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Post by superjw on Sept 21, 2022 20:24:35 GMT
I've reached the conclusion that it's a manufactured ploy to force households to use less energy and to consequently reduce the carbon output of each property. Looking at indices of deprivation, fuel poverty and energy performance the stated motive driving these is improving energy performance. If this can't be done quick enough then hiking bills is a crude way of changing mindsets to do this. If the property becomes too energy efficient it reduces profit, hence to normalisation of massive energy costs. The whole insulation rush is about reducing carbon output rather than making the property any cheaper to run or reducing fuel poverty or deprivation. In fact we're openly told not to state that any of this type of work will reduce fuel poverty as the price increases negate this impact of any energy efficiency work. That might be too simple a view and a little conspiracy theorist but it's an easy conclusion to reach when you browse the academic data of the past 10 years and look at the SHDF priorities at the moment. Yep, reduce usage but maintain profits for energy companies.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Sept 23, 2022 15:06:29 GMT
Turns out as an average family of four, we're 730 quid a year more average than your average family.
£3230 electric bill for the next 12 months. Fuck British Gas and Fuck the Tories.
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Post by andystokey on Sept 24, 2022 18:12:38 GMT
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Post by chuffedstokie on Sept 24, 2022 18:17:22 GMT
Had an email from British gas about the price hike and this question may well have been asked before but why is the standing charge going up again?. I've probably missed something somewhere.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 24, 2022 23:30:34 GMT
Scottish power have said our electric is going up again despite them getting all of their electric from renewable sources.
I’m not sure how rising gas and oil prices affects that you robbing mother fuckers.
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Post by mtrstudent on Sept 27, 2022 0:50:54 GMT
Just moved flats in California. Gone from city power company to commercial "Southern California Edison".
Was paying 17 cents/kWh (including 2.5 for 100% renewable) but now the base rate is 33 c. Summertime peak hours are 5-8 pm when it's 66 c. Yikes.
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Post by dave1 on Sept 27, 2022 6:45:11 GMT
I've only recently started to use my smart meter (you know the device that shows how much you're using, how much you've used etc). It's frightening how quickly it ramps up, especially now that the heating is coming on!!! Not helped by me having an electric vehicle....
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Post by dexter97 on Sept 27, 2022 7:20:01 GMT
Had an email from British gas about the price hike and this question may well have been asked before but why is the standing charge going up again?. I've probably missed something somewhere. I've had several rants about this. Non-commodity charges represent the costs of delivery, which haven't increased by much more than inflation. I can only assume it's been done to keep the 'headline' price per kWh down. There's no justification for it, and it penalises those who try to economise. It especially hits poorer households, who are still going to get stung even if they leave the heating off all winter. I'm disappointed this hasn't featured more in the national discussion about the energy crisis.
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Post by chuffedstokie on Sept 27, 2022 7:54:52 GMT
I've only recently started to use my smart meter (you know the device that shows how much you're using, how much you've used etc). It's frightening how quickly it ramps up, especially now that the heating is coming on!!! Not helped by me having an electric vehicle.... As sad as this sounds I checked the smart meter and it just cost me 29p for a shower. 🙂
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 27, 2022 8:02:17 GMT
Scottish power have said our electric is going up again despite them getting all of their electric from renewable sources. I’m not sure how rising gas and oil prices affects that you robbing mother fuckers. Isn’t that because the government won’t change the regulations so that electricity is separate from gas prices. Currently they are linked, so high gas prices mean high electricity prices, regardless as to where it comes from. Many energy providers said they would back de-linking the two, so gas would remain high and electricity would drop. But the government don’t want that because that would mean the oil and gas producers losing out, and like bankers and the highest earners, they really need help at the moment…
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 27, 2022 8:03:43 GMT
Scottish power have said our electric is going up again despite them getting all of their electric from renewable sources. I’m not sure how rising gas and oil prices affects that you robbing mother fuckers. Isn’t that because the government won’t change the regulations so that electricity is separate from gas prices. Currently they are linked, so high gas prices mean high electricity prices, regardless as to where it comes from. Many energy providers said they would back de-linking the two, so gas would remain high and electricity would drop. But the government don’t want that because that would mean the oil and gas producers losing out, and like bankers and the highest earners, they really need help at the moment… Not sure tbh. That sounds like a right racket! Wankers
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 27, 2022 8:09:55 GMT
Isn’t that because the government won’t change the regulations so that electricity is separate from gas prices. Currently they are linked, so high gas prices mean high electricity prices, regardless as to where it comes from. Many energy providers said they would back de-linking the two, so gas would remain high and electricity would drop. But the government don’t want that because that would mean the oil and gas producers losing out, and like bankers and the highest earners, they really need help at the moment… Not sure tbh. That sounds like a right racket! Wankers Here is an explanation: www.goodenergy.co.uk/why-does-the-price-of-gas-drive-electricity-prices-including-renewables/With labour’s plan of getting 100% of electricity from renewables, the price would drop significantly. If I were in charge, I’d separate the price of renewable electricity from fossil fuel electricity, which would be taxed more and invariably cost more as it is more expensive. That, coupled with massive green investment in renewables and at least we would solve the electricity side of the energy crisis. Then it is about phasing out gas boilers and installing heat pumps for every home and insulating, and then the energy crisis is solved. No new home built should be without proper insulation and a heat pump and there should be no gas boilers anymore. It would cost a lot, but it would create thousands of jobs, wean us off fossil fuels, reduce energy costs massively in the long run, meet the net zero targets and help the planet.
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Post by superjw on Sept 27, 2022 20:00:38 GMT
Nordstream pipe ruptured and leaking gas off the coast of Sweden. Not suspicious at all…
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 27, 2022 20:06:35 GMT
Right - chopping up the furniture ………. Fuck off Shell
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Post by hotterpotter on Sept 27, 2022 21:04:33 GMT
Right - chopping up the furniture ………. Fuck off Shell Sounds like a scene in EastEnders from the 90s! Arfur Faaaahler en arf got the ump...
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 11, 2022 18:56:55 GMT
Can someone explain to me how the £400 rebate is paid?Does it come directly off your bill? My daughter has just informed me she’s had £66 paid into her bank as the 1st instalment of the 6 months rebate🤔I’m confused
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Post by superjw on Oct 11, 2022 19:28:13 GMT
Can someone explain to me how the £400 rebate is paid?Does it come directly off your bill? My daughter has just informed me she’s had £66 paid into her bank as the 1st instalment of the 6 months rebate🤔I’m confused Depends on your supplier, I'm with British gas and they will send the money direct to bank. The deal is you must pay your direct debit and they send the money a few days later. Haven't had mine yet as I don't pay until back end of October
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Post by John Smiths Upper Fan on Oct 11, 2022 19:28:28 GMT
Can someone explain to me how the £400 rebate is paid?Does it come directly off your bill? My daughter has just informed me she’s had £66 paid into her bank as the 1st instalment of the 6 months rebate🤔I’m confused I had an outgoing payment of £66 show on my British Gas account then couple days later received it into my bank account.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 11, 2022 19:29:49 GMT
Can someone explain to me how the £400 rebate is paid?Does it come directly off your bill? My daughter has just informed me she’s had £66 paid into her bank as the 1st instalment of the 6 months rebate🤔I’m confused Depends on your supplier, I'm with British gas and they will send the money direct to bank. The deal is you must pay your direct debit and they send the money a few days later. Haven't had mine yet as I don't pay until back end of October Ok mate thanks
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Post by thebet365 on Oct 11, 2022 19:54:17 GMT
Can someone explain to me how the £400 rebate is paid?Does it come directly off your bill? My daughter has just informed me she’s had £66 paid into her bank as the 1st instalment of the 6 months rebate🤔I’m confused Depends on your supplier, I'm with British gas and they will send the money direct to bank. The deal is you must pay your direct debit and they send the money a few days later. Haven't had mine yet as I don't pay until back end of October I'm with British gas for both, whilst they said it was gonna be sent to my bank (as I pay DD) they've actually just credited my energy account. Stupid thing is I can't find anywhere on my account telling me they've done it but I've been keeping an eye on it and after giving them my readings at the end of September I was 30 odd in credit. Now I'm 100 in credit.
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Post by superjw on Oct 12, 2022 9:11:05 GMT
Depends on your supplier, I'm with British gas and they will send the money direct to bank. The deal is you must pay your direct debit and they send the money a few days later. Haven't had mine yet as I don't pay until back end of October I'm with British gas for both, whilst they said it was gonna be sent to my bank (as I pay DD) they've actually just credited my energy account. Stupid thing is I can't find anywhere on my account telling me they've done it but I've been keeping an eye on it and after giving them my readings at the end of September I was 30 odd in credit. Now I'm 100 in credit. I've had another look at their site as it looks to have been updated - it does say that a credit would appear as "miscellaneous" and then this would change to an outgoing payment to you. Perhaps you will still get it? Think the only time it stays as a credit is of your direct debit is less than the £66 coming back
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Post by thebet365 on Oct 12, 2022 10:10:49 GMT
I'm with British gas for both, whilst they said it was gonna be sent to my bank (as I pay DD) they've actually just credited my energy account. Stupid thing is I can't find anywhere on my account telling me they've done it but I've been keeping an eye on it and after giving them my readings at the end of September I was 30 odd in credit. Now I'm 100 in credit. I've had another look at their site as it looks to have been updated - it does say that a credit would appear as "miscellaneous" and then this would change to an outgoing payment to you. Perhaps you will still get it? Think the only time it stays as a credit is of your direct debit is less than the £66 coming back I'll keep my eye on it and update if anything changes, I was just gonna pay it straight back onto my account anyway so saves me the hassle but it just seems odd that they're saying 1 thing and at the minute seem to have done another.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 12, 2022 11:37:44 GMT
Does anybody know how to claim the £100 if you're on lpg/oil?
Cant find anything anywhere.
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Post by Northy on Oct 12, 2022 15:16:02 GMT
I've only recently started to use my smart meter (you know the device that shows how much you're using, how much you've used etc). It's frightening how quickly it ramps up, especially now that the heating is coming on!!! Not helped by me having an electric vehicle.... As sad as this sounds I checked the smart meter and it just cost me 29p for a shower. 🙂 Just have a shower next time ...
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 12, 2022 16:54:34 GMT
Can someone explain to me how the £400 rebate is paid?Does it come directly off your bill? My daughter has just informed me she’s had £66 paid into her bank as the 1st instalment of the 6 months rebate🤔I’m confused I’m with Eon Next, been credited with £66 which has been automatically deducted from my latest bill. Was a lovely surprise to get a monthly energy bill for £34 I must say😀
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 12, 2022 17:08:15 GMT
Can someone explain to me how the £400 rebate is paid?Does it come directly off your bill? My daughter has just informed me she’s had £66 paid into her bank as the 1st instalment of the 6 months rebate🤔I’m confused I’m with Eon Next, been credited with £66 which has been automatically deducted from my latest bill. Was a lovely surprise to get a monthly energy bill for £34 I must say😀 Yes it looks like EON Next are doing it differently to a lot of other www.thesun.co.uk/money/19677578/list-energy-firms-bills-rebate-british-gas-edf-eon/amp/ companies judging by this
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 12, 2022 17:11:46 GMT
Same with Bulb (who we're with), they've just lopped it straight off the bill.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 12, 2022 17:18:04 GMT
Same with Bulb (who we're with), they've just lopped it straight off the bill. Is that off a bill that is quarterly Paul?In other words pay when it comes as opposed to monthly payments?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 12, 2022 17:32:58 GMT
Same with Bulb (who we're with), they've just lopped it straight off the bill. Is that off a bill that is quarterly Paul?In other words pay when it comes as opposed to monthly payments? No mate, they credited the entire £400 against my account and then adjusted my monthly direct debit accordingly.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 12, 2022 17:35:18 GMT
Is that off a bill that is quarterly Paul?In other words pay when it comes as opposed to monthly payments? No mate, they credited the entire £400 against my account and then adjusted my monthly direct debit accordingly. Cheers mate and I assume that’s what EON Next have done for ours with our Direct Debit reducing by £39 per month from this Friday. I’ll click on the App and have a closer look👍
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