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Post by pmjh on Aug 9, 2021 19:48:44 GMT
Chester is already injured and may not play much part. In fact I'd be surprised if he wasn't only here because of the option in his contract. Fox is a full back. That leaves us with 4 players for 3 places including a 20 yr old loanee who may or may not be first choice. I think Chester' s fit - but just needs minutes. MON hinted he'd be playing tomorrow. I don't think he'll be happy playing one game every couple of months? Souttar, Wilmot and this new guy (if he's got a choice of half a dozen clubs) will obviously expect to play when fit. Fox is a full-back - but sounds like this signing means we won't be playing a back 4 any time soon now - and I really don't think he's a wing-back (and I think he's shown that when played there) It could be workable - but it could get awkward (but that's for MON to deal with) My point was that Chester will miss games as will some of the others. When I said fox was a full back I meant that he's NOT a centre half. Furthermore there's no guarantee that a young loanee will fit straight into the team. For those reasons I don't think we will be overloaded in central defence. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 9, 2021 20:07:42 GMT
Impressed by Wilmot's defending for their first then I reckon! Sometimes I really wonder how you watch a game of football to be honest!  Ditto if you can't see that Reading funnelled the ball to Batth deliberately and we'd go long from that. MON wants the ball playing from the back, you cannot do that with Batth in the side period. Same for Allen tbh. |
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Post by houstonsteve on Aug 9, 2021 21:51:11 GMT
Surname translates to cheese in farm (most likely derived from A Cheese Farm).
Has to have his shirt sponsored by the oatcake surely? or Poveys?
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Post by a on Aug 9, 2021 22:14:57 GMT
I noticed that Norrington Davies wasn't in the Sheff Utd squad yesterday. We could get Tom back from New York for the other flank? (careful Maine!) RND? Yes please. Edwards, No thanks. |
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Post by pottermouth on Aug 9, 2021 22:26:53 GMT
How many loan signings can we have from PL clubs? Would much prefer him on a permanent transfer. It’s only loan signings now as the manager has said there is no money left for permanent signings in this window. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 10, 2021 6:45:51 GMT
Do we think this means the 3-5-2 is here for the forseeable, rather than being a means to an end? Depends how you look at it I see it as 5 at the back I think it's here to stay for a while regardless of how we see it, isn't it? 3-5-2 isn't invariably a negative set up. If your wing backs don't cross the halfway line it is, absolutely, but the signings we've made in central defence suggest we'll have at least one CB stepping forward with the ball. Doughty is an attack-minded signing and Smith, who I don't rate especially, has at least provided some telling crosses in the first game. That gives me hope that we'll at least be a bit more enterprising than last season. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 10, 2021 7:40:13 GMT
Depends how you look at it I see it as 5 at the back I think it's here to stay for a while regardless of how we see it, isn't it? 3-5-2 isn't invariably a negative set up. If your wing backs don't cross the halfway line it is, absolutely, but the signings we've made in central defence suggest we'll have at least one CB stepping forward with the ball. Doughty is an attack-minded signing and Smith, who I don't rate especially, has at least provided some telling crosses in the first game. That gives me hope that we'll at least be a bit more enterprising than last season. It also means you can play 2 up top without having to sacrifice a midfielder as you would in a 442. A lot of our problems have been caused my the lone striker being isolated. If you've got the right players it's a good formation. |
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Post by gingerninja on Aug 10, 2021 7:46:57 GMT
If we do get Ostigard and Delap and a quality CDM, we should not have any excuses as to why we aren't seriously challenging for a top 6 place. The board have backed him as proactively as they could under FFP and the club has been streamlined beyond expectations. MON will be under pressure to deliver.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 10, 2021 7:51:46 GMT
If we do get Ostigard and Delap and a quality CDM, we should not have any excuses as to why we aren't seriously challenging for a top 6 place. The board have backed him as proactively as they could under FFP and the club has been streamlined beyond expectations. MON will be under pressure to deliver. Right back would be good as well. Probably more of a priority than Delap at this point. |
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Post by neddy on Aug 10, 2021 7:56:59 GMT
Nothing much normally happens on a match day does it. Expect this guy may be announced if done on Wednesday.
Most important now DM and Delap. We do need 4 strikers for a whole season.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 10, 2021 7:59:50 GMT
Nothing much normally happens on a match day does it. Expect this guy may be announced if done on Wednesday. Most important now DM and Delap. We do need 4 strikers for a whole season. Who plays RWB if Smith gets injured or struggles with form? |
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Post by lordb on Aug 10, 2021 8:04:15 GMT
Nothing much normally happens on a match day does it. Expect this guy may be announced if done on Wednesday. Most important now DM and Delap. We do need 4 strikers for a whole season. Who plays RWB if Smith gets injured or struggles with form? Presumably Ostigard? Or Wilmot in a back four Assuming Fox is fit, if he is out as well it's a big problem Unless Jones and/or Coates are being thought of as cover. That seems unlikely Sign a RWB cover/competition and that problem goes away, manager can then play wing backs whenever he wants probably. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 10, 2021 8:10:06 GMT
Who plays RWB if Smith gets injured or struggles with form? Presumably Ostigard? Or Wilmot in a back four Assuming Fox is fit, if he is out as well it's a big problem Unless Jones and/or Coates are being thought of as cover. That seems unlikely Sign a RWB cover/competition and that problem goes away, manager can then play wing backs whenever he wants probably. Have either ever played there before? Could see him maybe sticking Doughty there and playing Tymon LWB, which again wouldn't be ideal. That's why I think RWB is more of a priority than getting Delap here, as exciting as that would be. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 10, 2021 8:13:44 GMT
According to transfermarkt, Ostigard has never played anywhere else but centre-back. And he even said in that Athletic interview, he didn't massively like playing as one of the wide players in the back 3 "as it was almost like playing right-back"
And Wilmot has played once there.
It seems pretty obvious that MON sees RB/RWB as a must-have over the next 3 weeks
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Post by neddy on Aug 10, 2021 8:14:26 GMT
Who plays RWB if Smith gets injured or struggles with form? Presumably Ostigard? Or Wilmot in a back four Assuming Fox is fit, if he is out as well it's a big problem Unless Jones and/or Coates are being thought of as cover. That seems unlikely Sign a RWB cover/competition and that problem goes away, manager can then play wing backs whenever he wants probably. This I thought Ostigard if he is versatile enough to do both? Don’t know for sure though. RWB would be nice as well if they can fit in with ffp? |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 10, 2021 8:22:27 GMT
According to transfermarkt, Ostigard has never played anywhere else but centre-back. And he even said in that Athletic interview, he didn't massively like playing as one of the wide players in the back 3 "as it was almost like playing right-back" And Wilmot has played once there. It seems pretty obvious that MON sees RB/RWB as a must-have over the next 3 weeks Absolutely and I wouldn't be surprised if Neco Williams rocked up here before the window shuts. |
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Post by march4 on Aug 10, 2021 8:26:57 GMT
Nothing much normally happens on a match day does it. Expect this guy may be announced if done on Wednesday. Most important now DM and Delap. We do need 4 strikers for a whole season. Who plays RWB if Smith gets injured or struggles with form? Brown |
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 10, 2021 8:30:40 GMT
I wonder if Ostigard has been targeted to do a similar role that Collins did last year? Right sided central defender who will move across occasionally and play at right back?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 10, 2021 8:31:54 GMT
Who plays RWB if Smith gets injured or struggles with form? Brown In other words, we need a RWB in, pronto... |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 10, 2021 8:32:54 GMT
I wonder if Ostigard has been targeted to do a similar role that Collins did last year? Right sided central defender who will move across occasionally and play at right back? Doesn't sound like it - if we have that's some pretty dodgy targeting given he's pretty starkly not up for that! |
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Post by paulstoke1 on Aug 10, 2021 8:48:44 GMT
If Leo joins on loan for a year ive not seen any sign of a new contract at Brighton yet so he'll surely be a free agent ? After the loan so could this be permanent!
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Post by stokecitytalke on Aug 10, 2021 8:50:36 GMT
If Leo joins on loan for a year ive not seen any sign of a new contract at Brighton yet so he'll surely be a free agent ? After the loan so could this be permanent! Think I read that he was going to sign a new contract before going out on loan. |
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Post by paulstoke1 on Aug 10, 2021 8:53:09 GMT
Yeh I read that but he's apparently about to join and nothing on a new contract and he's not in there plans and to leave a player like him to get to his last year seems to me he may come permanently but we'll see
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Post by pmjh on Aug 10, 2021 8:55:09 GMT
MON said he wanted another 4 players. If we sign Ostigard that leaves another 3. I would guess that this would be 3 from:
RB/RWB
DM
Striker
Possibly a RW, if he wants the option to play wingers. The RWB/RW could possibly be the same player, similar to Doughty on the left.
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Post by theteacher on Aug 10, 2021 8:58:55 GMT
If Leo joins on loan for a year ive not seen any sign of a new contract at Brighton yet so he'll surely be a free agent ? After the loan so could this be permanent! Could this be some “agreement” involving Souttar? |
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 10, 2021 9:00:09 GMT
I wonder if Ostigard has been targeted to do a similar role that Collins did last year? Right sided central defender who will move across occasionally and play at right back? Doesn't sound like it - if we have that's some pretty dodgy targeting given he's pretty starkly not up for that! Assuming he signs, then I’m unsure how it’s going to work then. You’d think the best three on paper are Wilmot, Ostigard, and H but who’s playing to the left out of those three and where does it leave Fox, Batth and Chester? Is it possible that Souttar might be leaving? |
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Post by lordb on Aug 10, 2021 9:02:07 GMT
According to transfermarkt, Ostigard has never played anywhere else but centre-back. And he even said in that Athletic interview, he didn't massively like playing as one of the wide players in the back 3 "as it was almost like playing right-back" And Wilmot has played once there. It seems pretty obvious that MON sees RB/RWB as a must-have over the next 3 weeks Absolutely and I wouldn't be surprised if Neco Williams rocked up here before the window shuts. For £10m? Give over Or have Liverpool changed their mind about loaning him? Someone has to be coming in at RWB |
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 10, 2021 9:02:56 GMT
Yeh I read that but he's apparently about to join and nothing on a new contract and he's not in there plans and to leave a player like him to get to his last year seems to me he may come permanently but we'll see I really hope this will lead to a permanent deal!  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2021 9:05:01 GMT
Wonder if we will go for O'Donnell for RB?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 10, 2021 9:05:37 GMT
Doesn't sound like it - if we have that's some pretty dodgy targeting given he's pretty starkly not up for that! Assuming he signs, then I’m unsure how it’s going to work then. You’d think the best three on paper are Wilmot, Ostigard, and H but who’s playing to the left out of those three and where does it leave Fox, Batth and Chester? Is it possible that Souttar might be leaving? I think it is possible. Can't rule out anyone leaving at this point. Also think Wilmot could play on the left of the three. It leaves Batth and Chester as cover, which is what they should be. Fox as an option if we decide to switch to a back four I guess? |
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