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Post by ChesterStokie on Nov 21, 2022 0:12:29 GMT
Will FIFA allow England to take the knee? FIFA are going to have to instruct their referee to allow or not allow it. What would the ref do, book the entire team? So that anybody who was booked during the game was immediately sent off? The match would turn into a farce. Well if FIFA don't sanction it then England are going to have to take the knee well before kick off otherwise when the teams are all lined up for kick off and the ref blows the whistle and England take the knee then Iran could just kick off and put the ball in the net whilst the England players are all down on their knees.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2022 0:19:41 GMT
That is their laws derived from religious sharia laws, FIFA picked that country to host the World Cup, FIFA is the problem! There is no way on earth you are going to change that over there. As for the meaningless statements these media journalistitutes make in the tv studios over there, don't you think the Qatari authorities are not prepared for this and will turn the other cheek for the duration. Why aren’t you? I don’t think it’s guaranteed and I do think it’s tough but there are also more moderate Arab countries and you only have to look at Iran and the undercurrent of discontent to see that’s it’s not far from the surface. And why not try? To admit defeat seems a bit daft to me. Personally I want rid of all these charities using sport to get their cause across to just **** off and leave me alone. The one pleasure I used to get out of life watching sport and attending sporting events no longer exists, its been turned into a misery and vehicle for promoting injustice in the world.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 21, 2022 0:27:11 GMT
What would the ref do, book the entire team? So that anybody who was booked during the game was immediately sent off? The match would turn into a farce. Well if FIFA don't sanction it then England are going to have to take the knee well before kick off otherwise when the teams are all lined up for kick off and the ref blows the whistle and England take the knee then Iran could just kick off and put the ball in the net whilst the England players are all down on their knees. Oh could you imagine that! I wonder what the England players would do? 😄
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2022 0:30:25 GMT
Well if FIFA don't sanction it then England are going to have to take the knee well before kick off otherwise when the teams are all lined up for kick off and the ref blows the whistle and England take the knee then Iran could just kick off and put the ball in the net whilst the England players are all down on their knees. Oh could you imagine that! I wonder what the England players would do? 😄 not without precedence
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 21, 2022 0:33:47 GMT
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Post by cvillestokie on Nov 21, 2022 1:22:45 GMT
Head of football sat next to an incredibly powerful figure across a region that includes where that football game is taking place. What a non-story.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 21, 2022 1:53:29 GMT
Head of football sat next to an incredibly powerful figure across a region that includes where that football game is taking place. What a non-story. After the controversy of FIFA awarding the 2022 World Cup to Qatar, you consider Saudia Arabia bidding for the 2030 World Cup to be a complete non-story? Well I can assure you, it absolutely it is and will be one. Furthermore, I can only assume that you're unaware of the diplomatic tensions that have existed between Qatar and Saudia Arabia until very recently and it's actually indeed a big deal that he's in attendance.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 21, 2022 1:58:45 GMT
Head of football sat next to an incredibly powerful figure across a region that includes where that football game is taking place. What a non-story. After the controversy of FIFA awarding the 2022 World Cup to Qatar, you consider Saudia Arabia bidding for the 2030 World Cup to be a complete non-story? Well I can assure you, it absolutely it is and will be one. Furthermore, I can only assume that you're unaware of the diplomatic tensions that have existed between Qatar and Saudia Arabia until very recently and it's actually indeed a big deal that he's in attendance. And actually big in regards to the issues a few on here want to address - energy prices. These two fuckers (Qatar and Saudi) have played very big parts in making sure the prices stay high by not increasing production. another reason to shun then. And why the “green agenda”, what a cunty term is so damn important so we aren’t dependent on these fuckers for much longer.
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Post by biddulphchav on Nov 21, 2022 7:16:13 GMT
After the controversy of FIFA awarding the 2022 World Cup to Qatar, you consider Saudia Arabia bidding for the 2030 World Cup to be a complete non-story? Well I can assure you, it absolutely it is and will be one. Furthermore, I can only assume that you're unaware of the diplomatic tensions that have existed between Qatar and Saudia Arabia until very recently and it's actually indeed a big deal that he's in attendance. And actually big in regards to the issues a few on here want to address - energy prices. These two fuckers (Qatar and Saudi) have played very big parts in making sure the prices stay high by not increasing production. another reason to shun then. And why the “green agenda”, what a cunty term is so damn important so we aren’t dependent on these fuckers for much longer. Prices don’t stay high in Saudi or in Qatar - in fact prices are extremely low there. Why should they increase production now? Did we subsidise their budget when prices were at 20 bucks a barrel a couple of years ago? It’s a market and that’s how they work….and what’s more, we ourselves are sitting on a shit ton of gas, but we totally failed to put forward a soundly engineered case to get it out of the ground cos it’s easier to blame the Arabs or Putin.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 21, 2022 7:56:17 GMT
And actually big in regards to the issues a few on here want to address - energy prices. These two fuckers (Qatar and Saudi) have played very big parts in making sure the prices stay high by not increasing production. another reason to shun then. And why the “green agenda”, what a cunty term is so damn important so we aren’t dependent on these fuckers for much longer. Prices don’t stay high in Saudi or in Qatar - in fact prices are extremely low there. Why should they increase production now? Did we subsidise their budget when prices were at 20 bucks a barrel a couple of years ago? It’s a market and that’s how they work….and what’s more, we ourselves are sitting on a shit ton of gas, but we totally failed to put forward a soundly engineered case to get it out of the ground cos it’s easier to blame the Arabs or Putin. And that’s why we need to use less of it so we’re not so tied to maniacs.
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Post by andystokey on Nov 21, 2022 8:40:15 GMT
I've lost count how many times the word hypocrisy has been chucked around on on here as an excuse to watch the matches or to defend the Qatar regime or bash anyone that speaks out. As usual it seems to be the powerless fault.
Yet no one has mentioned the rank hypocrisy of FIFA who pretend to believe one thing and do another. They are supposed to have the game's best interests at heart around the globe. Well they dont. It is they that have openly discouraged racism and discrimination of all kinds. They should be messaging our kids about what is good and what is unacceptable. It is they that have promoted the women's game yet chose a country where women have no rights.
Infantino is the latest in a long list of gangsters. Sucking up to the Saudi crown Prince (a murderer), polishing his medal of honour from Putin (a war criminal).
Regardless of the country FIFA are the hypocrites and there is no defending them. I'll be using the next few weeks to watch grass roots football and remind myself why I love the game and not why I hate it.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 21, 2022 8:41:02 GMT
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Post by knype on Nov 21, 2022 8:44:08 GMT
No interest in watching it or the virtue signalling tossers who have gone over there and taken the blood money. The Kane armband and taking the knee bollocks will achieve absolutely nothing anyway...
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 21, 2022 9:10:48 GMT
No interest in watching it or the virtue signalling tossers who have gone over there and taken the blood money. The Kane armband and taking the knee bollocks will achieve absolutely nothing anyway... Are you homosexual? If not, what do you know about how the England captain wearing a rainbow armband for all the world to see makes a homosexual feel? Have you been subjected to racism? If not, what do you know about how the England team making a symbolic gesture against racism makes those who have been racially abused feel? What difference to you does it make to your life whether or not they take a knee or wear a rainbow armband? Or are your objections just based on prejudice?
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 21, 2022 9:13:24 GMT
The whole squad, and all members of all squads who also support the cause, should dye their hair in rainbow colours.
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Post by Veritas on Nov 21, 2022 9:15:13 GMT
FA in potential lily livered u-turn shocker!
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Post by toppercorner on Nov 21, 2022 9:33:58 GMT
Head of football sat next to an incredibly powerful figure across a region that includes where that football game is taking place. What a non-story. head of football sat next to man directly implicated in the gruesome murder of a journalist in another country to his own.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 21, 2022 10:04:25 GMT
Harry Kane will no longer wear the 'One Love' armband in England's opening match at the World Cup. The rainbow armband was due to be worn to promote diversity and inclusion in Qatar, where same-sex relationships are outlawed. England, Wales and seven other countries announced they were committing to donning the armband in the build-up to the tournament. However, in an eleventh-hour U-turn, an FA statement on Monday morning said: "FIFA has been very clear that it will impose sporting sanctions if our captains wear the armbands on the field of play. As national federations, we can’t put our players in a position where they could face sporting sanctions including bookings, so we have asked the captains not to attempt to wear the armbands in FIFA World Cup games. www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-harry-kane-onelove-worldcup-28543698
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 21, 2022 10:11:56 GMT
As I said yesterday all these teams that were going to wear this armband and are now not allowed should in my opinion walkout of the tournament
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Post by xchpotter on Nov 21, 2022 10:17:06 GMT
Wow, if Kane and England bottle it, it won’t do much for the message and will leave them open to ridicule when they get back home. They should follow Stan Cullis’ example if they really believe in the cause and are against oppression, if they don’t then leave it alone as it undermines the message. footyanalyst.com/stan-cullis-jack-kirby-and-english-footballs-nazi-salute/
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 21, 2022 10:17:26 GMT
As I said yesterday all these teams that were going to wear this armband and are now not allowed should in my opinion walkout of the tournament It'd be interesting to see what would happen, if the entire team walked out with them on. The referee isn't going to book each and everyone of them, meaning that for the whole game, any booking would instantly mean the yellow turned into a sending off, the match would become a complete farce.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 21, 2022 10:20:01 GMT
As I said yesterday all these teams that were going to wear this armband and are now not allowed should in my opinion walkout of the tournament It'd be interesting to see what would happen, if the entire team walked out with them on. The referee isn't going to book each and everyone of them, meaning that for the whole game, any booking would instantly mean the yellow turned into a sending off, the match would become a complete farce. I wouldn’t put it past FIFA to sanction the refs to book every single player would you? In any case no one will be wearing the armband. Maybe rainbow pants with some cheeky flashes during the game😉
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 21, 2022 10:24:22 GMT
Harry Kane will no longer wear the 'One Love' armband in England's opening match at the World Cup. The rainbow armband was due to be worn to promote diversity and inclusion in Qatar, where same-sex relationships are outlawed. England, Wales and seven other countries announced they were committing to donning the armband in the build-up to the tournament. However, in an eleventh-hour U-turn, an FA statement on Monday morning said: "FIFA has been very clear that it will impose sporting sanctions if our captains wear the armbands on the field of play. As national federations, we can’t put our players in a position where they could face sporting sanctions including bookings, so we have asked the captains not to attempt to wear the armbands in FIFA World Cup games. www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-harry-kane-onelove-worldcup-28543698Absolute cowards. What a terrible message. Have they not learnt anything? This appeasement does nothing but empower these people to go further.
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 21, 2022 10:26:09 GMT
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 21, 2022 10:28:51 GMT
Harry Kane will no longer wear the 'One Love' armband in England's opening match at the World Cup. The rainbow armband was due to be worn to promote diversity and inclusion in Qatar, where same-sex relationships are outlawed. England, Wales and seven other countries announced they were committing to donning the armband in the build-up to the tournament. However, in an eleventh-hour U-turn, an FA statement on Monday morning said: "FIFA has been very clear that it will impose sporting sanctions if our captains wear the armbands on the field of play. As national federations, we can’t put our players in a position where they could face sporting sanctions including bookings, so we have asked the captains not to attempt to wear the armbands in FIFA World Cup games. www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-harry-kane-onelove-worldcup-28543698Absolute cowards. What a terrible message. Have they not learnt anything? This appeasement does nothing but empower these people to go further. I think this is something that will come back to bite the FA and so it should. This should have been sorted out out months/years ago and to say they sent a letter which wasn't replied to, is absolutely pathetic.
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Post by xchpotter on Nov 21, 2022 10:37:52 GMT
Looks like it’s going official now news.sky.com/This is an incredible amount of damage to be caused. I expect they will dare to continue the message once safely at home. I can see this being the beginning of the end for taking the knee at home……I mean how can you have confidence in this lot if they don’t have the balls to do it where the message is most powerful? Shameful bunch, but I suspected they would fold.
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Post by andystokey on Nov 21, 2022 10:43:46 GMT
No interest in watching it or the virtue signalling tossers who have gone over there and taken the blood money. The Kane armband and taking the knee bollocks will achieve absolutely nothing anyway... Are you homosexual? If not, what do you know about how the England captain wearing a rainbow armband for all the world to see makes a homosexual feel? Have you been subjected to racism? If not, what do you know about how the England team making a symbolic gesture against racism makes those who have been racially abused feel? What difference to you does it make to your life whether or not they take a knee or wear a rainbow armband? Or are your objections just based on prejudice? You've clearly pointed out why Infantino's pathetic strop was so ill judged. He isn't homosexual, disabled or a migrant worker and has no idea. He stole their voices for his own ends and corrupted their message to support Fifa's money making agenda. He IS however a complete gangster and a cnut.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Nov 21, 2022 10:45:49 GMT
This last day could have been avoided early doors by just not going and boycotting it straight off before the qualifications started. If we’d have done that then we truly would have sent the very strongest message possible out. Maybe after this latest development those speaking so strongly from the media can walk out on moral grounds and stuff there pay. It’s a mess. In future world cups should only be played in Europe and South America.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2022 10:47:06 GMT
After the controversy of FIFA awarding the 2022 World Cup to Qatar, you consider Saudia Arabia bidding for the 2030 World Cup to be a complete non-story? Well I can assure you, it absolutely it is and will be one. Furthermore, I can only assume that you're unaware of the diplomatic tensions that have existed between Qatar and Saudia Arabia until very recently and it's actually indeed a big deal that he's in attendance. And actually big in regards to the issues a few on here want to address - energy prices. These two fuckers (Qatar and Saudi) have played very big parts in making sure the prices stay high by not increasing production. another reason to shun then. And why the “green agenda”, what a cunty term is so damn important so we aren’t dependent on these fuckers for much longer. You are just so far gone its unbelievable!
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Post by noustie on Nov 21, 2022 10:49:13 GMT
No interest in watching it or the virtue signalling tossers who have gone over there and taken the blood money. The Kane armband and taking the knee bollocks will achieve absolutely nothing anyway... Are you homosexual? If not, what do you know about how the England captain wearing a rainbow armband for all the world to see makes a homosexual feel? Have you been subjected to racism? If not, what do you know about how the England team making a symbolic gesture against racism makes those who have been racially abused feel? What difference to you does it make to your life whether or not they take a knee or wear a rainbow armband? Or are your objections just based on prejudice? The issue for me with that is England are taking the knee so presumably feel comfortable they understand the systemic issues black people still experienced following slavery in enough depth to commit; they understood all the colours of the rainbow sufficiently to wear an armband until the FA stopped them but; Southgate didn’t feel suitably up to speed on women’s rights in Iran for them to protest on it (Kane to wear a Hijab maybe?). If he’s said himself they feel unqualified to comment on something happening there how are they qualified to make a statement regarding Qatar and predominantly the US? Surely commenting on these and not protesting for women’s rights is discriminatory in itself as picking and choosing the causes that warrant virtue.
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