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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Dec 16, 2021 14:39:09 GMT
Very fair comments from Toto Wolff on the situation here: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59686315I'm not surprised Hamilton is disillusioned and hopefully he returns next season (obviously I don't know him, but I think he will).
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Dec 16, 2021 15:35:11 GMT
Very fair comments from Toto Wolff on the situation here: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59686315I'm not surprised Hamilton is disillusioned and hopefully he returns next season (obviously I don't know him, but I think he will). I'm disappointed by them, Wolff and Hamilton have missed an opportunity to own the high ground. Not going to the Gala is churlish and will do nothing heal the rift between Mercedes and Red Bull. Wolff's positive comments about Max and RB are effectively hollow by not attending as it's as much as a snub to to Max and RB as it is to the FIA.
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Dec 16, 2021 15:54:35 GMT
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Dec 16, 2021 15:54:35 GMT
Not appealing is the right thing to do.
And I can totally understand them not wanting to attend any kind of celebration which would basically feel like your rival parading in front of your face the woman you were about to marry as their new bride!
It probably does look a bit churlish, but I can't really imagine anything less enjoyable than the prospect of going to that if you were Mercedes.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Dec 16, 2021 18:11:13 GMT
As we have learned this week, Merc could only appeal to the FIA, and turkeys don't vote for Christmas. The only chance of some form of "justice" would have been through the Court of Arbitration in Sport (CAS), and F1 teams are contractually barred from doing so. Telling in itself. Whilst I agree the race result was never going to be overturned it should be taken as far possible just to make an example of the governing body.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 17, 2021 15:01:54 GMT
I was chatting with my stepson earlier who is massively keen on F1. He always had been keen, but became keener than ever when he had an apartment in Singapore for a few years overlooking the GP. He is now retired in Harrogate. He and his son get together on a GP afternoon to watch the race. They are impartial and have been enthralled with the competition this season. But what happened at the end of Sunday's race has totally disgusted them. They still can't believe they watched what happened.. For them is has ruined this year's competition. They were not particularly favouring either driver, but if pushed would back the Brit. They had not objection to Verstappen winning, but not the way he has, which has totally devalued the sport. I suspect those opinions are shared by most people on here, with the exception perhaps of the Hamilton hating oddballs, including those who have a passing interest in F1, like me. It's been an interesting head to head shoot out between the top two drivers for a change. I bet most peop!e, if pushed, would have plumped for Lewis as the Brit at the finale, but if Max had driven away from LH like Hamilton did to Max, i would guess everyone would have said fair enough and congratulated him on his win. As it is, it just looks farcical at best, corrupt at worst and has ruined the title winning aspect for both drivers, whichever one eventually is officially awarded it. A sad ending all round. I'm not a Hamilton fan and was happy that someone else won the title but I think it was a pretty shit way to end it whoever ended up winning it. I don't think it was corrupt though, more misguided than anything. Most people if pushed would have been stupid to go for anyone but Hamilton, there isn't a car that gets near their. Hamilton deserves his knighthood but whoever designed their car should be next in line behind him.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Dec 17, 2021 18:55:14 GMT
"Lewis Hamilton may be punished for not attending awards ceremony, says new FIA president" www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59705074"If there is any breach, there is no forgiveness in this," Ben Sulayem said.
Asked to clarify whether he was saying Hamilton would be penalised for not attending the gala, he said: "Forgiveness is always there. But rules are rules."Does he not realise the irony in what he's said there? Also, I hope I'm wrong, but as he's from the United Arab Emirates, he's not going to like Hamilton and Vettel for being outspoken about human rights issues in the surrounding region? It hardly seems like a progressive appointment. But as I said, I hope I'm wrong, as I hadn't heard of the guy before. And Fabiana Ecclestone, Bernie's wife, is the new vice president! So Bernie "I don't want Hamilton to win another title" Ecclestone maybe still has an even bigger finger in the pie than I thought!
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Post by shakermaker on Dec 17, 2021 19:49:14 GMT
"Lewis Hamilton may be punished for not attending awards ceremony, says new FIA president" www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59705074"If there is any breach, there is no forgiveness in this," Ben Sulayem said.
Asked to clarify whether he was saying Hamilton would be penalised for not attending the gala, he said: "Forgiveness is always there. But rules are rules."Does he not realise the irony in what he's said there? Also, I hope I'm wrong, but as he's from the United Arab Emirates, he's not going to like Hamilton and Vettel for being outspoken about human rights issues in the surrounding region? It hardly seems like a progressive appointment. But as I said, I hope I'm wrong, as I hadn't heard of the guy before. And Fabiana Ecclestone, Bernie's wife, is the new vice president! So Bernie "I don't want Hamilton to win another title" Ecclestone maybe still has an even bigger finger in the pie than I thought! This president is fairly new to the role, so hopefully someone’s had a word on his ear and firstly reminded him the “rules are rules” quote is a very untimely choice of words given the circumstances, and that they would be wise to let the non-attendance go on this occasion.
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Post by questionable on Dec 17, 2021 20:49:30 GMT
If rules were rules he’d have been there collecting his Driver Championship, oh hang on, rules aren’t rules are they, corrupt as F.... tossers.
Google Masi, doesn’t even say what he earns.
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Post by franklin on Dec 17, 2021 20:54:47 GMT
"Lewis Hamilton may be punished for not attending awards ceremony, says new FIA president" www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59705074"If there is any breach, there is no forgiveness in this," Ben Sulayem said.
Asked to clarify whether he was saying Hamilton would be penalised for not attending the gala, he said: "Forgiveness is always there. But rules are rules."Does he not realise the irony in what he's said there? Also, I hope I'm wrong, but as he's from the United Arab Emirates, he's not going to like Hamilton and Vettel for being outspoken about human rights issues in the surrounding region? It hardly seems like a progressive appointment. But as I said, I hope I'm wrong, as I hadn't heard of the guy before. And Fabiana Ecclestone, Bernie's wife, is the new vice president! So Bernie "I don't want Hamilton to win another title" Ecclestone maybe still has an even bigger finger in the pie than I thought! If I was Toto I'd be straight on the phone and ask him if rules were rules last week.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Dec 17, 2021 21:27:31 GMT
"Lewis Hamilton may be punished for not attending awards ceremony, says new FIA president" www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59705074"If there is any breach, there is no forgiveness in this," Ben Sulayem said.
Asked to clarify whether he was saying Hamilton would be penalised for not attending the gala, he said: "Forgiveness is always there. But rules are rules."Does he not realise the irony in what he's said there? Also, I hope I'm wrong, but as he's from the United Arab Emirates, he's not going to like Hamilton and Vettel for being outspoken about human rights issues in the surrounding region? It hardly seems like a progressive appointment. But as I said, I hope I'm wrong, as I hadn't heard of the guy before. And Fabiana Ecclestone, Bernie's wife, is the new vice president! So Bernie "I don't want Hamilton to win another title" Ecclestone maybe still has an even bigger finger in the pie than I thought! This president is fairly new to the role, so hopefully someone’s had a word on his ear and firstly reminded him the “rules are rules” quote is a very untimely choice of words given the circumstances, and that they would be wise to let the non-attendance go on this occasion. Hopefully, but he might feel the need to stamp his authority in this new era of F1, especially given the inconsistency throughout the season that both Mercedes and Red Bull have commented on.
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Dec 17, 2021 21:54:23 GMT
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Post by questionable on Dec 17, 2021 21:54:23 GMT
Stamping authority doesn’t mean you can make shit up as you go along, how can you run a sport without a clear documented procedure that’s adhered to.
Masi should have been sacked hours after, massive, massive rumours that Mercedes are pulling out of F1 and I for one wouldn’t blame them, Germans are notoriously stubborn.
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Dec 18, 2021 11:17:29 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Dec 18, 2021 11:17:29 GMT
And you wonder why I wanted to see Merc sue the fuck of these cunts?
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Dec 21, 2021 11:53:43 GMT
I see that Bernie's wife, Fabiana Ecclestone has just become the FIA Vice President for South America. I'm sure she fully deserves the position after once holding a marketing position for the Brazilian GP (where she met and fell in love with the then octogenarian billionaire).
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Post by flea79 on Dec 23, 2021 10:10:13 GMT
F1 tweet of the year!
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Dec 24, 2021 13:09:26 GMT
He's brilliant is Gunther. Been watching the series on netflix. He does not fok smash my door... Rockstars or wankers. Classics.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 15, 2022 16:26:36 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/60007031Masi sacked, Hamilton returns, that's probably about the size of it. No doubt Masi will get a nice pay off for his monumental fuck up/stitch up/doing what he was told to do, whichever way you want to call it...
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Feb 17, 2022 19:21:16 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 17, 2022 19:28:39 GMT
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Feb 17, 2022 22:44:03 GMT
I've been watching the car/livery reveals and I'm surprised at how different the aero solutions are this year. There were complaints by people like Newey that the cars lacked scope for innovation, every car has done something different, some radically such as the side pod design on the Ferrari. Although Red Bull launched there car last week, it was a pure marketing exercise as the car on show was a generic mock up, so we still have to wait to see what they have been up to. It's Mercedes tomorrow and hopefully we will see something close to the car that will start the season.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Feb 18, 2022 10:00:13 GMT
The new Merc is out and it's quite radically different the others in parts. There are so many different designs this year, it's going to be fascinating to see who has got it right, or whether there are several different but good aerodynamic solutions out there.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 18, 2022 11:06:36 GMT
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 18, 2022 12:22:25 GMT
Useless mate. Imagine taking that down to the shops and trying to get it in the multi storey Yeah looks good to be fair
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Post by flea79 on Feb 18, 2022 13:32:11 GMT
i have to say the new regulations have made the cars very pretty, they look fast even sat still!
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Post by GeneralFaye on Feb 18, 2022 14:12:47 GMT
I think if Lewis gets the title back this season he'll retire on 8. Either way, I'm sure it'll be a fascinating season again however it ends.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 18, 2022 14:38:17 GMT
I think if Lewis gets the title back this season he'll retire on 8. Either way, I'm sure it'll be a fascinating season again however it ends. The noises coming out so far are that Red Bull will struggle to produce as competitive a car as they had last year. Which is a shame! Hamilton at 11/10 and Verstappen 9/4 appear to reflect that. I hope Hamilton does win an 8th title then calls it a day and then Russell puts a giant spanner in Horner's and Verstappen's quest for domination!
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Feb 18, 2022 15:14:46 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on Feb 18, 2022 15:14:46 GMT
I think if Lewis gets the title back this season he'll retire on 8. Either way, I'm sure it'll be a fascinating season again however it ends. The noises coming out so far are that Red Bull will struggle to produce as competitive a car as they had last year. Which is a shame! Hamilton at 11/10 and Verstappen 9/4 appear to reflect that. I hope Hamilton does win an 8th title then calls it a day and then Russell puts a giant spanner in Horner's and Verstappen's quest for domination! Lewis sounds pretty bullish so I assume that's the reason you've highlighted. Be interesting to see if Ferrari can finally get back in amongst it, they've got the drivers to challenge I'd say.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Feb 18, 2022 15:58:29 GMT
The noises coming out so far are that Red Bull will struggle to produce as competitive a car as they had last year. Which is a shame! Hamilton at 11/10 and Verstappen 9/4 appear to reflect that. I hope Hamilton does win an 8th title then calls it a day and then Russell puts a giant spanner in Horner's and Verstappen's quest for domination! Lewis sounds pretty bullish so I assume that's the reason you've highlighted. Be interesting to see if Ferrari can finally get back in amongst it, they've got the drivers to challenge I'd say. Ferrari's car is pretty unique, I hope they've got it right. I've love to see a three way constructor battle this year.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 18, 2022 17:14:30 GMT
Lewis sounds pretty bullish so I assume that's the reason you've highlighted. Be interesting to see if Ferrari can finally get back in amongst it, they've got the drivers to challenge I'd say. Ferrari's car is pretty unique, I hope they've got it right. I've love to see a three way constructor battle this year. And a three-way driver's battle would be good too.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Feb 18, 2022 17:42:21 GMT
Ferrari's car is pretty unique, I hope they've got it right. I've love to see a three way constructor battle this year. And a three-way driver's battle would be good too. There's the potential for a five way battle! (five plus Perez)!
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Post by xchpotter on Feb 18, 2022 18:06:58 GMT
Obvious this would be the outcome from the moment the race ended. He was useless and has correctly lost his job, but I can’t help feeling he’s the convenient scapegoat that was used to allow Verstappen to win the race he should not have won. The result should have been overturned at the time. I don’t have much time for Hamilton, but I do believe strongly in fair play and he was shafted. If I was him I’d race this season, hopefully win the Championship and then make a public spectacle of putting the trophy in a bin in front of the worlds media.
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