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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jun 15, 2022 9:43:04 GMT
How long did Bury get before they were kicked out of the league?
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Post by flea79 on Jun 15, 2022 9:48:48 GMT
How long did Bury get before they were kicked out of the league? a fraction of the time that Derby have had but as the Derby fans keep spouting on twitter they have been paying bills whereas Bury didnt, what they dont realise is they have paid bills with loans from the investors behind Mel Morris that will never get paid back, they have cheated and continue too cheat liquidate them now
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Post by wrexhamstokie90 on Jun 15, 2022 10:34:17 GMT
Who is paying the players right now??? Rooney lol
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Post by drfishy on Jun 15, 2022 10:48:09 GMT
Wouldn't be too taxing for him- haven't they only got 5 contracted players?
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Post by Gob Bluth on Jun 15, 2022 12:21:44 GMT
Who is paying the players right now??? Rooney lol In a story full of villains he’s the only person coming out of it with any credit. Paul Hart became a figure good at leading beleaguered clubs but by all accounts Rooney is the one keeping them on life support. There have been a few posts questioning the difference between Derby and Bury and I wonder how much of it is because Rooney is helping them out, a lot.
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Post by followyoudown on Jun 15, 2022 12:55:42 GMT
How long did Bury get before they were kicked out of the league? a fraction of the time that Derby have had but as the Derby fans keep spouting on twitter they have been paying bills whereas Bury didnt, what they dont realise is they have paid bills with loans from the investors behind Mel Morris that will never get paid back, they have cheated and continue too cheat liquidate them now Thats not completely correct MSD have loaned Derby money at eye watering rates they have priority over other creditors so get paid back first, they also loaned money to Morris that he is personally liable for.
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Post by flea79 on Jun 15, 2022 13:44:13 GMT
a fraction of the time that Derby have had but as the Derby fans keep spouting on twitter they have been paying bills whereas Bury didnt, what they dont realise is they have paid bills with loans from the investors behind Mel Morris that will never get paid back, they have cheated and continue too cheat liquidate them now Thats not completely correct MSD have loaned Derby money at eye watering rates they have priority over other creditors so get paid back first, they also loaned money to Morris that he is personally liable for. i think any of the personally liable stuff is against the stadium which is owner separately from the club, hence any money that MSD are pouring into the club itself is in the hope a deal is arranged and they lose a fiver rather than a tenner HMRC is first on the list to be paid and at best will get 25p in the pound meaning the club has stolen an awful lot of money from the public purse, not too mention the player they promised to pay Arsenal 10 million for and havent actually paid and Arsenal have been kind enough to delay payment, he was responsible for points for them last season when really he should have been illegible to play, if i dont pay my car loan the bank takes my car away and i cant use it...
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Post by s7oke on Jun 15, 2022 14:00:02 GMT
Who is paying the players right now??? Rooney lol It’s not the players who have to worry so much as the day to day staff that aren’t getting paid Cleaners Groundsmen Coaches Community workers etc etc etc It’s the real people who’s livelihoods depend on it
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Post by s7oke on Jun 15, 2022 14:03:56 GMT
Thats not completely correct MSD have loaned Derby money at eye watering rates they have priority over other creditors so get paid back first, they also loaned money to Morris that he is personally liable for. i think any of the personally liable stuff is against the stadium which is owner separately from the club, hence any money that MSD are pouring into the club itself is in the hope a deal is arranged and they lose a fiver rather than a tenner HMRC is first on the list to be paid and at best will get 25p in the pound meaning the club has stolen an awful lot of money from the public purse, not too mention the player they promised to pay Arsenal 10 million for and havent actually paid and Arsenal have been kind enough to delay payment, he was responsible for points for them last season when really he should have been illegible to play, if i dont pay my car loan the bank takes my car away and i cant use it... Couldn’t agree more And apparently Ashley offered 15p in the pound which would lead to a 15 point deduction next season Quantama also have eye watering costs If you believe some it’s 7 million Others say over two million Scandalous they should be wound up
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 15, 2022 14:56:54 GMT
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Post by flea79 on Jun 15, 2022 15:07:10 GMT
i think any of the personally liable stuff is against the stadium which is owner separately from the club, hence any money that MSD are pouring into the club itself is in the hope a deal is arranged and they lose a fiver rather than a tenner HMRC is first on the list to be paid and at best will get 25p in the pound meaning the club has stolen an awful lot of money from the public purse, not too mention the player they promised to pay Arsenal 10 million for and havent actually paid and Arsenal have been kind enough to delay payment, he was responsible for points for them last season when really he should have been illegible to play, if i dont pay my car loan the bank takes my car away and i cant use it... Couldn’t agree more And apparently Ashley offered 15p in the pound which would lead to a 15 point deduction next season Quantama also have eye watering costs If you believe some it’s 7 million Others say over two million Scandalous they should be wound up i just fail to see why the efl is letting them carry on and accrue further debts, the leagues integrity was kept intact last season as they didnt go to the wall, the upcoming season is looking dicey with two sets of fixtures being drawn up again etc etc as it stands and i could be wrong but masfield will get a jump up into league one to replace derby and then national league to league two and so on and so forth...... it just doesnt seem fair when other clubs have been liquidated due to not having wealthy investors prepared to double down on losses in the hope of not losing everything these rules were put into place to stop clubs taking the piss financially and instead the efl are allowing Derby/Quantama to really bend the rules as far as possible, it stinks and shouldnt be allowed
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Post by deeside2 on Jun 15, 2022 16:05:19 GMT
Couldn’t agree more And apparently Ashley offered 15p in the pound which would lead to a 15 point deduction next season Quantama also have eye watering costs If you believe some it’s 7 million Others say over two million Scandalous they should be wound up i just fail to see why the efl is letting them carry on and accrue further debts, the leagues integrity was kept intact last season as they didnt go to the wall, the upcoming season is looking dicey with two sets of fixtures being drawn up again etc etc as it stands and i could be wrong but masfield will get a jump up into league one to replace derby and then national league to league two and so on and so forth...... it just doesnt seem fair when other clubs have been liquidated due to not having wealthy investors prepared to double down on losses in the hope of not losing everything these rules were put into place to stop clubs taking the piss financially and instead the efl are allowing Derby/Quantama to really bend the rules as far as possible, it stinks and shouldnt be allowed Totally agree. They've been given more than long enough to sort this out, deadline after deadline has been missed, and yet the EFL are still allowing them even more time. It stinks. The rules are in place, and if they're not complied with then action should be taken. Looks like it's one rule for some clubs, and another rule for others.
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Post by wagsastokie on Jun 15, 2022 16:29:58 GMT
Who is paying the players right now??? Rooney lol In a story full of villains he’s the only person coming out of it with any credit. Paul Hart became a figure good at leading beleaguered clubs but by all accounts Rooney is the one keeping them on life support. There have been a few posts questioning the difference between Derby and Bury and I wonder how much of it is because Rooney is helping them out, a lot. Which is why I can’t stand that sanctimonious twat Neville who could of saved bury with change from inside his sofa
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Post by s7oke on Jun 15, 2022 16:32:14 GMT
Couldn’t agree more And apparently Ashley offered 15p in the pound which would lead to a 15 point deduction next season Quantama also have eye watering costs If you believe some it’s 7 million Others say over two million Scandalous they should be wound up i just fail to see why the efl is letting them carry on and accrue further debts, the leagues integrity was kept intact last season as they didnt go to the wall, the upcoming season is looking dicey with two sets of fixtures being drawn up again etc etc as it stands and i could be wrong but masfield will get a jump up into league one to replace derby and then national league to league two and so on and so forth...... it just doesnt seem fair when other clubs have been liquidated due to not having wealthy investors prepared to double down on losses in the hope of not losing everything these rules were put into place to stop clubs taking the piss financially and instead the efl are allowing Derby/Quantama to really bend the rules as far as possible, it stinks and shouldnt be allowed It really does take the piss And it pisses a lot of people off EFL making a rod for their own back when it happens again Bury and Macc should be questioning this at the highest level
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Post by thevoid on Jun 15, 2022 16:57:51 GMT
In a story full of villains he’s the only person coming out of it with any credit. Paul Hart became a figure good at leading beleaguered clubs but by all accounts Rooney is the one keeping them on life support. There have been a few posts questioning the difference between Derby and Bury and I wonder how much of it is because Rooney is helping them out, a lot. Which is why I can’t stand that sanctimonious twat Neville who could of saved bury with change from inside his sofa Fair play to Savage, at least he's put his time and energy into Macc despite having no obvious connections to the area
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Post by lordb on Jun 15, 2022 17:00:32 GMT
Which is why I can’t stand that sanctimonious twat Neville who could of saved bury with change from inside his sofa Fair play to Savage, at least he's put his time and energy into Macc despite having no obvious connections to the area He lives there I think? So do lots of rich ex footballers of course Sometimes Savage says something really daft but he's one of the good guys
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Post by callas12 on Jun 15, 2022 17:11:32 GMT
Who is paying the players right now??? Rooney lol In a story full of villains he’s the only person coming out of it with any credit. Paul Hart became a figure good at leading beleaguered clubs but by all accounts Rooney is the one keeping them on life support. There have been a few posts questioning the difference between Derby and Bury and I wonder how much of it is because Rooney is helping them out, a lot. I'm sure that Rooney was quite heavily entrenched with Derby in his early days there due to their sponsors '32 Red' and that's why he got given the '32' shirt on signing on for them as part of the PR surrounding the move, sure it was something to do with debts he owed them or extra cash income that was being generated at the time, another Mel Morris dodgy going on! Does seem strange that he's clinging on in there despite all that's going on around him. Yes on one hand he might be showing he's not a quitter & actually quite enjoys the challenge he's been handed at Derby. But on the other, perhaps he's out stayed his welcome there but other factors are preventing him moving on to pastures new and he's simply putting a brave face on it 🤔
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Post by followyoudown on Jun 15, 2022 17:25:43 GMT
Thats not completely correct MSD have loaned Derby money at eye watering rates they have priority over other creditors so get paid back first, they also loaned money to Morris that he is personally liable for. i think any of the personally liable stuff is against the stadium which is owner separately from the club, hence any money that MSD are pouring into the club itself is in the hope a deal is arranged and they lose a fiver rather than a tenner HMRC is first on the list to be paid and at best will get 25p in the pound meaning the club has stolen an awful lot of money from the public purse, not too mention the player they promised to pay Arsenal 10 million for and havent actually paid and Arsenal have been kind enough to delay payment, he was responsible for points for them last season when really he should have been illegible to play, if i dont pay my car loan the bank takes my car away and i cant use it... MSD are a fully secured creditor they aren't losing a penny, yes the loan to Morris is secured against the stadium, I think Nixon mentioned the new loans are too or are against the training ground.
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Post by Squeekster on Jun 15, 2022 17:45:14 GMT
In a story full of villains he’s the only person coming out of it with any credit. Paul Hart became a figure good at leading beleaguered clubs but by all accounts Rooney is the one keeping them on life support. There have been a few posts questioning the difference between Derby and Bury and I wonder how much of it is because Rooney is helping them out, a lot. Which is why I can’t stand that sanctimonious twat Neville who could of saved bury with change from inside his sofa But why should he?
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Jun 15, 2022 17:52:02 GMT
Which is why I can’t stand that sanctimonious twat Neville who could of saved bury with change from inside his sofa But why should he? Exactly. Love it how people think they can tell others how to spend their money. Mental.
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Post by Mr Ron Agent on Jun 15, 2022 17:57:32 GMT
Which is why I can’t stand that sanctimonious twat Neville who could of saved bury with change from inside his sofa But why should he? He was already a part owner of Salford City. Don’t think the rules allow someone to be an owner of two clubs.
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Post by wagsastokie on Jun 15, 2022 18:13:02 GMT
Which is why I can’t stand that sanctimonious twat Neville who could of saved bury with change from inside his sofa But why should he? Well the fact both his parents worked for many years for bury Bury paid the wages that put food on his table whilst they were growing up Paid the wages that put a roof over his head whilst growing up His mother was still an employee when they went under Oh and I forgot the main reason the sanctimonious tosser considers himself the champion of the poor working class
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Post by Mr Ron Agent on Jun 15, 2022 18:29:04 GMT
Well the fact both his parents worked for many years for bury Bury paid the wages that put food on his table whilst they were growing up Paid the wages that put a roof over his head whilst growing up His mother was still an employee when they went under Oh and I forgot the main reason the sanctimonious tosser considers himself the champion of the poor working class Some of your statements may well be true but as previously stated he could not get involved with Bury while he was a director of Salford City. Your comments are just an unfounded excuse to aim equally sanctimonious bile at someone you clearly dislike.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jun 15, 2022 20:11:32 GMT
i think any of the personally liable stuff is against the stadium which is owner separately from the club, hence any money that MSD are pouring into the club itself is in the hope a deal is arranged and they lose a fiver rather than a tenner HMRC is first on the list to be paid and at best will get 25p in the pound meaning the club has stolen an awful lot of money from the public purse, not too mention the player they promised to pay Arsenal 10 million for and havent actually paid and Arsenal have been kind enough to delay payment, he was responsible for points for them last season when really he should have been illegible to play, if i dont pay my car loan the bank takes my car away and i cant use it... MSD are a fully secured creditor they aren't losing a penny, yes the loan to Morris is secured against the stadium, I think Nixon mentioned the new loans are too or are against the training ground. Training ground mate.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jun 15, 2022 20:15:59 GMT
Is that the spooky severed hand of Mel Morris on Appleby's left shoulder mate?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 15, 2022 20:20:56 GMT
Is that the spooky severed hand of Mel Morris on Appleby's left shoulder mate? Could well be mate and Sam Rush who was taken to court by Morris/Derby
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jun 15, 2022 20:32:50 GMT
Is that the spooky severed hand of Mel Morris on Appleby's left shoulder mate? Could well be mate and Sam Rush who was taken to court by Morris/Derby Another case Morris lost in court.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 15, 2022 20:42:12 GMT
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 15, 2022 21:51:49 GMT
Well the fact both his parents worked for many years for bury Bury paid the wages that put food on his table whilst they were growing up Paid the wages that put a roof over his head whilst growing up His mother was still an employee when they went under Oh and I forgot the main reason the sanctimonious tosser considers himself the champion of the poor working class The answer to that is still why should he, his parents worked there so what. The food on the table bit is nonsense, his parents did that by working, the club didn’t give them everything for free.
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Post by spitthedog on Jun 15, 2022 23:41:40 GMT
Well the fact both his parents worked for many years for bury Bury paid the wages that put food on his table whilst they were growing up Paid the wages that put a roof over his head whilst growing up His mother was still an employee when they went under Oh and I forgot the main reason the sanctimonious tosser considers himself the champion of the poor working class The answer to that is still why should he, his parents worked there so what. The food on the table bit is nonsense, his parents did that by working, the club didn’t give them everything for free. moreso, the Neville family raised a lot of money for that club which was wasted by incompetent owners. Neville would have had to pay £2m for Bury and then inherited huge debts, which he couldn't do anyway as he was financially committed to Salford since 2014 so it's a nonsense. anyway back to Derby.......
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