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Post by walrus on Nov 24, 2024 20:00:03 GMT
Not good news for us and our hopes of keeping Cannon for the rest of the season. A new manager may well want to take him back in January and get a closer look at him. Annoying. Ultimately he’s here on a season long loan. The status quo is that he will be playing for Stoke till next summer. I’ve seen a lot of comments implying that keeping hold of him would be some sort of coup, but we can and should keep hold of him by doing absolutely nothing. It’s pretty rare for clubs to recall players who are getting game time and growing confidence as that’s exactly the point of loans, to get game time and grow in confidence. |
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Post by devondumpling on Nov 25, 2024 13:39:36 GMT
Mental. 16th. Who else is there ? Talk about unrealistic expectations. Still he got a huge pay off no doubt. Seems a bit OTT. They werent great yesterday but they were playing Chelsea. No lover of Cooper but you cant argue with his track record Leicester forum thinks otherwise, poll before sacking was 90% for him out. |
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 25, 2024 14:59:11 GMT
Seems a bit OTT. They werent great yesterday but they were playing Chelsea. No lover of Cooper but you cant argue with his track record Leicester forum thinks otherwise, poll before sacking was 90% for him out. That just might be the problem with supporting a team who have won the PL in recent history! |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Nov 25, 2024 15:44:03 GMT
Leicester forum thinks otherwise, poll before sacking was 90% for him out. That just might be the problem with supporting a team who have won the PL in recent history! Yep Expectations too high |
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Post by LGH87 on Nov 25, 2024 16:15:17 GMT
Not good news for us and our hopes of keeping Cannon for the rest of the season. A new manager may well want to take him back in January and get a closer look at him. Annoying. Ultimately he’s here on a season long loan. The status quo is that he will be playing for Stoke till next summer. I’ve seen a lot of comments implying that keeping hold of him would be some sort of coup, but we can and should keep hold of him by doing absolutely nothing. It’s pretty rare for clubs to recall players who are getting game time and growing confidence as that’s exactly the point of loans, to get game time and grow in confidence. Norrington-Davies, Harewood-Bellis & Luke Cundle were out on loan before we poached them in January. Harry Clarke was recalled and sold to Ipswich. Ostigard was recalled and went to Genoa. Delap was recalled/cancelled his loan and went to Preston. That's 6 loans involving Stoke alone, I'm sure there's been one or two more that may have slipped my mind too. |
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Post by walrus on Nov 25, 2024 17:08:30 GMT
Ultimately he’s here on a season long loan. The status quo is that he will be playing for Stoke till next summer. I’ve seen a lot of comments implying that keeping hold of him would be some sort of coup, but we can and should keep hold of him by doing absolutely nothing. It’s pretty rare for clubs to recall players who are getting game time and growing confidence as that’s exactly the point of loans, to get game time and grow in confidence. Norrington-Davies, Harewood-Bellis & Luke Cundle were out on loan before we poached them in January. Harry Clarke was recalled and sold to Ipswich. Ostigard was recalled and went to Genoa. Delap was recalled/cancelled his loan and went to Preston. That's 6 loans involving Stoke alone, I'm sure there's been one or two more that may have slipped my mind too. Sure, it does happen. But none of the three that had their loans at Stoke cut short in your example were having an especially good time on their loan. Clarke was behind Sterling in the pecking order. Ostigard fell out with MON. Delap was widely considered a bit of a flop. Parent clubs are much less likely to cut a loan short if the player is playing regularly and playing well, which Cannon is. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 25, 2024 18:13:26 GMT
Norrington-Davies, Harewood-Bellis & Luke Cundle were out on loan before we poached them in January. Harry Clarke was recalled and sold to Ipswich. Ostigard was recalled and went to Genoa. Delap was recalled/cancelled his loan and went to Preston. That's 6 loans involving Stoke alone, I'm sure there's been one or two more that may have slipped my mind too. Sure, it does happen. But none of the three that had their loans at Stoke cut short in your example were having an especially good time on their loan. Clarke was behind Sterling in the pecking order. Ostigard fell out with MON. Delap was widely considered a bit of a flop. Parent clubs are much less likely to cut a loan short if the player is playing regularly and playing well, which Cannon is. Flop or otherwise, Delap left because of a fall out with Alex Neil that also involved his dad. 👍 |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 25, 2024 19:11:46 GMT
Ultimately he’s here on a season long loan. The status quo is that he will be playing for Stoke till next summer. I’ve seen a lot of comments implying that keeping hold of him would be some sort of coup, but we can and should keep hold of him by doing absolutely nothing. It’s pretty rare for clubs to recall players who are getting game time and growing confidence as that’s exactly the point of loans, to get game time and grow in confidence. Norrington-Davies, Harewood-Bellis & Luke Cundle were out on loan before we poached them in January. Harry Clarke was recalled and sold to Ipswich. Ostigard was recalled and went to Genoa. Delap was recalled/cancelled his loan and went to Preston. That's 6 loans involving Stoke alone, I'm sure there's been one or two more that may have slipped my mind too. Not quite sure that qualifies as that’s how the majority of loans conclude. The vast majority of loans go the distance and that only increases where players are getting a satisfactory amount of playing time. Are any of our loans not getting satisfactory playing time? That suggests they’re likely to go the distance unless higher standard placements become available. I’d argue that changes in placements that aren’t due to lack of minutes and aren’t at a higher level are not conducive to the players development. As an example our own loan of Cundle last January. Despite a late bloom the player would have been much better served remaining where he was. |
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Post by spiderpuss on Nov 25, 2024 20:45:16 GMT
Eddy Howe after tonight?
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Post by lordb on Nov 25, 2024 22:04:59 GMT
Mourinho might be a fit there Would probably have to be in the summer though |
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Post by spiderpuss on Nov 25, 2024 23:53:29 GMT
Mourinho might be a fit there Would probably have to be in the summer though Think JM has passed his sell by date in the Prem. I can't imagine the owners will wait a good 7 months though! |
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Post by Squeekster on Nov 26, 2024 9:21:13 GMT
Sure, it does happen. But none of the three that had their loans at Stoke cut short in your example were having an especially good time on their loan. Clarke was behind Sterling in the pecking order. Ostigard fell out with MON. Delap was widely considered a bit of a flop. Parent clubs are much less likely to cut a loan short if the player is playing regularly and playing well, which Cannon is. Flop or otherwise, Delap left because of a fall out with Alex Neil that also involved his dad. 👍 Personally don't think he was a flop just people had big expectations of a young footballer in a top league, the Ipswich manager was saying on Sunday how young he was and he'll only get better. |
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Post by LGH87 on Nov 26, 2024 14:57:19 GMT
Norrington-Davies, Harewood-Bellis & Luke Cundle were out on loan before we poached them in January. Harry Clarke was recalled and sold to Ipswich. Ostigard was recalled and went to Genoa. Delap was recalled/cancelled his loan and went to Preston. That's 6 loans involving Stoke alone, I'm sure there's been one or two more that may have slipped my mind too. Sure, it does happen. But none of the three that had their loans at Stoke cut short in your example were having an especially good time on their loan. Clarke was behind Sterling in the pecking order. Ostigard fell out with MON. Delap was widely considered a bit of a flop. Parent clubs are much less likely to cut a loan short if the player is playing regularly and playing well, which Cannon is. Norrington-Davies & Cundle were exactly that though. Arblaster was recalled by sheff utd, Devine was recalled from Vale and sent to Plymouth to replace Cundle. These are just off the top of my head but it definitely happens a lot more than you're making out. I really hope Cannon isn't recalled but I'm kind of bracing myself for it because in the last 7 years we've never been allowed to have nice things for very long  |
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Post by flea79 on Nov 26, 2024 16:05:35 GMT
Sure, it does happen. But none of the three that had their loans at Stoke cut short in your example were having an especially good time on their loan. Clarke was behind Sterling in the pecking order. Ostigard fell out with MON. Delap was widely considered a bit of a flop. Parent clubs are much less likely to cut a loan short if the player is playing regularly and playing well, which Cannon is. Norrington-Davies & Cundle were exactly that though. Arblaster was recalled by sheff utd, Devine was recalled from Vale and sent to Plymouth to replace Cundle. These are just off the top of my head but it definitely happens a lot more than you're making out. I really hope Cannon isn't recalled but I'm kind of bracing myself for it because in the last 7 years we've never been allowed to have nice things for very long i guess we would have to balance the books if we purchase him, could see a combo od Junho, Burger and Manhoef being sold too cover the cost? |
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Post by walrus on Nov 26, 2024 18:03:18 GMT
Sure, it does happen. But none of the three that had their loans at Stoke cut short in your example were having an especially good time on their loan. Clarke was behind Sterling in the pecking order. Ostigard fell out with MON. Delap was widely considered a bit of a flop. Parent clubs are much less likely to cut a loan short if the player is playing regularly and playing well, which Cannon is. Norrington-Davies & Cundle were exactly that though. Arblaster was recalled by sheff utd, Devine was recalled from Vale and sent to Plymouth to replace Cundle. These are just off the top of my head but it definitely happens a lot more than you're making out. I really hope Cannon isn't recalled but I'm kind of bracing myself for it because in the last 7 years we've never been allowed to have nice things for very long Fair points. I hope we get to see a decent run of him with a fit Gallagher at some point. |
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Post by pistol on Nov 26, 2024 21:25:56 GMT
I expect the Hull manager will get the boot tonight. Wouldn’t surprise me to see Rooney go as well.
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Post by thornestein on Nov 26, 2024 21:46:32 GMT
Norrington-Davies & Cundle were exactly that though. Arblaster was recalled by sheff utd, Devine was recalled from Vale and sent to Plymouth to replace Cundle. These are just off the top of my head but it definitely happens a lot more than you're making out. I really hope Cannon isn't recalled but I'm kind of bracing myself for it because in the last 7 years we've never been allowed to have nice things for very long Fair points. I hope we get to see a decent run of him with a fit Gallagher at some point. problem with playing two up top it’s leaves us short in midfield , and that’s where we’re poor at the moment |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 27, 2024 11:37:42 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 27, 2024 11:40:37 GMT
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