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Post by thevoid on Nov 30, 2021 23:26:11 GMT
do you ever wonder why the red wall is now blue ? Well the electorate always get the Government they deserve and by electing an idiot to power they have ensured they are well represented….. Are you saying most people are idiots?
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Post by thevoid on Nov 30, 2021 23:28:49 GMT
Let me get this right, the fish are ours but the migrants should be French? Mm…. Yes because the two are comparable aren't they...
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Nov 30, 2021 23:43:04 GMT
Let me get this right, the fish are ours but the migrants should be French? Mm…. You are conflating two different scenarios, but in a sense you are correct. In another sense, fish don't actually belong to humans....it is that presumption, that humans own everything on the planet, that has caused the biggest issue facing the planet, the environmental crisis.
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Post by foster on Nov 30, 2021 23:52:59 GMT
Well the electorate always get the Government they deserve and by electing an idiot to power they have ensured they are well represented….. Are you saying most people are idiots? The fact that you have to ask kind of proves his point doesn't it. 😉
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Post by thevoid on Dec 1, 2021 0:09:14 GMT
Are you saying most people are idiots? The fact that you have to ask kind of proves his point doesn't it. 😉 What is his point?
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 1, 2021 0:20:30 GMT
At least we agree on immigration. If people voted leave for the "wrong reason", that suits me. Massive job vacancies is good for my young relatives graduating from Oxford and Durham in the next couple of years. Good for low paid. Good for Britain in the long term as it will drive automation, robotics, and more labour efficient business and improve our relatively poor productivity compared with a lot of countries. The better off people are the more government will raise in taxes for welfare etc. Personally I expect immigration will continue at a high level. Aside from needing people in NHS etc., hospitality, etc. which cannot be automated, we also need scientist, researchers, engineers, etc. The government makes announcements like £98 billion investment in rail, green technology, etc but we don't have enough people to deliver it. I expect immigration from Hong Kong into London financial services, and a steady flow of craftsmen from Eastern Europe despite Brexit. The government will be forced to issue temporary visas for more occupations in short supply like drivers and butchers, and reduce the threshold of terms for settlement. In the long term I expect higher immigration from India and other countries further east. I think the refugee issue will get worse not better driven by climate change as well as political unrest. Huge populations in island countries will be driven out by rising sea level, and bad weather. Trouble is Brexit has ensured that jobs across Europe will be scarce for qualified graduates and most of the job vacancies will be for lower paid work which immigrants have undertaken historically. Immigrants tend to have younger families and our population is ageing and will become even more disproportionate with fewer younger workers. This makes for an unhealthy economy (and population) in the long term as the tax burden will increase in order to support older people. There is no ban on immigration or visas to fill jobs that need to be filled. See links at bottom of post. It will be more difficult for talented people who have been educated in the UK to leave the country. Immigration to the UK will continue at the same historic level. 2020 saw a huge drop due to the pandemic but by March 2021 the number of work visa issued were higher than March 2020 and March 2019. The UK will continue to be one of the most attractive countries in the world for people to move to. The tax burden is light in the UK compared with many EU countries. ifs.org.uk/taxlab/key-questions/how-do-uk-tax-revenues-compare-internationallyIf there is any country going to suffer from adverse demographics it is Germany: arc.aarpinternational.org/countries/germanywww.gov.uk/guidance/recruiting-people-from-outside-the-ukwww.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-citizens-familiesmovejobs.uk/uk-immigration-and-high-demand-job-sectors/www.gov.uk/government/publications/skilled-worker-visa-shortage-occupations/skilled-worker-visa-shortage-occupationswww.gov.uk/government/publications/skilled-worker-visa-eligible-occupations/skilled-worker-visa-eligible-occupations-and-codes
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Post by Northy on Dec 1, 2021 8:40:21 GMT
Maybe they don't want people who don't respect the views of the countries they want to come to or are taken in by. Sweden, most convicted rapes are by foreigners www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45269764So don’t rescue drowning human beings in the Channel because of Swedish rape statistics? Odd take….. Same thing in Germany, and most knife crimes here. I think you know the meaning of it as explained in the first sentence, people are getting fed up of their towns and cities turning into places they don't recognise and paying taxes to make it happen, as well as paying taxes for foreign aid (where lots was stolen by corrupt officials), the system is broken and needs an overhaul.
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Post by Northy on Dec 1, 2021 8:45:08 GMT
Let me get this right, the fish are ours but the migrants should be French? Mm…. Nope, the fish in our waters are ours to fish, the fish in French waters are the EU's to fish, so migrants in the EU are the EU's ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif)
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 1, 2021 8:58:35 GMT
So don’t rescue drowning human beings in the Channel because of Swedish rape statistics? Odd take….. Same thing in Germany, and most knife crimes here. I think you know the meaning of it as explained in the first sentence, people are getting fed up of their towns and cities turning into places they don't recognise and paying taxes to make it happen, as well as paying taxes for foreign aid (where lots was stolen by corrupt officials), the system is broken and needs an overhaul. “Most knife crimes here” are caused by migrants/refugees? Have you got the stats on that or is it just an emotive, sweeping statement?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Dec 1, 2021 10:03:40 GMT
So don’t rescue drowning human beings in the Channel because of Swedish rape statistics? Odd take….. Same thing in Germany, and most knife crimes here. I think you know the meaning of it as explained in the first sentence, people are getting fed up of their towns and cities turning into places they don't recognise and paying taxes to make it happen, as well as paying taxes for foreign aid (where lots was stolen by corrupt officials), the system is broken and needs an overhaul. From your link: "When Sweden took in its highest number of asylum seekers in 2015, the number of reported rapes declined by 12%." And yet, no-one seems remotely bothered when our own government takes our taxes and gives it to their pub landlord mates to make a handsome profit from Covid...wonder what the difference is between foreign aid corruption being something people are fed up with and internal corruption not being worthy of getting fed up with? Surely it's not just as simple as people not really minding about corruption as long as it benefits "our own" and not "others"? There's that out-group dehumanisation, again. Incidentally, for all those who equally hate the idea of immigrants coming to the UK and the "eco-con", you'd best get used to the idea of immigrants if we don't move to tackle the climate crisis.
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Post by yeswilko on Dec 1, 2021 18:09:35 GMT
So don’t rescue drowning human beings in the Channel because of Swedish rape statistics? Odd take….. Same thing in Germany, and most knife crimes here. I think you know the meaning of it as explained in the first sentence, people are getting fed up of their towns and cities turning into places they don't recognise and paying taxes to make it happen, as well as paying taxes for foreign aid (where lots was stolen by corrupt officials), the system is broken and needs an overhaul. What do you mean by "towns and cities turning into places they don't recognise" ? Also are you talking about other people here or yourself?
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Post by foster on Dec 1, 2021 18:11:22 GMT
Same thing in Germany, and most knife crimes here. I think you know the meaning of it as explained in the first sentence, people are getting fed up of their towns and cities turning into places they don't recognise and paying taxes to make it happen, as well as paying taxes for foreign aid (where lots was stolen by corrupt officials), the system is broken and needs an overhaul. From your link: "When Sweden took in its highest number of asylum seekers in 2015, the number of reported rapes declined by 12%." And yet, no-one seems remotely bothered when our own government takes our taxes and gives it to their pub landlord mates to make a handsome profit from Covid...wonder what the difference is between foreign aid corruption being something people are fed up with and internal corruption not being worthy of getting fed up with? Surely it's not just as simple as people not really minding about corruption as long as it benefits "our own" and not "others"? There's that out-group dehumanisation, again. Incidentally, for all those who equally hate the idea of immigrants coming to the UK and the "eco-con", you'd best get used to the idea of immigrants if we don't move to tackle the climate crisis. So to conclude, it seems that native Swedes are good at getting away with rape. As for climate, no chance. We're fucked. Well, they are, until they come here...and then they're fucked again.
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Post by yeswilko on Dec 1, 2021 18:16:25 GMT
Same thing in Germany, and most knife crimes here. I think you know the meaning of it as explained in the first sentence, people are getting fed up of their towns and cities turning into places they don't recognise and paying taxes to make it happen, as well as paying taxes for foreign aid (where lots was stolen by corrupt officials), the system is broken and needs an overhaul. “Most knife crimes here” are caused by migrants/refugees? Have you got the stats on that or is it just an emotive, sweeping statement? Seems it's around 60% white 40% black/minority ethnic for knife crime in England and Wales.
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Post by foster on Dec 1, 2021 18:21:35 GMT
“Most knife crimes here” are caused by migrants/refugees? Have you got the stats on that or is it just an emotive, sweeping statement? Seems it's around 60% white 40% black/minority ethnic for knife crime in England and Wales. Proportionate representation down the shitter then. I'm amazed by how many people post 'facts' without using common sense. Last time I checked the UK wasn't made up of 40% black/ethnic minority. Come on for fucks sake. Use your brain.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 1, 2021 18:24:37 GMT
Seems it's around 60% white 40% black/minority ethnic for knife crime in England and Wales. Proportionate representation down the shitter then. I'm amazed by how many people post 'facts' without using common sense. Last time I checked the UK wasn't made up of 40% black/ethnic minority. Come on for fucks sake. Use your brain. The original comment from Northy was that immigrants are "mostly" responsible for knife crime, I asked him to show me the data as my gut feeling is it's complete hogwash.......
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Post by yeswilko on Dec 1, 2021 18:30:30 GMT
Seems it's around 60% white 40% black/minority ethnic for knife crime in England and Wales. Proportionate representation down the shitter then. I'm amazed by how many people post 'facts' without using common sense. Last time I checked the UK wasn't made up of 40% black/ethnic minority. Come on for fucks sake. Use your brain. Stats are for knife crime offenders darling
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Post by foster on Dec 1, 2021 18:44:48 GMT
Proportionate representation down the shitter then. I'm amazed by how many people post 'facts' without using common sense. Last time I checked the UK wasn't made up of 40% black/ethnic minority. Come on for fucks sake. Use your brain. Stats are for knife crime offenders darling I know
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Post by foster on Dec 1, 2021 18:48:31 GMT
Proportionate representation down the shitter then. I'm amazed by how many people post 'facts' without using common sense. Last time I checked the UK wasn't made up of 40% black/ethnic minority. Come on for fucks sake. Use your brain. The original comment from Northy was that immigrants are "mostly" responsible for knife crime, I asked him to show me the data as my gut feeling is it's complete hogwash....... To be fair, it looks like black and non white are disproportionately represented. So as a percentage of their ethnicity they are over represented and commit more crimes.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 1, 2021 18:51:19 GMT
The original comment from Northy was that immigrants are "mostly" responsible for knife crime, I asked him to show me the data as my gut feeling is it's complete hogwash....... To be fair, it looks like black and non white are disproportionately represented. So as a percentage of their ethnicity they are over represented and commit more crimes. That doesn’t prove anything when it comes to immigrants though, in London particularly a lot of the black gangs are British born I would imagine…..
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Post by foster on Dec 1, 2021 18:52:22 GMT
To be fair, it looks like black and non white are disproportionately represented. So as a percentage of their ethnicity they are over represented and commit more crimes. That doesn’t prove anything when it comes to immigrants though, in London particularly a lot of the black gangs are British born I would imagine….. I agree. Nothing really to do with immigrants.
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 2, 2021 13:28:34 GMT
That doesn’t prove anything when it comes to immigrants though, in London particularly a lot of the black gangs are British born I would imagine….. I agree. Nothing really to do with immigrants. London has become a hotbed for international and migrant gangs , Google it and look then put the link on as honestly I’m to old to know how to do it
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Post by foster on Dec 2, 2021 13:44:56 GMT
I agree. Nothing really to do with immigrants. London has become a hotbed for international and migrant gangs , Google it and look then put the link on as honestly I’m to old to know how to do it If you're not too old to use a search engine (google) then you're not too old to do a basic copy/paste of a web address (URL). Copy a URL (address)Highlight the address. After the address is highlighted, press Ctrl + C on the keyboard to copy it. Once the address is copied, paste that address into your oatcake post by pressing Ctrl + V. Alternatively, you can always just use your right mouse button...(right click 'copy', then right click 'paste').
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 2, 2021 16:33:01 GMT
London has become a hotbed for international and migrant gangs , Google it and look then put the link on as honestly I’m to old to know how to do it If you're not too old to use a search engine (google) then you're not too old to do a basic copy/paste of a web address (URL). Copy a URL (address)Highlight the address. After the address is highlighted, press Ctrl + C on the keyboard to copy it. Once the address is copied, paste that address into your oatcake post by pressing Ctrl + V. Alternatively, you can always just use your right mouse button...(right click 'copy', then right click 'paste'). I will have a go but remember I left school in 1977 and maybe space invaders was out then or just after
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 9, 2021 12:42:20 GMT
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Post by phileetin on Dec 9, 2021 12:44:41 GMT
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Post by hoffgreen on Dec 11, 2021 10:30:28 GMT
Jcn 15 M6, Holiday Inn. Is that place being used to house dinghy people? Entrance all coned off when I drove past the other day.
If it is I hope the local residents have been warned.
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 20, 2021 15:14:17 GMT
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 20, 2021 18:13:58 GMT
Should be after the people who supplied the faulty dinghy , the ppl smugglers
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Post by mrcoke on Feb 2, 2022 10:29:37 GMT
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Post by dutchstokie on Feb 2, 2022 10:51:40 GMT
"Dear Emmanuel, Fuck off. Love Boris"
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