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Post by meltonjohn on Jul 15, 2021 20:03:05 GMT
Ah, the truth is outing now. Hopefully people start realising how toxic the media has become. They revel in the division they are providing the oxygen for. The likes of the Independent and Guardian in particular should be held to account for this. Similarly the likes of the express and mail should also be held to account for the shyte they spout. But in-between all this are far worse offenders with the likes of Rolling Stone magazine and Esquire and dozens of other "fully paid up justice warrior virtue signallers" who really do seem to get away with talking utter bollox with zero consequences. They are literally brainwashing youth into believing the utter drivel that dribbles out of their pathetic little mouths. There is a whole race baiting industry behind all this and many jobs rely on it. Its a cancer that is in many ways as bad as the racism that does actually exist. As bad as the racism, absolute bollocks!
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Post by meltonjohn on Jul 15, 2021 20:05:59 GMT
Actually, I think you're perfectly entitled to your views and don't disagree with a lot of them, especially the idea that a sensible debate should be had on the subject. And you're right, it makes a pleasant change to discuss stuff without the usual petty insults and childish name-calling you get from some people on here! I think the best starting point would be to ask the people who are subjected to this kind of stuff, like Cobham's disabled friend and people from an ethnic minority, what their daily experiences are like and what they think should be done to address these problems. That will provide a much better perspective on the whole issue and my suspicion is that, if anything, their experiences will show the situation to be pretty unpleasant for a lot of these people. We just don't see much of it because we are fortunate to be in the majority. You mentioned that the Guardian often comes out with a lot of incendiary guff about the latest hot topic victim group. I don't read it so I can't say, but it's notable that of all the UK newspapers that one regularly tops polls for reliability and trustworthiness of its journalism, along with The Times. A very fair post. I am conflicted with the Guardian as I read it a lot online. I've just noticed that more recently they have been getting involved in stuff which in my opinion is very divisive. To be fair I think a lot of that is opinion pieces from guest writers. So on the one hand I think its shyte but on the other I like it. But I figure that's ok. I like my missus some of the time and sometimes I much prefer the dog (most of the time actually but keep that quiet ) The best thing about the Guardian is that it isn’t a government mouthpiece unlike most of the other papers. I find the Sun is the worst culprit. A comic of the lowest order. Ask any Liverpudlian…..
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 15, 2021 20:38:21 GMT
Ah, the truth is outing now. Hopefully people start realising how toxic the media has become. They revel in the division they are providing the oxygen for. The likes of the Independent and Guardian in particular should be held to account for this. Similarly the likes of the express and mail should also be held to account for the shyte they spout. But in-between all this are far worse offenders with the likes of Rolling Stone magazine and Esquire and dozens of other "fully paid up justice warrior virtue signallers" who really do seem to get away with talking utter bollox with zero consequences. They are literally brainwashing youth into believing the utter drivel that dribbles out of their pathetic little mouths. There is a whole race baiting industry behind all this and many jobs rely on it. Its a cancer that is in many ways as bad as the racism that does actually exist. As bad as the racism, absolute bollocks! I didn't say that though did I. Words are important.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 15, 2021 20:39:31 GMT
A very fair post. I am conflicted with the Guardian as I read it a lot online. I've just noticed that more recently they have been getting involved in stuff which in my opinion is very divisive. To be fair I think a lot of that is opinion pieces from guest writers. So on the one hand I think its shyte but on the other I like it. But I figure that's ok. I like my missus some of the time and sometimes I much prefer the dog (most of the time actually but keep that quiet ) The best thing about the Guardian is that it isn’t a government mouthpiece unlike most of the other papers. I find the Sun is the worst culprit. A comic of the lowest order. Ask any Liverpudlian….. Whilst I agree with what you say, I don't think you'll get an unbiased view from a scouser to be fair.
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Post by skip on Sept 2, 2021 22:58:58 GMT
From the Daily Telegraph:
This was one stunning way to respond to the racists. Not that the racists should have even been here. Facing a two-match stadium ban from Uefa for the disgusting behaviour of their fans at Euro 2020 Hungary were allowed a 60,000 full house inside the Puskas Arena – including their deplorable black-shirted ultras massed behind one goal – because Fifa chose to ignore it for World Cup qualifiers.
They cannot ignore this. As England’s football turned beautiful so the atmosphere turned depressingly ugly with ‘monkey chants’ aimed at Raheem Sterling, who was outstanding and opened the scoring, and at substitute Jude Bellingham as he warmed up. And that is why England players continue to take the knee – and they were furiously booed and whistled at for doing that also."
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Post by Eggybread on Sept 2, 2021 23:19:36 GMT
From the Daily Telegraph: This was one stunning way to respond to the racists. Not that the racists should have even been here. Facing a two-match stadium ban from Uefa for the disgusting behaviour of their fans at Euro 2020 Hungary were allowed a 60,000 full house inside the Puskas Arena – including their deplorable black-shirted ultras massed behind one goal – because Fifa chose to ignore it for World Cup qualifiers. They cannot ignore this. As England’s football turned beautiful so the atmosphere turned depressingly ugly with ‘monkey chants’ aimed at Raheem Sterling, who was outstanding and opened the scoring, and at substitute Jude Bellingham as he warmed up. And that is why England players continue to take the knee – and they were furiously booed and whistled at for doing that also."I wonder if the Hungarians were booing the knee gesture because of their Marxist beliefs also I wonder if the Stoke anti knee ultras will be booing our players next home game?
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Post by thevoid on Sept 3, 2021 5:36:38 GMT
From the Daily Telegraph: This was one stunning way to respond to the racists. Not that the racists should have even been here. Facing a two-match stadium ban from Uefa for the disgusting behaviour of their fans at Euro 2020 Hungary were allowed a 60,000 full house inside the Puskas Arena – including their deplorable black-shirted ultras massed behind one goal – because Fifa chose to ignore it for World Cup qualifiers. They cannot ignore this. As England’s football turned beautiful so the atmosphere turned depressingly ugly with ‘monkey chants’ aimed at Raheem Sterling, who was outstanding and opened the scoring, and at substitute Jude Bellingham as he warmed up. And that is why England players continue to take the knee – and they were furiously booed and whistled at for doing that also."I wonder if the Hungarians were booing the knee gesture because of their Marxist beliefs also I wonder if the Stoke anti knee ultras will be booing our players next home game? I'm not anti-knee. They're quite handy for helping one get from A to B.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 3, 2021 6:35:14 GMT
From the Daily Telegraph: This was one stunning way to respond to the racists. Not that the racists should have even been here. Facing a two-match stadium ban from Uefa for the disgusting behaviour of their fans at Euro 2020 Hungary were allowed a 60,000 full house inside the Puskas Arena – including their deplorable black-shirted ultras massed behind one goal – because Fifa chose to ignore it for World Cup qualifiers. They cannot ignore this. As England’s football turned beautiful so the atmosphere turned depressingly ugly with ‘monkey chants’ aimed at Raheem Sterling, who was outstanding and opened the scoring, and at substitute Jude Bellingham as he warmed up. And that is why England players continue to take the knee – and they were furiously booed and whistled at for doing that also."I wonder if the Hungarians were booing the knee gesture because of their Marxist beliefs also I wonder if the Stoke anti knee ultras will be booing our players next home game? I think, like over here, it's because they hate Marxism so much...! Southgate:"The world is modernising and although some people are stuck in their ways of thinking and their prejudices, they're going to be the dinosaurs in the end because the world is changing." He's spot on there.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 4, 2021 13:40:38 GMT
Even the Telegraph, not normally shy of picking up on any anti-BLM cause, appears to have finally accepted what most of us have been saying for some time... Chief Football Correspondent Jason Burt "There are many who feel that taking the knee is dividing the anti-racism message and dislike it for what it can be perceived to be. I do not agree with that. It is clear it is only an anti-racism message for the players and any attempt to interpret it otherwise by those seeking to gain political advantage is wrong". Well, we got there in the end
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 4, 2021 14:39:09 GMT
Even the Telegraph, not normally shy of picking up on any anti-BLM cause, appears to have finally accepted what most of us have been saying for some time... Chief Football Correspondent Jason Burt "There are many who feel that taking the knee is dividing the anti-racism message and dislike it for what it can be perceived to be. I do not agree with that. It is clear it is only an anti-racism message for the players and any attempt to interpret it otherwise by those seeking to gain political advantage is wrong". Well, we got there in the end I can’t help but observe the told-you-so glee you and others seem to be taking in the “win” you think this disturbing incident has given you. It’s very conspicuous. One might almost think you don’t give a fucking shit about racism in football.
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Post by thevoid on Sept 4, 2021 14:40:31 GMT
Even the Telegraph, not normally shy of picking up on any anti-BLM cause, appears to have finally accepted what most of us have been saying for some time... Chief Football Correspondent Jason Burt "There are many who feel that taking the knee is dividing the anti-racism message and dislike it for what it can be perceived to be. I do not agree with that. It is clear it is only an anti-racism message for the players and any attempt to interpret it otherwise by those seeking to gain political advantage is wrong". Well, we got there in the end I can’t help but observe the told-you-so glee you and others seem to be taking in the “win” you think this disturbing incident has given you. It’s very conspicuous. One might almost think you don’t give a fucking shit about racism in football. Let them have their 'little wins' mate. It doesn't happen very often 😎
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 4, 2021 14:48:50 GMT
I can’t help but observe the told-you-so glee you and others seem to be taking in the “win” you think this disturbing incident has given you. It’s very conspicuous. One might almost think you don’t give a fucking shit about racism in football. Let them have their 'little wins' mate. It doesn't happen very often 😎 It’s just very telling. The more of these incidents the better for some people
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Post by thevoid on Sept 4, 2021 18:17:41 GMT
Let them have their 'little wins' mate. It doesn't happen very often 😎 It’s just very telling. The more of these incidents the better for some people To keep the doctor in a job, the patient must remain sick.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 5, 2021 9:35:39 GMT
Even the Telegraph, not normally shy of picking up on any anti-BLM cause, appears to have finally accepted what most of us have been saying for some time... Chief Football Correspondent Jason Burt "There are many who feel that taking the knee is dividing the anti-racism message and dislike it for what it can be perceived to be. I do not agree with that. It is clear it is only an anti-racism message for the players and any attempt to interpret it otherwise by those seeking to gain political advantage is wrong". Well, we got there in the end I can’t help but observe the told-you-so glee you and others seem to be taking in the “win” you think this disturbing incident has given you. It’s very conspicuous. One might almost think you don’t give a fucking shit about racism in football. One thing that this whole incident in Hungary shows is that despite all the press and social media hooha around racism in the U.K. we’re a hell of a lot more diverse place to live than most other countries we just seem to hate accepting it and would rather put ourselves down. Yes there will always be a nasty minority but the vast majority of people in the U.K. are very open minded in their views.
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Post by leicspotter on Sept 9, 2021 18:19:37 GMT
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