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Collins
Jul 1, 2022 6:59:01 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jul 1, 2022 6:59:01 GMT
What’s our sell on clause? We don't know but Sentinel described as 'substantial' So presumably at least 20% Don’t know of % of anything above £12m or straight % of the fee
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jul 1, 2022 10:48:59 GMT
What’s our sell on clause? We don't know but Sentinel described as 'substantial' So presumably at least 20% Don’t know of % of anything above £12m or straight % of the fee Lowest I’ve seen suggested is 15% and the most 25% so anywhere in that range. We just need it to happen sooner rather than later.
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Post by lordb on Jul 1, 2022 11:27:51 GMT
We don't know but Sentinel described as 'substantial' So presumably at least 20% Don’t know of % of anything above £12m or straight % of the fee Lowest I’ve seen suggested is 15% and the most 25% so anywhere in that range. We just need it to happen sooner rather than later. 'puts uber cynical hat on', perhaps it would be best if he was sold last day of the window & new manager gets that cash for January window harsh I know alternatively O'Neill proves us all wrong & we are flying into Jna window & he gets that cash to sign one or even two decent players to keep it going
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Collins
Jul 1, 2022 11:57:29 GMT
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Post by cvillestokie on Jul 1, 2022 11:57:29 GMT
Lowest I’ve seen suggested is 15% and the most 25% so anywhere in that range. We just need it to happen sooner rather than later. 'puts uber cynical hat on', perhaps it would be best if he was sold last day of the window & new manager gets that cash for January window harsh I know alternatively O'Neill proves us all wrong & we are flying into Jna window & he gets that cash to sign one or even two decent players to keep it going I’d imagine we’d need some money to bring in a striker though? Unless we go for someone like Grabban or Carroll on a free.
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Post by LGH87 on Jul 11, 2022 15:52:25 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 11, 2022 15:52:54 GMT
Wouldn't get us much, would it?
£1m-£1.5m?
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Post by LGH87 on Jul 11, 2022 15:54:03 GMT
Wouldn't get us much, would it? if it's 20% of any profit it would be £1.6m, would probably fund a couple of loans and maybe even a cash deal for someone.
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Collins
Jul 11, 2022 15:54:18 GMT
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Post by chamberlain on Jul 11, 2022 15:54:18 GMT
Wouldn't get us much, would it? £1m-£1.5m? No very disappointing
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Collins
Jul 11, 2022 15:55:04 GMT
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jul 11, 2022 15:55:04 GMT
Wouldn't get us much, would it? £1m-£1.5m? Why is it 20% of profit? Is that usually the case? Assume someone has confirmed it. Thought it would just be a flat fee on the gross selling price?
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Jul 11, 2022 15:58:10 GMT
Wouldn't get us much, would it? £1m-£1.5m? Why is it 20% of profit? Is that usually the case? Assume someone has confirmed it. Thought it would just be a flat fee on the gross selling price? Yeah it's usually that.
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Post by thebet365 on Jul 11, 2022 15:59:19 GMT
Wouldn't get us much, would it? £1m-£1.5m? Why is it 20% of profit? Is that usually the case? Assume someone has confirmed it. Thought it would just be a flat fee on the gross selling price? I've always thought when fees have been involved it's always just on the profit element ? Otherwise clubs could be in a position where they've paid say 10 million for a player, he flops so they sell him on for 5 million but they'd still then be looking at having to give a million of that away too.
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Post by werrington on Jul 11, 2022 16:01:04 GMT
Wouldn't get us much, would it? £1m-£1.5m? Why is it 20% of profit? Is that usually the case? Assume someone has confirmed it. Thought it would just be a flat fee on the gross selling price? It’s ( whatever percentage agreed ) anything over and above the fee we received So it’s a percentage of anything over £12m
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Post by LGH87 on Jul 11, 2022 16:01:29 GMT
Anything over £1m will probably fund the Keinan Davis loan (if indeed we are in for him) / mystery striker and would probably explain why Pete Smith alluded to us having a new striker in the next week or so.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 11, 2022 16:02:49 GMT
Wouldn't get us much, would it? £1m-£1.5m? Why is it 20% of profit? Is that usually the case? Assume someone has confirmed it. Thought it would just be a flat fee on the gross selling price? No - haven't seen any confirmation it's % of profit rather than just a flat sell-on clause I think they can work either way - but just get the impression % of profit clauses are far more common. www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/breaking-taiwo-awoniyi-liverpool-transfer-24314383Liverpool, though, had a straight 10% clause on the forward that just went to Forest
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Post by lordb on Jul 11, 2022 16:03:44 GMT
Bad news for Stoke that bad news for Burnley too good news for Wolves
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2022 16:05:07 GMT
Doesn't get Burnley much, surprised they aren't holding out for more as I assume he's got a few more years on his contract yet?
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Collins
Jul 11, 2022 16:08:25 GMT
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jul 11, 2022 16:08:25 GMT
Anything over £1m will probably fund the Keinan Davis loan (if indeed we are in for him) / mystery striker and would probably explain why Pete Smith alluded to us having a new striker in the next week or so. Hopefully that would be nice. There must be room on the wage bill if we’re after another 3ish. If we can do that one the others will depend on the formation he wants to go for.
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Post by lordb on Jul 11, 2022 16:08:47 GMT
Doesn't get Burnley much, surprised they aren't holding out for more as I assume he's got a few more years on his contract yet? Burnley are desperate for money but yes, been lots of noise re bigger offers & lots of clubs in for him presumably it was just noise
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Post by crouchbot on Jul 11, 2022 16:18:45 GMT
Nixon (I know, I know) is hinting that he’s going for much more than what Percy said.
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Collins
Jul 11, 2022 16:19:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2022 16:19:20 GMT
Doesn't get Burnley much, surprised they aren't holding out for more as I assume he's got a few more years on his contract yet? Burnley are desperate for money but yes, been lots of noise re bigger offers & lots of clubs in for him presumably it was just noise He didn't really start playing regularly until Dyche went so he is still a work in progress. The big boys will probably see how he goes for another year before picking him up for about £40 million if his star continues to rise.
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Post by wherty on Jul 11, 2022 16:28:50 GMT
Ideally, Burnley would have e stayed up and Collins would have excelled, resulting his price going up another 8 to 10 million or so. I'm pretty sure it's 15% of the profit so 1.275 mill.
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Collins
Jul 11, 2022 16:43:46 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jul 11, 2022 16:43:46 GMT
Ideally, Burnley would have e stayed up and Collins would have excelled, resulting his price going up another 8 to 10 million or so. I'm pretty sure it's 15% of the profit so 1.275 mill. Wouldn't call that 'substantial' as the Sentinel said Doesn't make you incorrect mind
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Collins
Jul 11, 2022 16:57:28 GMT
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Post by questionable on Jul 11, 2022 16:57:28 GMT
Why is it 20% of profit? Is that usually the case? Assume someone has confirmed it. Thought it would just be a flat fee on the gross selling price? It’s ( whatever percentage agreed ) anything over and above the fee we received So it’s a percentage of anything over £12m Have Burnley actually paid us the full fee yet, if not would we get what’s owed plus a percentage?
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jul 11, 2022 17:00:04 GMT
Please Nathan anyone but wolves...anyone.
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Collins
Jul 11, 2022 17:05:04 GMT
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Post by questionable on Jul 11, 2022 17:05:04 GMT
Why is it 20% of profit? Is that usually the case? Assume someone has confirmed it. Thought it would just be a flat fee on the gross selling price? I've always thought when fees have been involved it's always just on the profit element ? Otherwise clubs could be in a position where they've paid say 10 million for a player, he flops so they sell him on for 5 million but they'd still then be looking at having to give a million of that away too. I’ve always assumed that you buy a player for X amount, turns out to be one of your prized assets for club and country and then you sell him for pretty much what you paid for him 🤨
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 11, 2022 17:05:38 GMT
Nixon claiming valuation not met yet, but can't imagine Percy taking that much of a flyer on the fee
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Collins
Jul 11, 2022 17:06:53 GMT
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Post by theonlooker on Jul 11, 2022 17:06:53 GMT
We get what we get and we have to deal with it and use it as best as we can.
On one hand, it's frustrating as we have owners that have the funds and desire to seriously invest but can't because of the stupid rules.
On the other hand, it's totally their fault for blowing the one opportunity we had when we handed the 50M+ war chest to an absolute imbecile. We knew the rules when we were throwing 19M around at Clucas, Woods and McClean and a further 22M at Ince and Afobe like pissed up, lairy idiots on a night out around Hanley.
We are now living through the hangover.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 11, 2022 17:19:12 GMT
Nixon claiming they will "probably settle for 30, one way or another".
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Collins
Jul 11, 2022 17:23:49 GMT
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Post by northernstokie on Jul 11, 2022 17:23:49 GMT
Nixon claiming they will "probably settle for 30, one way or another". 30m should be a nice bit of profit for us.
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Collins
Jul 11, 2022 17:24:07 GMT
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Post by crouchbot on Jul 11, 2022 17:24:07 GMT
Percy is better than Nixon, especially with midlands clubs. If Burnley get £30m it’ll be made up of add ons etc. the initial fee will be £20.5m or close too it, we all know Percy doesn’t tweet unless it’s on the money.
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