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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2023 13:37:30 GMT
I know mate. I remember thinking "that's a bit dark even for me".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2023 13:39:28 GMT
In situations like this, I strongly advocate for the application of the death penalty. Let her bear the consequences of her evil actions and be condemned to hell. Instinctively I have similar feelings, but also feel like a life to reflect on her depravity is arguably worse. Especially considering there was some evidence her conscience was tortured?
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Post by aureliuspotter on Aug 18, 2023 13:48:18 GMT
In situations like this, I strongly advocate for the application of the death penalty. Let her bear the consequences of her evil actions and be condemned to hell. Instinctively I have similar feelings, but also feel like a life to reflect on her depravity is arguably worse. Especially considering there was some evidence her conscience was tortured? . Certainly, a lifetime filled with guilt would undoubtedly be a torment in itself, especially if she possesses even a shred of conscience. I strongly suspect that, if she were to undergo a CT scan, it would likely reveal areas of her brain exhibiting dysfunction. It is difficult to fathom that a person of sound mind could commit the deeds she has done.
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Post by callas12 on Aug 18, 2023 14:00:39 GMT
I know mate. I remember thinking "that's a bit dark even for me". Fair do's mate.. I get what you mean though, that initial thought process when see the pics, under different cirqs though for sure.. Suppose convicted killers don't always look like one would expect them to. As reports are identifying, the face and and the uniform and the name badge are disguising well what was really happening & going on underneath.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2023 14:03:38 GMT
I know mate. I remember thinking "that's a bit dark even for me". Fair do's mate.. I get what you mean, that initial thought process when see the pics, under different cirqs though for sure.. Tbh I was just being firmly tongue in cheek and trying to be funny. (obviously failed) She’s certainly no prime Karla Homolka.
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Post by salopstick on Aug 18, 2023 14:06:54 GMT
In situations like this, I strongly advocate for the application of the death penalty. Let her bear the consequences of her evil actions and be condemned to hell. too many miscarriages of justice for me to have the death penalty
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2023 14:13:30 GMT
I hope they release footage of her first police interview after arrest. There are some excellent YouTube channels who do in depth analysis of these interviews and provide great insight.
But mainly I have a morbid fascination watching monsters realise their life is over.
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Post by salopstick on Aug 18, 2023 14:16:07 GMT
however the bitch shouldnt have the option of not attending her sentencing
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Aug 18, 2023 14:31:47 GMT
In situations like this, I strongly advocate for the application of the death penalty. Let her bear the consequences of her evil actions and be condemned to hell. too many miscarriages of justice for me to have the death penalty Many people would execute rapists, like Andy Malkinson for example...
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Post by werrington on Aug 18, 2023 14:32:26 GMT
In situations like this, I strongly advocate for the application of the death penalty. Let her bear the consequences of her evil actions and be condemned to hell. I don’t disagree but every murder is heinous so where do you draw the line as to what is a death penalty and what is life imprisonment? If somebody had murdered one of our loved ones we’d want them neutralised but in reality it would be life imprisonment …A murder is a murder and you can’t have different rules The same with people like the Krays or Ian Brady …..why is it life in prison with no parole for them but other murderers get it when in reality they are all guilty of the same thing Anyway that’s my take
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Aug 18, 2023 14:36:26 GMT
In situations like this, I strongly advocate for the application of the death penalty. Let her bear the consequences of her evil actions and be condemned to hell. I don’t disagree but every murder is heinous so where do you draw the line as to what is a death penalty and what is life imprisonment? If somebody had murdered one of our loved ones we’d want them neutralised but in reality it would be life imprisonment …A murder is a murder and you can’t have different rules The same with people like the Krays or Ian Brady …..why is it life in prison with no parole for them but other murderers get it when in reality they are all guilty of the same thing Anyway that’s my take Aside from salopstick's correct comment about too many innocent people being executed if you have the death penalty, why would anyone in a supposedly civilised society wish that society to lower itself to the same level as the person they so utterly despise by doing the same thing that they have done? I have no problem keeping murderers in prison for the duration of their lives and paying my taxes towards that. That way, if they are subsequently proven to be innocent, they are still alive and can be released. If the conviction is considered sound, they remain removed from society without the repetition by the state of the barbaric act that put that person in prison in the first place.
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Post by aureliuspotter on Aug 18, 2023 14:40:30 GMT
In situations like this, I strongly advocate for the application of the death penalty. Let her bear the consequences of her evil actions and be condemned to hell. I don’t disagree but every murder is heinous so where do you draw the line as to what is a death penalty and what is life imprisonment? If somebody had murdered one of our loved ones we’d want them neutralised but in reality it would be life imprisonment …A murder is a murder and you can’t have different rules The same with people like the Krays or Ian Brady …..why is it life in prison with no parole for them but other murderers get it when in reality they are all guilty of the same thing Anyway that’s my take I fully get your point, but I believe it ultimately depends on each individual's moral compass and how they perceive the severity of different crimes. While murder is universally condemned, most people would likely consider the killing of innocent babies as a more heinous act than the murder of an adult, whether justified or not. However, I do agree that laws and sentencing should be grounded in logic and rationality, rather than driven by emotions.
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Post by flea79 on Aug 18, 2023 16:12:14 GMT
John Sweeney has set out his thoughts on Twitter/X on this
he has a long history of investigating such cases and he has pointed out that the case bears strikingly similarities to the case of Sally Clark from 2002, she was accused and found guilty of murdering her two infant boys and was later acquitted
I imagine its not the last we have heard of this case at all
if she has done it then no place is dark enough for her i just hope its not another miscarriage of justice and a finger being pointed at what is plainly a disturbed person based on some stats....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2023 16:13:58 GMT
Something just doesn't feel right about this at all and I can't put my finger on it.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 18, 2023 16:21:46 GMT
In situations like this, I strongly advocate for the application of the death penalty. Let her bear the consequences of her evil actions and be condemned to hell. Is that you Crapslinger ? I wouldn't have thought so
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Post by stokeson on Aug 18, 2023 16:30:26 GMT
Something just doesn't feel right about this at all and I can't put my finger on it. I feel the same but the jury must have seen stuff we are not privey too.
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Post by werrington on Aug 18, 2023 16:31:43 GMT
Something just doesn't feel right about this at all and I can't put my finger on it. I feel the same but the jury must have seen stuff we are not privey too. Her personal diary
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 18, 2023 16:59:45 GMT
I feel the same but the jury must have seen stuff we are not privey too. Her personal diary What's in this diary?..
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Post by chuffedstokie on Aug 18, 2023 17:20:22 GMT
too many miscarriages of justice for me to have the death penalty Many people would execute rapists, like Andy Malkinson for example... The first corpse I saw when in the Met was in Westminster mortuary, a guy who had been stabbed in the chest through his heart by his wife with a large very sharp kitchen knife. There was only going to be one outcome from the attack, no fight, no tussle, she stabbed him. It wasn't my case so I wasn't in court and I don't know what sentence she received but considering this was 1983 I'd hazard a guess she isn't inside anymore. Murder comes in all sorts of disguises.
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Post by felonious on Aug 18, 2023 17:40:15 GMT
Many people would execute rapists, like Andy Malkinson for example... The first corpse I saw when in the Met was in Westminster mortuary, a guy who had been stabbed in the chest through his heart by his wife with a large very sharp kitchen knife. There was only going to be one outcome from the attack, no fight, no tussle, she stabbed him. It wasn't my case so I wasn't in court and I don't know what sentence she received but considering this was 1983 I'd hazard a guess she isn't inside anymore. Murder comes in all sorts of disguises. It's a tough one Chuffed she could have finally snapped after 5 years of beatings or watching her kids go through it.....
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Post by callas12 on Aug 18, 2023 17:40:29 GMT
There's an interview with a nurse (colleague) who says on nightshifts when the baby monitoring alarms went off in one particular unit they had a saying "Is Lucy on Nights Tonight" as they went running towards the emergency shows there was a consistency to things happening when Letby was at work. Totally get this isn't conclusive evidence itself of any wrong doing No smoke without fire and all that! All leads towards the obvious with clearly other more provable evidence that was obtained and presented to the court.
The fact senior consultants tried to raise their concerns over Letby's behaviour and the fact the hospital wouldn't act upon it is quite shocking actually aswell as lives I'm sure could have been saved if the authorities had been alerted earlier. Perhaps even surveillance equipment could have been used to catch her in the act to put irrefutable evidence towards her in plain view..
I definitely think that the hospital management have serious questions to answer & no doubt whoever was in charge 7 or 8 or so years ago when her behaviour was going unchallenged will have likely long retired by now with a big fat pension & no memory of what had been going on!
They need quizzing hard about why the concerns raised by senior figures on the ground weren't actioned & went ignored.
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Post by felonious on Aug 18, 2023 17:42:23 GMT
I wonder what the sentence will be for the caring NHS staff who effectively aided and abetted her www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66120934Hospital bosses failed to investigate allegations against Lucy Letby and tried to silence doctors, the lead consultant at the neonatal unit where she worked has told the BBC. The hospital also delayed calling the police despite months of warnings that the nurse may have been killing babies. The unit's lead consultant Dr Stephen Brearey first raised concerns about Letby in October 2015. No action was taken and she went on to attack five more babies, killing two.
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Post by werrington on Aug 18, 2023 17:51:08 GMT
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Post by thevoid on Aug 18, 2023 18:02:08 GMT
Something just doesn't feel right about this at all and I can't put my finger on it. Maybe if it was one or two incidents, but not this many. They're now looking into her previous career.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2023 18:23:06 GMT
Something just doesn't feel right about this at all and I can't put my finger on it. It might be that she looks so benign. In fact she bears a resemblance to an inlaw of mine (who is also a nurse) and this inlaw is such a nice, kind person it's almost a flaw. It's just extremely difficult to square the appearance of Lucy Letby with the heinousness of the crimes.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 18, 2023 18:24:44 GMT
I wonder what the sentence will be for the caring NHS staff who effectively aided and abetted her www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66120934Hospital bosses failed to investigate allegations against Lucy Letby and tried to silence doctors, the lead consultant at the neonatal unit where she worked has told the BBC. The hospital also delayed calling the police despite months of warnings that the nurse may have been killing babies. The unit's lead consultant Dr Stephen Brearey first raised concerns about Letby in October 2015. No action was taken and she went on to attack five more babies, killing two. Just watching the report on C4 news. Clearly the parents need answers as to how the concerns raised weren’t acted on quicker. I just hope that the public remember this is very much an isolated case and that the vast majority of those working in the NHS do a fantastic job. I’m sure all those nurses who do an amazing job on a daily basis are sickened by this.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Aug 18, 2023 18:32:10 GMT
In situations like this, I strongly advocate for the application of the death penalty. Let her bear the consequences of her evil actions and be condemned to hell. too many miscarriages of justice for me to have the death penalty I agree - been against capital punishment since I saw the film 10 Rillington Place (about the Christie murders)
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Post by musik on Aug 18, 2023 18:32:59 GMT
Why did she do it? Had those children lot of health problems they would suffer from for the rest of their lives? I just try to understand why.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2023 18:40:44 GMT
Something just doesn't feel right about this at all and I can't put my finger on it. Maybe if it was one or two incidents, but not this many. They're now looking into her previous career. So they should. I have no issue with the conviction given the evidence that has come out. Something about the bigger picture just doesn't sit right.
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Post by salopstick on Aug 18, 2023 18:41:12 GMT
The murder rate went down on the abolition of capital punishment in the uk
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