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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 29, 2021 7:23:51 GMT
I think we'll keep him in wraps till after the break. The expectation on him is huge and I'm not sure he's shown he's ready to bear that burden yet. I think an away match will be the first time he's involved. Too much adreneline could risk further injury. We know MON will be itching to get him back so if he's not involved it will be because he's not ready. In my opinion Bojan rushing back too quickly was his undoing.
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Post by ashleyscfc on Sept 29, 2021 8:35:14 GMT
Another couple of U23 games and save him for after the international break, we're not exactly on a downward slide at the moment.
We absolutely need him back but we need him back for the full season, not just until January or he gets another injury.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Sept 29, 2021 10:21:29 GMT
I think we'll keep him in wraps till after the break. The expectation on him is huge and I'm not sure he's shown he's ready to bear that burden yet. I think an away match will be the first time he's involved. Too much adreneline could risk further injury. We know MON will be itching to get him back so if he's not involved it will be because he's not ready. In my opinion Bojan rushing back too quickly was his undoing. Not the Bojan came back too soon line again.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 29, 2021 10:39:06 GMT
Would having him on the bench really do that much harm?
You don't have to use him. Will one more training game actually make that much of a difference?
We are so impotent up front. If Sima or Fletcher are back then that does limit the need but we need some spark from the front line.
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Post by apb1 on Sept 29, 2021 10:41:25 GMT
Wonder if we’ll have a behind closed doors match to get him a bit sharper?
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 29, 2021 10:41:46 GMT
I think we'll keep him in wraps till after the break. The expectation on him is huge and I'm not sure he's shown he's ready to bear that burden yet. I think an away match will be the first time he's involved. Too much adreneline could risk further injury. We know MON will be itching to get him back so if he's not involved it will be because he's not ready. In my opinion Bojan rushing back too quickly was his undoing. Not the Bojan came back too soon line again. Just my opinion. I remember Shearer saying after Bojan's first game back that for the first few matches adrenalin would carry him through t'd only be later that we'd find out how he'd been affected and that's exactly what happened. It's a mental burden to overcome an injury and when you've got expectation on your shoulders as well it's difficult. Tyrese needs a very low key reintroduction but the medical team which seems far more proactive than in Bojan's day will have all the information.
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Post by werrington on Sept 29, 2021 11:01:13 GMT
Not the Bojan came back too soon line again. Just my opinion. I remember Shearer saying after Bojan's first game back that for the first few matches adrenalin would carry him through t'd only be later that we'd find out how he'd been affected and that's exactly what happened. It's a mental burden to overcome an injury and when you've got expectation on your shoulders as well it's difficult. Tyrese needs a very low key reintroduction but the medical team which seems far more proactive than in Bojan's day will have all the information. Not aimed directly at you mate but what is this rewriting of history in regards Bojan coming back from injury? Have a look at the scores and Stoke performances long long after he came back from injury It’s utterly bizarre that this myth ever got off the ground let alone continue
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Post by a on Sept 29, 2021 11:03:10 GMT
Would having him on the bench really do that much harm? You don't have to use him. Will one more training game actually make that much of a difference? We are so impotent up front. If Sima or Fletcher are back then that does limit the need but we need some spark from the front line. Why have him take a space up if we’re not using him? Makes zero sense
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Post by werrington on Sept 29, 2021 11:05:56 GMT
I think we'll keep him in wraps till after the break. The expectation on him is huge and I'm not sure he's shown he's ready to bear that burden yet. I think an away match will be the first time he's involved. Too much adreneline could risk further injury. We know MON will be itching to get him back so if he's not involved it will be because he's not ready. In my opinion Bojan rushing back too quickly was his undoing. Not the Bojan came back too soon line again. It’s utterly bizarre
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Post by innercitysumo on Sept 29, 2021 11:56:37 GMT
Not the Bojan came back too soon line again. It’s utterly bizarre The best football I’ve ever seen a stoke team play was after Bojan came back from his injury
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Post by 16quidachuck on Sept 29, 2021 12:06:08 GMT
The best football I’ve ever seen a stoke team play was after Bojan came back from his injury Then Hughes Shit himself and scrapped the BMX front three.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 29, 2021 12:11:43 GMT
Would having him on the bench really do that much harm? You don't have to use him. Will one more training game actually make that much of a difference? We are so impotent up front. If Sima or Fletcher are back then that does limit the need but we need some spark from the front line. Why have him take a space up if we’re not using him? Makes zero sense Because we might need to use him? If you're winning 2-0 then there's no need. You're 1-0 down and there's 15 minutes left then who do you want coming on? Surridge or Campbell, there's only one winner.
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Post by mr on Sept 29, 2021 12:17:04 GMT
Why have him take a space up if we’re not using him? Makes zero sense Because we might need to use him? If you're winning 2-0 then there's no need. You're 1-0 down and there's 15 minutes left then who do you want coming on? Surridge or Campbell, there's only one winner. A 100% fit Surridge or 20% fit Campbell? Hmm
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 29, 2021 12:19:10 GMT
Because we might need to use him? If you're winning 2-0 then there's no need. You're 1-0 down and there's 15 minutes left then who do you want coming on? Surridge or Campbell, there's only one winner. A 100% fit Surridge or 20% fit Campbell? Hmm 20% He's played 60, 80 and 70 minutes in the u23's. Lets not be dramatic!
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Post by mr on Sept 29, 2021 12:28:52 GMT
I thought I could load the question like you did. All of us would take a 100% fit Campbell over a 100% fit Surridge.
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Post by a on Sept 29, 2021 12:34:25 GMT
Why have him take a space up if we’re not using him? Makes zero sense Because we might need to use him? If you're winning 2-0 then there's no need. You're 1-0 down and there's 15 minutes left then who do you want coming on? Surridge or Campbell, there's only one winner. An unfit Campbell at the risk of aggravating and injury? If he’s on the bench he should be fit to play. Until then he should be looked after.
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Post by innercitysumo on Sept 29, 2021 12:43:15 GMT
Because we might need to use him? If you're winning 2-0 then there's no need. You're 1-0 down and there's 15 minutes left then who do you want coming on? Surridge or Campbell, there's only one winner. An unfit Campbell at the risk of aggravating and injury? If he’s on the bench he should be fit to play. Until then he should be looked after. I have to agree with Bayern here. I can’t see how coming on for the last 10 if we need a goal against West Brom is going to potentially aggravate his injury worse than playing 70 mins for the u23’s
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Post by jezzascfc on Sept 29, 2021 13:01:10 GMT
I thought a bench spot v WBA beckoned, but now I am not so sure. If Fletch and Sima are declared fit, we have 4 striker options - no need to risk Tye. Let him have two more weeks of good training under his belt before easing him back in.
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 29, 2021 13:07:06 GMT
Just my opinion. I remember Shearer saying after Bojan's first game back that for the first few matches adrenalin would carry him through t'd only be later that we'd find out how he'd been affected and that's exactly what happened. It's a mental burden to overcome an injury and when you've got expectation on your shoulders as well it's difficult. Tyrese needs a very low key reintroduction but the medical team which seems far more proactive than in Bojan's day will have all the information. Not aimed directly at you mate but what is this rewriting of history in regards Bojan coming back from injury? Have a look at the scores and Stoke performances long long after he came back from injury It’s utterly bizarre that this myth ever got off the ground let alone continue Just looked it up and you're right. I didn't realise how often he played for us after his injury. Somehow I'd got it into my head that by the end of that season he'd lost his place.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 29, 2021 13:18:30 GMT
There is going to be huge expectation on the back of this young fellow when he comes back from what I'm reading. Some people seem to think we are going storm this league with him in the team.
OK...let's see!
If he's that good he wont be here for very long I fear.
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Post by a on Sept 29, 2021 14:56:34 GMT
An unfit Campbell at the risk of aggravating and injury? If he’s on the bench he should be fit to play. Until then he should be looked after. I have to agree with Bayern here. I can’t see how coming on for the last 10 if we need a goal against West Brom is going to potentially aggravate his injury worse than playing 70 mins for the u23’s He was saying bench him even if we don’t play him. You don’t take up space on the bench with players who aren’t ready. If he is then bang him on but not before.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2021 15:18:51 GMT
I have to agree with Bayern here. I can’t see how coming on for the last 10 if we need a goal against West Brom is going to potentially aggravate his injury worse than playing 70 mins for the u23’s He was saying bench him even if we don’t play him. You don’t take up space on the bench with players who aren’t ready. If he is then bang him on but not before. Tom Ince has basically sat there to make up the numbers recently! Might as well be Campbell instead.
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Post by theonlooker on Sept 29, 2021 15:27:48 GMT
The club will, correctly, be guided by the science. When he's ready he will be back in and around the squad. Until then, it will be more U23 games.
It certainly won't be done off the back of a fag packet with the notion of "What harm can it do?"
As for when he is back, we just need to support him through the thick and thin times, of which he will no doubt go through.
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Post by a on Sept 29, 2021 15:35:27 GMT
He was saying bench him even if we don’t play him. You don’t take up space on the bench with players who aren’t ready. If he is then bang him on but not before. Tom Ince has basically sat there to make up the numbers recently! Might as well be Campbell instead. That’s a depressing thought. What a wasted talent
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Post by a on Sept 29, 2021 15:45:57 GMT
The club will, correctly, be guided by the science. When he's ready he will be back in and around the squad. Until then, it will be more U23 games. It certainly won't be done off the back of a fag packet with the notion of "What harm can it do?" As for when he is back, we just need to support him through the thick and thin times, of which he will no doubt go through. Hopefully he is cut some slack
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Post by theonlooker on Sept 29, 2021 15:49:02 GMT
The club will, correctly, be guided by the science. When he's ready he will be back in and around the squad. Until then, it will be more U23 games. It certainly won't be done off the back of a fag packet with the notion of "What harm can it do?" As for when he is back, we just need to support him through the thick and thin times, of which he will no doubt go through. Hopefully he is cut some slack Yes because he'll need it. He's still a young lad really and is getting back after a major injury that would test the most experienced of players.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 29, 2021 17:51:18 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 29, 2021 18:09:47 GMT
The club will, correctly, be guided by the science. When he's ready he will be back in and around the squad. Until then, it will be more U23 games. It certainly won't be done off the back of a fag packet with the notion of "What harm can it do?" As for when he is back, we just need to support him through the thick and thin times, of which he will no doubt go through. Hopefully he’s not being guided by SAGE!
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Post by leicspotter on Sept 29, 2021 18:20:50 GMT
The club will, correctly, be guided by the science. When he's ready he will be back in and around the squad. Until then, it will be more U23 games. It certainly won't be done off the back of a fag packet with the notion of "What harm can it do?" As for when he is back, we just need to support him through the thick and thin times, of which he will no doubt go through. Hopefully he’s not being guided by SAGE! I rather think that MoN knows his onions
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Sept 29, 2021 18:25:53 GMT
The best football I’ve ever seen a stoke team play was after Bojan came back from his injury Then Hughes Shit himself and scrapped the BMX front three. Bojan signed a new contract after his injury and 99% of this board were delighted. The Shawcross injury in Leicester's title-winning season turned out to be the downfall of Bojan in Hughes' plans. Maybe that and the signing of Imbula shortly after. The 'Bojan wasn't as effective after his injury' myth is odder than the Paul McCartney is dead one. Not aimed directly at you mate but what is this rewriting of history in regards Bojan coming back from injury? Have a look at the scores and Stoke performances long long after he came back from injury It’s utterly bizarre that this myth ever got off the ground let alone continue Just looked it up and you're right. I didn't realise how often he played for us after his injury. Somehow I'd got it into my head that by the end of that season he'd lost his place. That's what these myths when they're constantly repeated can do. I'm glad someone changed their mind on this at last! If often feels like
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