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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Oct 4, 2021 19:58:35 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Oct 4, 2021 20:00:57 GMT
Head of nursing should resign. All nurses are potential child killers??
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Post by flea79 on Oct 5, 2021 8:08:34 GMT
we know so little about this case as reporting restrictions are in place
i really hope it isnt true but i dont see how its got so far otherwise
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Post by thevoid on Oct 5, 2021 9:27:28 GMT
There are usually mental health issues related to cases like this.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 5, 2021 9:40:31 GMT
There are usually mental health issues related to cases like this. You're right there are. But unfortunately that doesn't help the parents and families affected. There has to be better screening in place for people in positions that can carry out such despicable acts. Yearly mental health assessments or something. Such a sad case. But with the NHS in such a state I can't see anything changing in the short term.
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Oct 5, 2021 12:11:55 GMT
There are usually mental health issues related to cases like this. You're right there are. But unfortunately that doesn't help the parents and families affected. There has to be better screening in place for people in positions that can carry out such despicable acts. Yearly mental health assessments or something. Such a sad case. But with the NHS in such a state I can't see anything changing in the short term. I think part of the problem is once into a job that’s so stressful the only way to get support is through self referral which can often be a stigma. There needs to be assessments for all nurses, police, Fire annually. Some of the things they see can affect the mental health of someone who’s always been pretty stable.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 5, 2021 12:22:26 GMT
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Oct 10, 2022 17:44:02 GMT
Pure evil. Letby, 32, denied murdering seven premature babies and attempting to murder 10 more Letby is alleged to have injected babies with insulin, air or pumped with milk to kill them The nurse is alleged to have killed babies during night shifts when parents were less likely to visit She is said to have searched for the families of her alleged victims families on Facebook Prosecutor Nick Johnson KC described Letby as a 'constant malevolent presence' at the neonatal unit Deaths occurred at the Countess of Chester Hospital between June 2015 and June 2016 where it has been alleged that a 'poisoner was at work' Letby was arrested three years after the death of her first alleged victim on June 8, 2015 She allegedly targeted twins on more than one occasion - and in some cases one was murdered and their sibling survived In some cases, Letby is alleged to have tried to kill the same baby on more than one occasion Child A, who was allegedly murdered, died less than 90 minutes after Letby came on night shift Mr Johnson said that 'in all cases Lucy Letby was either responsible for them as their designated nurse or she got involved with them despite not being their designated nurse' Link.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2022 18:19:45 GMT
Surprised no one has used the mental health excuse to be fair. It does take a certain person to be a nurse of course but only a matter of time
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2022 12:45:06 GMT
Reading the accusations is distressing. There’s no way though that we should even know the name of the accused, let alone what she looks like. If she is somehow innocent then the stink is never going to wash off.
From what I’ve heard so far I’m already starting to feel visceral rage & hatred towards what could be an innocent person. It’s not right that she is famous even if she turns out to be innocent. She should only become infamous if she’s found guilty, and should have the option of lifelong anonymity if cleared.
I find it shocking seeing her picture. She looks so normal, kind even. That’s the scariest thing to me if she’s guilty.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Oct 11, 2022 15:57:10 GMT
She’s pleaded not guilty which is a bit strange. Be interesting when her defence steps up to the plate. Has she been set up to cover up inadequacies of the unit? Seems somewhat bizarre that these baby deaths occurred over a 12 month period and no supervising nurse or doctor spotted it.
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Post by metalhead on Oct 12, 2022 7:34:51 GMT
Reading the accusations is distressing. There’s no way though that we should even know the name of the accused, let alone what she looks like. If she is somehow innocent then the stink is never going to wash off. From what I’ve heard so far I’m already starting to feel visceral rage & hatred towards what could be an innocent person. It’s not right that she is famous even if she turns out to be innocent. She should only become infamous if she’s found guilty, and should have the option of lifelong anonymity if cleared. I find it shocking seeing her picture. She looks so normal, kind even. That’s the scariest thing to me if she’s guilty. Interesting take. Aren't these the exact same rules being applied to her, as are applied to males when an accusation of rape is made? The logic being "well, if one person has accused him, others might come forward". Forget about whether he's innocent or not, that's not so important. I suspect the same is true here. There must be a bundle of evidence and perhaps they are hoping that someone else will come forward to bolster the case. She's been in jail since 2018 without bail. I assume to make bail, there's a certain bar that you have to be under and in the case of Lucy Letby, she clearly didn't make it. That may point to the case against her being overwhelming. She's getting a huge amount of support on Twitter though. Mainly people suggesting the lengths in-which hospitals will go to cover up their failings. There's also some weird trend where people are putting a blue heart in their bio to support her. It's interesting that this 'innocent until proven guilty' lark only seems to apply when the individual involved is a white attractive female When it's a male.... you've got no chance. Send him down to the dungeons
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jul 6, 2023 12:34:58 GMT
Been following the judges summing up which is much easier to follow than the trial narrative. It’s taken all week so far and expect to hand the trial to the jury until Monday. As you would expect there’s loads of speculation and theories on social media (not sure if that’s actually legally allowed) that I have read. One theory that stands out, which has not been picked up by msm, is that she is not a serial killer per se but rather a sadist getting her kicks out of seeing parents and families destroyed by her alleged actions. It goes on to explain that her not guilty pleas also designed to place further anguish and trauma on the families and her actions of perusing the victims families Facebook profiles to see them suffering.
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Post by Northy on Jul 6, 2023 12:47:49 GMT
Been following the judges summing up which is much easier to follow than the trial narrative. It’s taken all week so far and expect to hand the trial to the jury until Monday. As you would expect there’s loads of speculation and theories on social media (not sure if that’s actually legally allowed) that I have read. One theory that stands out, which has not been picked up by msm, is that she is not a serial killer per se but rather a sadist getting her kicks out of seeing parents and families destroyed by her alleged actions. It goes on to explain that her not guilty pleas also designed to place further anguish and trauma on the families and her actions of perusing the victims families Facebook profiles to see them suffering. Or she was just very bad at her job? Seen quite a few extracts with watching NW TV, the amount of trust that 1 person had looking after those little lives is unreal, I'm not sure what processes will be changed after this, but it's got to be around this lone people working around vulnerable people.
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Post by thevoid on Jul 6, 2023 13:07:58 GMT
Been following the judges summing up which is much easier to follow than the trial narrative. It’s taken all week so far and expect to hand the trial to the jury until Monday. As you would expect there’s loads of speculation and theories on social media (not sure if that’s actually legally allowed) that I have read. One theory that stands out, which has not been picked up by msm, is that she is not a serial killer per se but rather a sadist getting her kicks out of seeing parents and families destroyed by her alleged actions. It goes on to explain that her not guilty pleas also designed to place further anguish and trauma on the families and her actions of perusing the victims families Facebook profiles to see them suffering. She's still a serial killer, one of the worst. Doesn't matter how it's 'dressed up'
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jul 6, 2023 15:21:59 GMT
Been following the judges summing up which is much easier to follow than the trial narrative. It’s taken all week so far and expect to hand the trial to the jury until Monday. As you would expect there’s loads of speculation and theories on social media (not sure if that’s actually legally allowed) that I have read. One theory that stands out, which has not been picked up by msm, is that she is not a serial killer per se but rather a sadist getting her kicks out of seeing parents and families destroyed by her alleged actions. It goes on to explain that her not guilty pleas also designed to place further anguish and trauma on the families and her actions of perusing the victims families Facebook profiles to see them suffering. She's still a serial killer, one of the worst. Doesn't matter how it's 'dressed up' Indeed. I was just pointing to the speculation as to why she has allegedly committed these murders/attempted murders.
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Post by Northy on Jul 6, 2023 15:54:54 GMT
Been following the judges summing up which is much easier to follow than the trial narrative. It’s taken all week so far and expect to hand the trial to the jury until Monday. As you would expect there’s loads of speculation and theories on social media (not sure if that’s actually legally allowed) that I have read. One theory that stands out, which has not been picked up by msm, is that she is not a serial killer per se but rather a sadist getting her kicks out of seeing parents and families destroyed by her alleged actions. It goes on to explain that her not guilty pleas also designed to place further anguish and trauma on the families and her actions of perusing the victims families Facebook profiles to see them suffering. She's still a serial killer, one of the worst. Doesn't matter how it's 'dressed up' The Jury haven't returned their verdict yet have they ?
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Post by felonious on Jul 6, 2023 18:01:21 GMT
She's still a serial killer, one of the worst. Doesn't matter how it's 'dressed up' The Jury haven't returned their verdict yet have they ? This is the Oatcake who needs a jury
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 6, 2023 18:09:28 GMT
The Jury haven't returned their verdict yet have they ? This is the Oatcake who needs a jury We need Werrington to announce that the Kangeroo Court is in session
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2023 18:42:46 GMT
I would.
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Post by salopstick on Aug 18, 2023 12:18:23 GMT
guilty
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 18, 2023 12:29:38 GMT
I just hope this is the right verdict. After the Malkinson case, the thought of someone being wrongly convicted is chilling, as is the thought of someone committing such an act.
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Post by callas12 on Aug 18, 2023 12:33:14 GMT
Know the reasons why but find it interesting that within minutes of the jury's decision SKY News have pre-prepared reports ready to roll, with Interviews with victims families, ex colleagues & even police officers, all discussing Letbys guilt! It's as though it was a given the weight of evidence was so strong against her that it was inevitable she would be found guilty!
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Post by werrington on Aug 18, 2023 12:36:35 GMT
I just hope this is the right verdict. After the Malkinson case, the thought of someone being wrongly convicted is chilling, as is the thought of someone committing such an act. Her personal home diaries ultimately nailed her guilt
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 18, 2023 12:37:07 GMT
Know the reasons why but find it interesting that within minutes of the jury's decision SKY News have pre-prepared reports ready to roll, with Interviews with victims families, ex colleagues & even police officers, all discussing Letbys guilt! It's as though it was a given the weight of evidence was so strong against her that it was inevitable she would be found guilty! I'll never understand all this. Media circus around such tragedy. Just let it be, what purpose does it serve? Morbid fascination. Can't see how it is healthy for anyone.
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Post by callas12 on Aug 18, 2023 12:52:21 GMT
I just hope this is the right verdict. After the Malkinson case, the thought of someone being wrongly convicted is chilling, as is the thought of someone committing such an act. Dont believe the two cases can be connected. The amount & quality of evidence from that case to this one are totally different. The amount of varied evidence against Letby over many crimes and victims is quite compelling. One murder or attempt she may have got away with but with all the cases, that she was linked to, it really would have been quite damning! As Werrington has said, the diary's written by her were so compelling, as was hiding work paperwork connected to the babies involved at her home address. The more crimes someone commits, the more evidence they leave and have connected to them. Malkinson was one case and years ago where measures clearly weren't quite so tight regarding evidence or indeed the weight of it.
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Post by callas12 on Aug 18, 2023 12:56:56 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Aug 18, 2023 13:07:58 GMT
so ive never seen this before but the verdicts (and non decided ones) have been coming in dribs and drabs the last few weeks with letby in the dock.
She wasnt in the dock today
sentenced Monday Prison wont be great for her
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Post by aureliuspotter on Aug 18, 2023 13:25:27 GMT
In situations like this, I strongly advocate for the application of the death penalty. Let her bear the consequences of her evil actions and be condemned to hell.
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Post by Northy on Aug 18, 2023 13:34:39 GMT
In situations like this, I strongly advocate for the application of the death penalty. Let her bear the consequences of her evil actions and be condemned to hell. Is that you Crapslinger ?
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