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Post by Gob Bluth on Jun 28, 2022 21:35:28 GMT
Kircher has posted on Twitter, first time since he was honestly, definitely wiring the monies, but not quite today. I won’t derail this thread with its contents but I’m going to guess that’s Kircher’s Twitter account burned. You sure you’ve not been reading this parody account🤣 Sorry, I thought it was his genuine account.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 28, 2022 22:11:07 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 28, 2022 22:16:29 GMT
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Post by northernstokie on Jun 29, 2022 1:34:25 GMT
Foreign owners would of probably jumped ship though leaving all the debt with the club and possibly putting us into a worse situation. At least with the Coates you know they are willing to take hit with losing some of there cash even if some decisions have been questionable. Their heart is in the right place. I will never understand this attitude. I just wouldn't want to us to be having the problems are Derby are. If our owners suddenly left and decided to leave the debt then we would be so much worse off than we are now.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 29, 2022 5:57:01 GMT
I will never understand this attitude. I just wouldn't want to us to be having the problems are Derby are. If our owners suddenly left and decided to leave the debt then we would be so much worse off than we are now. We would and that would totally be on them. They are awful owners.
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Post by knype on Jun 29, 2022 5:57:29 GMT
I just wouldn't want to us to be having the problems are Derby are. If our owners suddenly left and decided to leave the debt then we would be so much worse off than we are now. We would and that would totally be on them. They are awful owners. Absolute tosh
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 29, 2022 6:00:11 GMT
We would and that would totally be on them. They are awful owners. Absolute tosh How? If they left we’d be screwed. We’d be screwed because of the debts they have amassed. The debts are because they don’t know what they’re doing. What’s tosh about that?
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Post by knype on Jun 29, 2022 6:23:40 GMT
How? If they left we’d be screwed. We’d be screwed because of the debts they have amassed. The debts are because they don’t know what they’re doing. What’s tosh about that? Damned if they didn't spend, damned now they did?
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Post by Boothen on Jun 29, 2022 6:26:05 GMT
The debts are because they don’t know what they’re doing. Call me a cynical cunt, but I think you're wrong there. I think they know exactly what they're doing, after all they are billionaires and they do own the 3rd largest sports betting company in the World. I also think that, whilst they are supporters of Stoke City, if push comes to shove and they need to get out for some reason they'll have no qualms at all about sacrificing the club and leaving it on the scrapheap.
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Post by questionable on Jun 29, 2022 6:30:09 GMT
How? If they left we’d be screwed. We’d be screwed because of the debts they have amassed. The debts are because they don’t know what they’re doing. What’s tosh about that? It’s a mixture of the “localism” thing with a vast majority of Stoke fans, for example, Bursik came through the ranks etc, etc so he must be guaranteed a starting spot. Same with the owners, undoubtedly they’ve taken us to unimaginable heights in the past but now is now and taking away the “localism” BS they’ve set us back years with inept decisions “ Lambert” for one, if our owners were from say Singapore we’d be up in arms without doubt. From what I’ve been told Snr Coates is no longer actually involved at the club, it’s a terribly run club and has been for quite some time, do the maths and it’s obviously evident.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 29, 2022 6:34:10 GMT
How? If they left we’d be screwed. We’d be screwed because of the debts they have amassed. The debts are because they don’t know what they’re doing. What’s tosh about that? Damned if they didn't spend, damned now they did? They’re lazy. They’re slow. They let Hughes spend God knows how much on Wimmer, Zouma and Jess when the only thing that should have happened was sacking Hughes the summer before. That’s what 30m of debt right there with a decision that was appalling. And like when we got relegated. Sell some players and use that to spend. Limit the net spend. There’s no way Butland and Allen should have stayed after relegation. Both easily saleable and both easily replaceable. That’s 15-20m at least less debt not factoring their wages. They’ve only got themselves to blame.
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Post by knype on Jun 29, 2022 6:44:55 GMT
Damned if they didn't spend, damned now they did? They’re lazy. They’re slow. They let Hughes spend God knows how much on Wimmer, Zouma and Jess when the only thing that should have happened was sacking Hughes the summer before. That’s what 30m of debt right there with a decision that was appalling. And like when we got relegated. Sell some players and use that to spend. Limit the net spend. There’s no way Butland and Allen should have stayed after relegation. Both easily saleable and both easily replaceable. That’s 15-20m at least less debt not factoring their wages. They’ve only got themselves to blame. They backed their manager with Hughes... All if's and but's unfortunately and great to say in hindsight or when sitting behind a keyboard with no responsibilty for your decisions. As for the lazy and slow remark, wow.. Multi Billionaires running maybe the biggest betting corporation in the world?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 29, 2022 6:51:45 GMT
They’re lazy. They’re slow. They let Hughes spend God knows how much on Wimmer, Zouma and Jess when the only thing that should have happened was sacking Hughes the summer before. That’s what 30m of debt right there with a decision that was appalling. And like when we got relegated. Sell some players and use that to spend. Limit the net spend. There’s no way Butland and Allen should have stayed after relegation. Both easily saleable and both easily replaceable. That’s 15-20m at least less debt not factoring their wages. They’ve only got themselves to blame. They backed their manager with Hughes... All if's and but's unfortunately and great to say in hindsight or when sitting behind a keyboard with no responsibilty for your decisions. As for the lazy and slow remark, wow.. Multi Billionaires running maybe the biggest betting corporation in the world? At the wrong time. It’s not hindsight. It was being said at the time. He should have been sacked before Wimmer et al stepped foot in the building. The only people that couldn’t see it was them. Yes. We are terribly ran business and bear no correlation to bet365. This club is ran like an old boys network. Ideally we need a new owner to sort us out because with this lot in charge it feels like this is the way it’s going to be for a while.
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Post by knype on Jun 29, 2022 6:54:15 GMT
They backed their manager with Hughes... All if's and but's unfortunately and great to say in hindsight or when sitting behind a keyboard with no responsibilty for your decisions. As for the lazy and slow remark, wow.. Multi Billionaires running maybe the biggest betting corporation in the world? At the wrong time. It’s not hindsight. It was being said at the time. He should have been sacked before Wimmer et al stepped foot in the building. The only people that couldn’t see it was them. Yes. We are terribly ran business and bear no correlation to bet365. This club is ran like an old boys network. Ideally we need a new owner to sort us out because with this lot in charge it feels like this is the way it’s going to be for a while. Disagree massively, without them we would be screwed, aside from the bigger clubs, there are not queues of multi billionaires lining up to but clubs?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 29, 2022 6:55:37 GMT
At the wrong time. It’s not hindsight. It was being said at the time. He should have been sacked before Wimmer et al stepped foot in the building. The only people that couldn’t see it was them. Yes. We are terribly ran business and bear no correlation to bet365. This club is ran like an old boys network. Ideally we need a new owner to sort us out because with this lot in charge it feels like this is the way it’s going to be for a while. Disagree massively, without them we would be screwed, aside from the bigger clubs, there are not queues of multi billionaires lining up to but clubs? We would because of their ineptitude 🤣 They are the reason we’d be screwed. We have multi billionaire owners and they’re crap.
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Post by theonlooker on Jun 29, 2022 7:15:04 GMT
At the wrong time. It’s not hindsight. It was being said at the time. He should have been sacked before Wimmer et al stepped foot in the building. The only people that couldn’t see it was them. Yes. We are terribly ran business and bear no correlation to bet365. This club is ran like an old boys network. Ideally we need a new owner to sort us out because with this lot in charge it feels like this is the way it’s going to be for a while. Disagree massively, without them we would be screwed, aside from the bigger clubs, there are not queues of multi billionaires lining up to but clubs? It's their debt though. Nobody held a gun to their heads over any of their decisions. Not one supporter suggested Paul Lambert to save us in the PL. Had the supporters knew we were spending 50M+ I'm not sure there were many that would have said Gary Rowett is the man to spend it. Absolutely nobody suggested Nathan Jones to replace him either. They've loaded us up to our tits in debt whilst making a catalogue of catastrophic managerial decisions amid a backdrop of a cosy club upstairs with no real accountability, according to Mark Hughes no genuine targets to achieve and a structure so archaic it was laughed out of town in the 80s. It's specifically their club and they are running it their way. Hundreds of millions of pounds worth of debt racked up and four consecutive bottom half Championship finishes to go with it. Shameful.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jun 29, 2022 7:29:20 GMT
Sorry mate I might have missed it as I’ve been avoiding this thread since Bayern infected it with his ‘look at me’ virus, but why have you posted a picture of Kim Barnett?
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Post by scfc75 on Jun 29, 2022 7:40:07 GMT
Sorry mate I might have missed it as I’ve been avoiding this thread since Bayern infected it with his ‘look at me’ virus, but why have you posted a picture of Kim Barnett? 100 NO (Pages of the thread)
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 29, 2022 7:47:50 GMT
Sorry mate I might have missed it as I’ve been avoiding this thread since Bayern infected it with his ‘look at me’ virus, but why have you posted a picture of Kim Barnett? 100 pages up, I though using Kim Barnett would be appropriate.........
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Jun 29, 2022 7:52:51 GMT
Disagree massively, without them we would be screwed, aside from the bigger clubs, there are not queues of multi billionaires lining up to but clubs? It's their debt though. Nobody held a gun to their heads over any of their decisions. Not one supporter suggested Paul Lambert to save us in the PL. Had the supporters knew we were spending 50M+ I'm not sure there were many that would have said Gary Rowett is the man to spend it. Absolutely nobody suggested Nathan Jones to replace him either. They've loaded us up to our tits in debt whilst making a catalogue of catastrophic managerial decisions amid a backdrop of a cosy club upstairs with no real accountability, according to Mark Hughes no genuine targets to achieve and a structure so archaic it was laughed out of town in the 80s. It's specifically their club and they are running it their way. Hundreds of millions of pounds worth of debt racked up and four consecutive bottom half Championship finishes to go with it. Shameful. Its more than shameful its criminal they may run one of the biggest betting companies in the world but they have not got a clue how to run a football club. There is one reason why we are in the position we now find ourselves & thats the Coates family.
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Post by nottsover60 on Jun 29, 2022 8:03:00 GMT
How? If they left we’d be screwed. We’d be screwed because of the debts they have amassed. The debts are because they don’t know what they’re doing. What’s tosh about that? It’s a mixture of the “localism” thing with a vast majority of Stoke fans, for example, Bursik came through the ranks etc, etc so he must be guaranteed a starting spot. Same with the owners, undoubtedly they’ve taken us to unimaginable heights in the past but now is now and taking away the “localism” BS they’ve set us back years with inept decisions “ Lambert” for one, if our owners were from say Singapore we’d be up in arms without doubt. From what I’ve been told Snr Coates is no longer actually involved at the club, it’s a terribly run club and has been for quite some time, do the maths and it’s obviously evident. Slightly off topic but Bursik didn't come through the ranks. Joined us from Wimbledon at 17 - bigger club comes calling a bit like we're complaining about possibly happening to Tezgel.
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Post by J-Roar on Jun 29, 2022 8:08:31 GMT
They’re lazy. They’re slow. They let Hughes spend God knows how much on Wimmer, Zouma and Jess when the only thing that should have happened was sacking Hughes the summer before. That’s what 30m of debt right there with a decision that was appalling. And like when we got relegated. Sell some players and use that to spend. Limit the net spend. There’s no way Butland and Allen should have stayed after relegation. Both easily saleable and both easily replaceable. That’s 15-20m at least less debt not factoring their wages. They’ve only got themselves to blame. They backed their manager with Hughes... All if's and but's unfortunately and great to say in hindsight or when sitting behind a keyboard with no responsibilty for your decisions. As for the lazy and slow remark, wow.. Multi Billionaires running maybe the biggest betting corporation in the world? To be fair, they aren't running Bet365 - the brains of the family is doing that. Coates Jnr has been given the train set to play with and is showing why he's nowhere near the main business.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jun 29, 2022 8:28:39 GMT
Sorry mate I might have missed it as I’ve been avoiding this thread since Bayern infected it with his ‘look at me’ virus, but why have you posted a picture of Kim Barnett? 100 pages up, I though using Kim Barnett would be appropriate......... Ah right. Way too subtle for me. Of no interest whatsoever I came from the same place as Kim Barnett and he was annoyingly good at all sports. In fact I think he was offered a contract at Stoke but chose cricket instead.
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Jun 29, 2022 8:47:53 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 29, 2022 8:49:11 GMT
He was a decent footballer was Kim, but these days he'd be more of a deep lying midfielder........
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Post by J-Roar on Jun 29, 2022 8:52:17 GMT
He was a decent footballer was Kim, but these days he'd be more of a deep lying midfielder........ Not much of a Barnet to be fair.
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Post by werrington on Jun 29, 2022 8:53:14 GMT
He was a decent footballer was Kim, but these days he'd be more of a deep lying midfielder........ Not sure if it’s been mentioned as I’ve just lumped on to the last page I’m sure he’s from Stoke
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 29, 2022 8:53:49 GMT
He was a decent footballer was Kim, but these days he'd be more of a deep lying midfielder........ Not sure if it’s been mentioned as I’ve just lumped on to the last page I’m sure he’s from Stoke Leek isn't he?
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Post by cheadlepotter on Jun 29, 2022 8:57:14 GMT
Not sure if it’s been mentioned as I’ve just lumped on to the last page I’m sure he’s from Stoke Leek isn't he? Nice fella. Chatted to him at work a few times in Blythe so guessing he lives locally so Leek makes sense.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jun 29, 2022 9:02:23 GMT
They backed their manager with Hughes... All if's and but's unfortunately and great to say in hindsight or when sitting behind a keyboard with no responsibilty for your decisions. As for the lazy and slow remark, wow.. Multi Billionaires running maybe the biggest betting corporation in the world? To be fair, they aren't running Bet365 - the brains of the family is doing that. Coates Jnr has been given the train set to play with and is showing why he's nowhere near the main business. Trouble is the brains of the family has no interest or fondness for Stoke City so Jnr is our best hope for the future. That leaves us with the hope that he can find someone to show him how to play with the train set or better still play with it for him whilst he excitedly watches the train.
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