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Post by thevoid on May 25, 2022 17:32:28 GMT
Christ, even Burnley are making more progressive appointments than us now!
It's probably only Cardiff who have a more uninspiring list of recent managers than us.
Oh well, in the future when clubs are appointing aliens as managers we'll probably start considering Europeans 🙄
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 25, 2022 19:20:37 GMT
Disappointed about that as he will have the pick of the Man City kids? Delap? Its one fit things we benefited from with Hughes a top level network , Bojan , Moses , Arnie , Shaq Affelay , Zouma , Muniesa , were all delivered as a result of it another thing our Current manager just cant deliver transfer experience or a top level network it really doesnt bode well for this summer Exactly why I can’t see why people keep suggesting him as DoF. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 25, 2022 20:03:44 GMT
Its one fit things we benefited from with Hughes a top level network , Bojan , Moses , Arnie , Shaq Affelay , Zouma , Muniesa , were all delivered as a result of it another thing our Current manager just cant deliver transfer experience or a top level network it really doesnt bode well for this summer Bradford should have a good window then. New level but they’ve made the step everyone should try and make with the redourcevthe appointment of a manager from the very highest level possible the key appointment where you should try and punch above your weight , see silva , conte , etc |
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Post by firfuxache on May 25, 2022 20:59:33 GMT
Bradford should have a good window then. New level but they’ve made the step everyone should try and make with the redourcevthe appointment of a manager from the very highest level possible the key appointment where you should try and punch above your weight , see silva , conte , etc What’s a redourcevthe appointment of a manager and how do you make one? For the life of me I can’t decipher what it means. |
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Post by lordb on May 25, 2022 22:02:06 GMT
Has assumed Kompany had been a success but Anderlecht finished 3rd which is really poor for them
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Post by nigerianstokie on May 25, 2022 22:06:00 GMT
Has assumed Kompany had been a success but Anderlecht finished 3rd which is really poor for them I think they’d been a fair way off the pace in recent seasons in fairness. Spent a lot of money on experienced plodders and it never worked. Brugge, Genk and to a lesser extent Gent and Antwerp have been the main 4 the last couple of years I think I’m right in saying. |
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Post by nigerianstokie on May 25, 2022 22:08:15 GMT
Has assumed Kompany had been a success but Anderlecht finished 3rd which is really poor for them I think they’d been a fair way off the pace in recent seasons in fairness. Spent a lot of money on experienced plodders and it never worked. Brugge, Genk and to a lesser extent Gent and Antwerp have been the main 4 the last couple of years I think I’m right in saying. So maybe not as bad as I’d thought, but they’re certainly not the all-conquering Belgian force they were. 3rd isn’t a dreadful job with them. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 25, 2022 22:15:45 GMT
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Post by lordb on May 26, 2022 7:28:09 GMT
I think they’d been a fair way off the pace in recent seasons in fairness. Spent a lot of money on experienced plodders and it never worked. Brugge, Genk and to a lesser extent Gent and Antwerp have been the main 4 the last couple of years I think I’m right in saying. So maybe not as bad as I’d thought, but they’re certainly not the all-conquering Belgian force they were. 3rd isn’t a dreadful job with them. But not actually successful either |
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Post by nigerianstokie on May 26, 2022 9:35:55 GMT
So maybe not as bad as I’d thought, but they’re certainly not the all-conquering Belgian force they were. 3rd isn’t a dreadful job with them. But not actually successful either No, he hasn’t been really. He’s as good of a “name” as you’re going to get though. I do think he’ll make a brilliant manager for someone, I’m not entirely convinced that’ll be Burnley however. |
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Post by lordb on May 26, 2022 10:43:37 GMT
But not actually successful either No, he hasn’t been really. He’s as good of a “name” as you’re going to get though. I do think he’ll make a brilliant manager for someone, I’m not entirely convinced that’ll be Burnley however. Only one season but really should be dominant with Anderlecht maybe going into a troubled Burnley will suit him better, big name could give them a fillip? Jury out I think |
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Post by FullerMagic on May 26, 2022 11:24:54 GMT
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Post by thevoid on May 26, 2022 12:17:29 GMT
They're rooting in the bargain basement- Ainsworth and now this guy? |
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Post by callas12 on May 26, 2022 12:33:22 GMT
They're rooting in the bargain basement- Ainsworth and now this guy? Remember when QPR were supposedly the next power house of football when Fernández & the F1 connected folk were plowing their money in. Recall the Harry Redknapp revolution where he went mad on expensive signings and all came to No avail as they got relegated the year after they only just scraped through when Hughes was in charge there. That was the era when Odemwingie suddenly became a surprising SSN online story! But ever since they've just remained a mediocre Champo Club who do a abit but don't spend massive and never really look like they're going to go up or down! |
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Post by thevoid on May 26, 2022 12:36:31 GMT
They're rooting in the bargain basement- Ainsworth and now this guy? Remember when QPR were supposedly the next power house of football when Fernández & the F1 connected folk were plowing their money in. Recall the Harry Redknapp revolution where he went mad on expensive signings and all came to No avail as they got relegated the year after they only just scraped through when Hughes was in charge there. That was the era when Odemwingie suddenly became a surprising SSN online story! But ever since they've just remained a mediocre Champo Club who do a abit but don't spend massive and never really look like they're going to go up or down! Yes I do, weren't they the richest club in the world at one point? |
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Post by FullerMagic on May 26, 2022 12:42:00 GMT
They're rooting in the bargain basement- Ainsworth and now this guy? Dunno - he is the type you could get excited by. Supposedly the brains behind Gerrard, formerly at Liverpool and Rangers. |
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Post by werrington on May 26, 2022 13:06:58 GMT
They're rooting in the bargain basement- Ainsworth and now this guy? Dunno - he is the type you could get excited by. Supposedly the brains behind Gerrard, formerly at Liverpool and Rangers. Said it for years on here now….There’s many like him just awaiting their chance People need to see past the same tired faces |
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Post by bagnallboothen on May 26, 2022 13:15:21 GMT
Remember when QPR were supposedly the next power house of football when Fernández & the F1 connected folk were plowing their money in. Recall the Harry Redknapp revolution where he went mad on expensive signings and all came to No avail as they got relegated the year after they only just scraped through when Hughes was in charge there. That was the era when Odemwingie suddenly became a surprising SSN online story! But ever since they've just remained a mediocre Champo Club who do a abit but don't spend massive and never really look like they're going to go up or down! Yes I do, weren't they the richest club in the world at one point? The Mittal family have just been named 6th in the UK rich list with a fortune of £17 billion, although it appears they only own 3%. |
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Post by cdlstoke on May 26, 2022 18:13:25 GMT
Just shows what a wise decision we made in keeping MON. With the restrictive selection policy of the family, combined with the short turnaround AND the dearth of available options that fit in with the family we really would have been scratching around the grotty pool of yesterday's men. It would have been Mick McCarthy, Tony Mowbray or someone like Chris Hughton. Even though I wouldn’t want any of those managers, everyone is a better manager than are clown O’Neil. |
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Post by ibby on May 26, 2022 18:39:49 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 26, 2022 18:42:30 GMT
Said it for years on here now….There’s many like him just awaiting their chance People need to see past the same tired faces Critchley at Blackpool, who I’ve been banging on about for the last 6 months is one of those. He will definitely get a better offer at some point. |
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Post by stokefc on May 26, 2022 19:16:08 GMT
They're rooting in the bargain basement- Ainsworth and now this guy? Dunno - he is the type you could get excited by. Supposedly the brains behind Gerrard, formerly at Liverpool and Rangers.Ha, like the humour FM |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 26, 2022 20:09:08 GMT
Just shows what a wise decision we made in keeping MON. With the restrictive selection policy of the family, combined with the short turnaround AND the dearth of available options that fit in with the family we really would have been scratching around the grotty pool of yesterday's men. It would have been Mick McCarthy, Tony Mowbray or someone like Chris Hughton. Even though I wouldn’t want any of those managers, everyone is a better manager than are clown O’Neil. Yeah I mean Hughton is such a good manager he had a promotion capable team languishing at the bottom of the league that MON had over half a league above him. Mad Mick looked like taking Cardiff down and an inexperienced bloke easily out did him. Granted I think Mowbray is a better manager than MON, topped the league with WBA with a record points and goals scored. Don’t know whether that record stands but couldn’t see MON matching it with the best squad the championship had ever seen. It’s just not in him. |
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Post by cdlstoke on May 26, 2022 20:24:49 GMT
Even though I wouldn’t want any of those managers, everyone is a better manager than are clown O’Neil. Yeah I mean Hughton is such a good manager he had a promotion capable team languishing at the bottom of the league that MON had over half a league above him. Mad Mick looked like taking Cardiff down and an inexperienced bloke easily out did him. Granted I think Mowbray is a better manager than MON, topped the league with WBA with a record points and goals scored. Don’t know whether that record stands but couldn’t see MON matching it with the best squad the championship had ever seen. It’s just not in him. All won promotions to the premier league with other clubs. Did say, wouldn’t be my choice. Sometimes managers work out at one club but not another. O’Neil for me poor negative boring manager, fed up of hearing he’s a nice bloke. How the fuck does anyone know, because no one really knows the bloke. I know he’s the first manager stop me buying a season ticket, having one for over 20 years and being going well over 30 years. Each to their own though. |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 26, 2022 20:29:46 GMT
Yeah I mean Hughton is such a good manager he had a promotion capable team languishing at the bottom of the league that MON had over half a league above him. Mad Mick looked like taking Cardiff down and an inexperienced bloke easily out did him. Granted I think Mowbray is a better manager than MON, topped the league with WBA with a record points and goals scored. Don’t know whether that record stands but couldn’t see MON matching it with the best squad the championship had ever seen. It’s just not in him. All won promotions to the premier league with other clubs. Did say, wouldn’t be my choice. Sometimes managers work out at one club but not another. O’Neil for me poor negative boring manager, fed up of hearing he’s a nice bloke. How the fuck does anyone know, because no one really knows the bloke. I know he’s the first manager stop me buying a season ticket, having one for over 20 years and being going well over 30 years. Each to their own though. He’s not for me either but I think Hughton and Mad Mick would be even worse. I’d like a progressive manager who puts more emphasis on getting their team scoring but we don’t do those. |
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Post by cdlstoke on May 26, 2022 20:36:21 GMT
All won promotions to the premier league with other clubs. Did say, wouldn’t be my choice. Sometimes managers work out at one club but not another. O’Neil for me poor negative boring manager, fed up of hearing he’s a nice bloke. How the fuck does anyone know, because no one really knows the bloke. I know he’s the first manager stop me buying a season ticket, having one for over 20 years and being going well over 30 years. Each to their own though. He’s not for me either but I think Hughton and Mad Mick would be even worse. I’d like a progressive manager who puts more emphasis on getting their team scoring but we don’t do those. I agree. I wouldn’t trust the Coates family picking any manager and that’s not knocking them for investment, but their know how to run a club. Just think they need employ someone who knows how run a club in the modern game and leave it to them find the right manager. Unfortunately I can’t see this happening. |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 26, 2022 20:44:05 GMT
He’s not for me either but I think Hughton and Mad Mick would be even worse. I’d like a progressive manager who puts more emphasis on getting their team scoring but we don’t do those. I agree. I wouldn’t trust the Coates family picking any manager and that’s not knocking them for investment, but their know how to run a club. Just think they need employ someone who knows how run a club in the modern game and leave it to them find the right manager. Unfortunately I can’t see this happening. Exactly, I think we’ve now got Father and Son reinforcing each other that they know what they’re doing when they clearly don’t . They need a Levy. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 29, 2022 9:50:30 GMT
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Post by mrcoke on May 29, 2022 12:47:34 GMT
Yeah I mean Hughton is such a good manager he had a promotion capable team languishing at the bottom of the league that MON had over half a league above him. Mad Mick looked like taking Cardiff down and an inexperienced bloke easily out did him. Granted I think Mowbray is a better manager than MON, topped the league with WBA with a record points and goals scored. Don’t know whether that record stands but couldn’t see MON matching it with the best squad the championship had ever seen. It’s just not in him. All won promotions to the premier league with other clubs. Did say, wouldn’t be my choice. Sometimes managers work out at one club but not another. O’Neil for me poor negative boring manager, fed up of hearing he’s a nice bloke. How the fuck does anyone know, because no one really knows the bloke. I know he’s the first manager stop me buying a season ticket, having one for over 20 years and being going well over 30 years. Each to their own though. I think your comment " Sometimes managers work out at one club but not another" hits the nail on the head. Looking at those clubs that get promoted, it is clear that their manager "clicked" at the club and achieved quick success, invariably getting promoted within two full seasons. Vary rarely do managers take longer to achieve success, even those whose start is poor such as Wilder at Sheffield Utd. There could not be a better example than Nathan Jones who clearly has the ability to achieve success with one bunch of players but not another. But there are many others who get promotion at one club, then struggle at another. MON achieved success at international level where he can pick from a large number and have players who turn up already highly motivated, ready to pull on their national shirt. It's a different world in the day to day grind of league football. It's the role of successful club owners/board to recognise when "it's not working" and change the manager, not give blind loyalty to an employee who is clearly not cutting in, laudable as that sentiment may seem. If sustained success is not achieved for six months, then it is not going to happen long term, and clubs should be seriously considering changing their manager, harsh as that may sound. Talk of turning a club round taking years is wrong. A good example is Leeds, a huge club, who languished in lower divisions for decades, but achieved rapid success when the right manager for the job was appointed. More importantly, even though that manager had brought success, the owners recognised when "it's not working" and got rid promptly to avoid relegation. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 30, 2022 8:58:20 GMT
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