some of their recent decisions regarding asylum seekers/immigrants? It seems the right wing govt in Denmark is taking steps to maintain social cohesion by processing asylum seekers via a 3rd country in Africa and forcing migrants to work for benefits. They have admitted that some of the rules were specifically aimed at 'non-western' women living on benefits. If the UK tried to adopt these policies there would be hell to pay. I accept that in Denmark there is no snobbery in terms of, for example, the job you do so a lawyer lives next to a dustman with no judgment on either part. However, I would question whether this acceptance applies so easily to immigrants/asylum seekers under the current government. Fair point, Tuum. The laws were brought in by a centre-right government propped-up by a far-right party. One of the architects of the draconian immigration policy has actually just been imprisoned for two months for her part in separating immigrant couples (Imagine that, Priti?). There’s been a centre-left coalition in Denmark for the last couple of years, which makes it a little surprising that they’ve continued with it. Presumably it’s to head-off the threat of the resurgence of the far-right, which has (to some degree) been quelled recently. Denmark has never had a lot of immigration and is less ethnically diverse than a lot of Europe, including here (Perhaps surprising, given their very generous system of social security – it’s almost as if that’s not the reason migrants head for a particular country). Their approach to immigration has always been more about assimilation than multiculturalism; in fact, it’s a very homogenous society in most respects and they’re suspicious of anything that might be deleterious to the egalitarian Danish culture. You could make an argument for that being racist, but I don't think theirs is anything like the attitude towards migrants we see in this country. I wouldn’t hold up Denmark, or indeed any country, as being perfect. Far from it. There’s racism in every corner of the world, and an increasing right-wing sentiment that’s very noisy and influential; nowhere is immune. In my (albeit limited) experience though, on social cohesion they get a lot more right than we do, and the boast that the UK is ‘the most tolerant, progressive nation on the planet’ looks rather silly if you’ve spent any time in their society. Fair comments all round there....Ive spent many a happy festival in Skanderborg at the Smukkest festival and have worked for years on and off out of Esbjerg and the points you raise about social cohesion and tolerance are pretty much spot on. They DO have the view of "look after your own" first, and the standard of living is right up there with the best. If you commit to the culture and understand what the Danes are about and repsect their views and values then they welcome you with open arms. The issues arise when you dont.........much like any other country really.
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 3, 2022 8:59:47 GMT
I see sunak is holding a public interview for the job At 5 pm tonight
On other candidates truss has slipped a place to second in the popularity stakes Behind Ben Wallace amongst Tory members
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Post by brotherleelove on Feb 3, 2022 13:32:33 GMT
All I can say with confidence is it won't be Starmer.
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Post by klingon on Feb 3, 2022 13:49:24 GMT
I see sunak is holding a public interview for the job At 5 pm tonight On other candidates truss has slipped a place to second in the popularity stakes Behind Ben Wallace amongst Tory members I think that Lavish Liz has fallen behind following the unfortunate postponement of her one-woman invasion of Russia due to Covid. Wallace is currently high in the estimation of the blue-rinse brigade following his successful evacuation of animals from Kabul, thus keeping them out of harm's way of the sexual depredations of the Taliban. If there was currently a "Minister for Sinking Small Boats in the Channel", they'd piss any leadership contest.
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Post by dexter97 on Feb 3, 2022 14:04:20 GMT
I see sunak is holding a public interview for the job At 5 pm tonight On other candidates truss has slipped a place to second in the popularity stakes Behind Ben Wallace amongst Tory members I think that Lavish Liz has fallen behind following the unfortunate postponement of her one-woman invasion of Russia due to Covid. Wallace is currently high in the estimation of the blue-rinse brigade following his successful evacuation of animals from Kabul, thus keeping them out of harm's way of the sexual depredations of the Taliban. If there was currently a "Minister for Sinking Small Boats in the Channel", they'd piss any leadership contest. That's what it says on Priti Patel's business cards.
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Post by klingon on Feb 3, 2022 14:12:34 GMT
"I say, this is spiffing! Going on a big extended family outing soon, how many sprogs does it hold?" ![](https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/830bee46cfb6234de9cf0850c6022629c660dbc1/0_0_3500_2333/master/3500.jpg?width=620&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=a9a2b828e3988fed3a051fbbd8811a7d)
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Post by toppercorner on Feb 3, 2022 14:20:35 GMT
I see sunak is holding a public interview for the job At 5 pm tonight On other candidates truss has slipped a place to second in the popularity stakes Behind Ben Wallace amongst Tory members Sunak is a fucking snake. He purposefully left 3m self-employed to rot during the pandemic. He's just said we're all getting a £200 rebate to cope with high energy costs (it's not, we have to pay it back, it's a loan). Shell also announced today they have quadrupled profits to £19bn+ in the last year, and we, the taxpayer, have paid Shell (the company has paid zero corporation tax in years) £13bn+ in grants since 2015. The govt also voted through to cut millionaires tax last night, from 8% to 3% after £25m He was a pivotal part of the 2008 crash, he's filled his own boots, and hid friends during the pandemic, and now he's got the cheek to want to be PM??? Fuck him off asap!!! The tories will not help us, they only help themselves.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 3, 2022 14:32:29 GMT
I see sunak is holding a public interview for the job At 5 pm tonight On other candidates truss has slipped a place to second in the popularity stakes Behind Ben Wallace amongst Tory members Sunak is a fucking snake. He purposefully left 3m self-employed to rot during the pandemic. He's just said we're all getting a £200 rebate to cope with high energy costs (it's not, we have to pay it back, it's a loan). Shell also announced today they have quadrupled profits to £19bn+ in the last year, and we, the taxpayer, have paid Shell (the company has paid zero corporation tax in years) £13bn+ in grants since 2015. The govt also voted through to cut millionaires tax last night, from 8% to 3% after £25m He was a pivotal part of the 2008 crash, he's filled his own boots, and hid friends during the pandemic, and now he's got the cheek to want to be PM??? Fuck him off asap!!! The tories will not help us, they only help themselves. The Labour Party are useless and unelectable but if people think Sunak is the answer then they are on another planet. He's a total prat.
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Post by innocentbystander on Feb 3, 2022 15:32:55 GMT
I see sunak is holding a public interview for the job At 5 pm tonight On other candidates truss has slipped a place to second in the popularity stakes Behind Ben Wallace amongst Tory members Sunak is a fucking snake. He purposefully left 3m self-employed to rot during the pandemic. He's just said we're all getting a £200 rebate to cope with high energy costs (it's not, we have to pay it back, it's a loan). Shell also announced today they have quadrupled profits to £19bn+ in the last year, and we, the taxpayer, have paid Shell (the company has paid zero corporation tax in years) £13bn+ in grants since 2015. The govt also voted through to cut millionaires tax last night, from 8% to 3% after £25m He was a pivotal part of the 2008 crash, he's filled his own boots, and hid friends during the pandemic, and now he's got the cheek to want to be PM??? Fuck him off asap!!! The tories will not help us, they only help themselves. I'm self employed, I got as much as I needed and coud have claimed more if I was dishonest. I did ok because I've always been pretty honest on my tax return. And I've never voted Tory.
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Post by toppercorner on Feb 3, 2022 16:26:24 GMT
Sunak is a fucking snake. He purposefully left 3m self-employed to rot during the pandemic. He's just said we're all getting a £200 rebate to cope with high energy costs (it's not, we have to pay it back, it's a loan). Shell also announced today they have quadrupled profits to £19bn+ in the last year, and we, the taxpayer, have paid Shell (the company has paid zero corporation tax in years) £13bn+ in grants since 2015. The govt also voted through to cut millionaires tax last night, from 8% to 3% after £25m He was a pivotal part of the 2008 crash, he's filled his own boots, and hid friends during the pandemic, and now he's got the cheek to want to be PM??? Fuck him off asap!!! The tories will not help us, they only help themselves. I'm self employed, I got as much as I needed and coud have claimed more if I was dishonest. I did ok because I've always been pretty honest on my tax return. And I've never voted Tory. so am i, i didn't, i was forced to change from sole trader to ltd, purely on advice of the govt for my industry, for IR35. Like all my friends too. i got nothing, and those crooks in westminster refused to recognise 20+ years worth of book keeping, and said i was a brand new company. i like how you presume i haven't paid tax or been 'pretty honest'. ALL my work is paid digitally, there is zero cash involved. So how does that fit into your agenda? fuck the tory cunts.
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 3, 2022 16:30:49 GMT
Sunak is a fucking snake. He purposefully left 3m self-employed to rot during the pandemic. He's just said we're all getting a £200 rebate to cope with high energy costs (it's not, we have to pay it back, it's a loan). Shell also announced today they have quadrupled profits to £19bn+ in the last year, and we, the taxpayer, have paid Shell (the company has paid zero corporation tax in years) £13bn+ in grants since 2015. The govt also voted through to cut millionaires tax last night, from 8% to 3% after £25m He was a pivotal part of the 2008 crash, he's filled his own boots, and hid friends during the pandemic, and now he's got the cheek to want to be PM??? Fuck him off asap!!! The tories will not help us, they only help themselves. I'm self employed, I got as much as I needed and coud have claimed more if I was dishonest. I did ok because I've always been pretty honest on my tax return. And I've never voted Tory. A couple of my mates who happen to be self employed also got the help they needed It seems to me that many of the ones that seemed to get no help had spent years avoiding or paying as little tax as possible Though I’m sure there were people who deserved help that didn’t get it
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Post by klingon on Feb 3, 2022 16:34:30 GMT
I'm self employed, I got as much as I needed and coud have claimed more if I was dishonest. I did ok because I've always been pretty honest on my tax return. And I've never voted Tory. so am i, i didn't, i was forced to change from sole trader to ltd, purely on advice of the govt for my industry, for IR35. Like all my friends too. i got nothing, and those crooks in westminster refused to recognise 20+ years worth of book keeping, and said i was a brand new company. i like how you presume i haven't paid tax or been 'pretty honest'. ALL my work is paid digitally, there is zero cash involved. So how does that fit into your agenda? fuck the tory cunts. I think we have found a slogan for the next election for any party brave enough to adopt it. They'd have to have a few focus groups first, obvs.
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Post by toppercorner on Feb 3, 2022 16:52:04 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 3, 2022 19:40:53 GMT
I see sunak is holding a public interview for the job At 5 pm tonight On other candidates truss has slipped a place to second in the popularity stakes Behind Ben Wallace amongst Tory members Sunak is a fucking snake. He purposefully left 3m self-employed to rot during the pandemic. He's just said we're all getting a £200 rebate to cope with high energy costs (it's not, we have to pay it back, it's a loan). Shell also announced today they have quadrupled profits to £19bn+ in the last year, and we, the taxpayer, have paid Shell (the company has paid zero corporation tax in years) £13bn+ in grants since 2015. The govt also voted through to cut millionaires tax last night, from 8% to 3% after £25m He was a pivotal part of the 2008 crash, he's filled his own boots, and hid friends during the pandemic, and now he's got the cheek to want to be PM??? Fuck him off asap!!! The tories will not help us, they only help themselves. You seem to have a weird obsession with making stuff up Sunak and his wife what is it that triggers you so much I wonder. Any links to these claims of £13 billion grants received because I suspect its bollocks from someone who doesn't understand many things. Company I am at "receives" grants for r&d expenditure, if it meets qualifying rules you can make claims for stuff like costs of developing new products including employing staff, it comes through firstly as a reduction in tax paid and if its more than that you get a refund so with all the green energy bollocks I'd be surprised if shell aren't spending significant amounts and hence they reduce corporation tax payments, this is essentially investment that not only employs people directly and indirectly thus generating paye, ni and vat it also increases future profits and so corp tax increases in the future.
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Post by dutchstokie on Feb 3, 2022 19:48:58 GMT
I see sunak is holding a public interview for the job At 5 pm tonight On other candidates truss has slipped a place to second in the popularity stakes Behind Ben Wallace amongst Tory members Sunak is a fucking snake. He purposefully left 3m self-employed to rot during the pandemic. He's just said we're all getting a £200 rebate to cope with high energy costs (it's not, we have to pay it back, it's a loan). Shell also announced today they have quadrupled profits to £19bn+ in the last year, and we, the taxpayer, have paid Shell (the company has paid zero corporation tax in years) £13bn+ in grants since 2015. The govt also voted through to cut millionaires tax last night, from 8% to 3% after £25m He was a pivotal part of the 2008 crash, he's filled his own boots, and hid friends during the pandemic, and now he's got the cheek to want to be PM??? Fuck him off asap!!! The tories will not help us, they only help themselves. Oh well ….. never mind
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Post by yeswilko on Feb 3, 2022 20:03:45 GMT
I'm self employed, I got as much as I needed and coud have claimed more if I was dishonest. I did ok because I've always been pretty honest on my tax return. And I've never voted Tory. A couple of my mates who happen to be self employed also got the help they needed It seems to me that many of the ones that seemed to get no help had spent years avoiding or paying as little tax as possible Though I’m sure there were people who deserved help that didn’t get it If you had only recently set up as self employed when they told you that you couldn't work, you didn't have years of tax returns to show. Can't you get your head around that? I'm sure its been pointed out to you before that there's many reasons people were denied government help. Labelling them as tax dodgers is vile.
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 3, 2022 20:24:56 GMT
A couple of my mates who happen to be self employed also got the help they needed It seems to me that many of the ones that seemed to get no help had spent years avoiding or paying as little tax as possible Though I’m sure there were people who deserved help that didn’t get it If you had only recently set up as self employed when they told you that you couldn't work, you didn't have years of tax returns to show. Can't you get your head around that? I'm sure its been pointed out to you before that there's many reasons people were denied government help. Labelling them as tax dodgers is vile. I haven’t used the term tax dodgers anywhere And even if I had It wouldn’t be half as vile as people calling Tory’s the c word Along with fellow like minded vile posters liking there posts
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Post by yeswilko on Feb 3, 2022 20:32:05 GMT
If you had only recently set up as self employed when they told you that you couldn't work, you didn't have years of tax returns to show. Can't you get your head around that? I'm sure its been pointed out to you before that there's many reasons people were denied government help. Labelling them as tax dodgers is vile. I haven’t used the term tax dodgers anywhere And even if I had It wouldn’t be half as vile as people calling Tory’s the c word Along with fellow like minded vile posters liking there posts That's not vile it's true.
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 3, 2022 20:33:59 GMT
I haven’t used the term tax dodgers anywhere And even if I had It wouldn’t be half as vile as people calling Tory’s the c word Along with fellow like minded vile posters liking there posts That's not vile it's true. Disgusting but I expect no better
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Post by yeswilko on Feb 3, 2022 20:36:46 GMT
That's not vile it's true. Disgusting but I expect no better What's disgusting is you defending that scumbag Sunak when he let 3 million workers rot. You really are unbelievable.
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 3, 2022 20:39:16 GMT
Wouldn’t Savid Javid be in with a shout? Been totally out of his depth as Health Secretary, badly managed the mandatory vaccination policy and been publicly humiliated by NHS staff.
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Post by dutchstokie on Feb 3, 2022 20:48:09 GMT
Wouldn’t Savid Javid be in with a shout? Been totally out of his depth as Health Secretary, badly managed the mandatory vaccination policy and been publicly humiliated by NHS staff. Aye I’ve been listening to his waffle over the last few weeks. Multiple posters including myself have pointed out that they’re all as corrupt as wacht other, whether that be The Greens, Labour, Tory, Lib Dems. It’s just funny reading peoples comments and getting all hot under the collar, when theirs fuck all they can do right now. When Labour get in , everybody switches standpoint and so the whole sorry charade gets re-set and off we go again……
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 3, 2022 20:49:04 GMT
Disgusting but I expect no better What's disgusting is you defending that scumbag Sunak when he let 3 million workers rot. You really are unbelievable. What is disgusting is the collective labelling of around 180 thousand people as c***s just because there members of a political party you seem to disagree with Or are you extending it to people that voted for them as well Can you post where I’ve defended sunak
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Post by brotherleelove on Feb 3, 2022 20:54:17 GMT
What's disgusting is you defending that scumbag Sunak when he let 3 million workers rot. You really are unbelievable. What is disgusting is the collective labelling of around 180 thousand people as c***s just because there members of a political party you seem to disagree with Or are you extending it to people that voted for them as well Can you post where I’ve defended sunak Angela Rainer wasnt far from calling the Tories cunts when she branded them "scum".
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Post by dutchstokie on Feb 3, 2022 20:56:18 GMT
Disgusting but I expect no better What's disgusting is you defending that scumbag Sunak when he let 3 million workers rot. You really are unbelievable. Where have they rotted away to then? Absolute nonsense
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