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Post by flea79 on Jul 21, 2024 19:26:06 GMT
I would choose Brock lesnar! Who would argue with Brock! He’s just not talky enough😉 Ultimate Warrior would have been good, god rest his blessed soul Another thread successfully diverted! All hail flea and the badger!
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jul 21, 2024 19:27:37 GMT
There are now calls for him to resign the presidency and I have to say I agree, if he isn’t fit too run he isn’t fit too be president right now, He's now entered the lame duck stage of Presidency. They US can usually deal with around 12 months of this (at the end of a two-termer) so 4 months 'stewarding' will cause no major dramas*. *famous last words.
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Post by starkiller on Jul 21, 2024 19:33:47 GMT
There are now calls for him to resign the presidency and I have to say I agree, if he isn’t fit too run he isn’t fit too be president right now, He's now entered the lame duck stage of Presidency. They US can usually deal with around 12 months of this (at the end of a two-termer) so 4 months 'stewarding' will cause no major dramas*. *famous last words. He's been doing nothing for four years unless you actually think he was running the show. Sign stuff, and read stuff badly. That's all he did. Both prepared for him.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jul 21, 2024 19:36:51 GMT
He's now entered the lame duck stage of Presidency. They US can usually deal with around 12 months of this (at the end of a two-termer) so 4 months 'stewarding' will cause no major dramas*. *famous last words. He's been doing nothing for four years unless you actually think he was running the show. Sign stuff, and read stuff. Badly. That's all he did. If all he did was read stuff it will have been an improvement of the previous incumbent 👍 Back to 5G 'scamdemic' death rays for you.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 21, 2024 19:37:53 GMT
He's now entered the lame duck stage of Presidency. They US can usually deal with around 12 months of this (at the end of a two-termer) so 4 months 'stewarding' will cause no major dramas*. *famous last words. He's been doing nothing for four years unless you actually think he was running the show. Sign stuff, and read stuff badly. That's all he did. Both prepared for him. That’s right. It’s a sorry state in the US with him and Trump but at least Trump can actually think for himself for better or for worse
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 21, 2024 19:38:34 GMT
Kamala Harris can’t beat trump. If she picks a senior running mate she’s in the shadow. I suspect a heavyweight democrat to come through
Agreed.
From earlier in the month ...
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Post by foster on Jul 21, 2024 19:39:03 GMT
Biden out... Good.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 21, 2024 19:39:52 GMT
Trump in thankfully, nobody wants a trump to come out, not in public anyway
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2024 19:40:32 GMT
Kamala Harris can’t beat trump. If she picks a senior running mate she’s in the shadow. I suspect a heavyweight democrat to come through
Agreed.
From earlier in the month ...
Such nonsense.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 21, 2024 19:42:17 GMT
Agreed.
From earlier in the month ...
Such nonsense.
What's nonsense, it's the results of an IPSOS poll?
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Post by mtrstudent on Jul 21, 2024 19:47:46 GMT
There are now calls for him to resign the presidency and I have to say I agree, if he isn’t fit too run he isn’t fit too be president right now, I don't get that tbh. You can be fit for 6 months but not fit for 4.5 years, can't you? It's like would you give Arnie a year contract versus would you sign him up for 5?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 21, 2024 19:54:22 GMT
There are now calls for him to resign the presidency and I have to say I agree, if he isn’t fit too run he isn’t fit too be president right now, I don't get that tbh. You can be fit for 6 months but not fit for 4.5 years, can't you? It's like would you give Arnie a year contract versus would you sign him up for 5?
I think that's a fair comment but surely the question is, will he be fit for the next 6 months?
I'd suggest that he's hasn't been fit for the last 6 months and it is that, that has ultimately meant he has had to withdraw now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2024 20:10:03 GMT
What's nonsense, it's the results of an IPSOS poll?
It’s a fairytale. She’s not interested, so it makes no difference if people would vote for her or not.
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Post by mtrstudent on Jul 21, 2024 20:14:51 GMT
I don't get that tbh. You can be fit for 6 months but not fit for 4.5 years, can't you? It's like would you give Arnie a year contract versus would you sign him up for 5? I think that's a fair comment but surely the question is, will he be fit for the next 6 months? I'd suggest that he's hasn't been fit for the last 6 months and it is that, that has ultimately meant he has had to withdraw now.
It's totally possible. Hard to tell over all the media screaming in every direction. It was pretty clear he was gonna be a weak candidate even after he won 2020. What was going through his head.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 21, 2024 20:17:02 GMT
What's nonsense, it's the results of an IPSOS poll?
It’s a fairytale. She’s not interested, so it makes no difference if people would vote for her or not. I was agreeing with Salop, who said that Harris couldn't beat Trump, which is what the poll reflected. Only you have mentioned Obama.
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Post by lordb on Jul 21, 2024 20:25:25 GMT
He's now entered the lame duck stage of Presidency. They US can usually deal with around 12 months of this (at the end of a two-termer) so 4 months 'stewarding' will cause no major dramas*. *famous last words. He's been doing nothing for four years unless you actually think he was running the show. Sign stuff, and read stuff badly. That's all he did. Both prepared for him. Like most presidents
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Post by mtrstudent on Jul 21, 2024 20:31:21 GMT
He's been doing nothing for four years unless you actually think he was running the show. Sign stuff, and read stuff badly. That's all he did. Both prepared for him. Like most presidents My understanding is it's a full administration where the president pushes things where he can, but doesn't control everything. And Biden has done and achieved a lot to help normal folk. While Trump did a lot to fuck the non-rich. He failed in his attempts to strip health insurance coverage from 17 million lower-income people though, so he could have hurt a lot more people a lot more than he managed to. A lot of those people who would have been left to die if it were up to Trump seem to be lining up to vote for him again. They must be really passionate about sacrificing their own health and families to achieve Trump's goals.
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Post by foster on Jul 21, 2024 20:33:37 GMT
We all know Polls can't be trusted.
Brexit and the last election when you look at how messed up the seat allocation was.
I fancy Harris and her chances.
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Post by mtrstudent on Jul 21, 2024 20:44:55 GMT
We all know Polls can't be trusted. Brexit and the last election when you look at how messed up the seat allocation was. I fancy Harris and her chances. I think polls have always only been accurate to a certain level. And right now things are in the margin of error. Not to mention things can swing massively in a single week, never mind months! Can Harris win over voters that matter? She hasn't shown anything yet that makes me think she's brimming with charisma, and she's got other issues too. But she's gotta be more energetic at running a campaign than Joe, right?
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Post by shakermaker on Jul 21, 2024 20:50:37 GMT
I'm always surprised when sense prevails, especially in American politics No way his family should have let it go this far either I think his wife has been very smart. I reckon the Bidens held out for a long time to make sure he got the right pay day, and hopefully for him and his son, reassurances of non-prosecution plus the biggest political deal of all time on pay and benefits. With a great deal secured, they will just stop medicating him now too and he can veg away.
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Post by mtrstudent on Jul 21, 2024 20:56:41 GMT
No way his family should have let it go this far either I think his wife has been very smart. I reckon the Bidens held out for a long time to make sure he got the right pay day, and hopefully for him and his son, reassurances of non-prosecution plus the biggest political deal of all time on pay and benefits. With a great deal secured, they will just stop medicating him now too and he can veg away. Hunter got convicted though. Because Biden didn't act like his family should be above the law, and he let the prosecution go ahead, even though the charges were supposedly trumped up (heh) compared with what a normal person would get for those infractions. It was satisfying to see the prosecutors push through with it, politically powerful families shouldn't be above the law. At least, that's the Biden/Democrat position, the Trump position is that the law shouldn't apply to them.
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Post by mtrstudent on Jul 21, 2024 21:03:44 GMT
Also a thing to remember - the electoral college favours Trump so a Democrat needs to win the popular vote by something like 3% or more to stand a good chance.
And in a lot of close states, Republicans control the voting rules and suppress the votes of "undesirable" groups like younger people, non-white people etc. So even if Democrats would win by 5-6% in a totally free and fair election, the Republican voter suppression could push the margin down to the point where they win anyway.
So if it's Harris, she needs to work out a way to get to a +6% margin in the usual reported polls to have a good shot.
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Post by starkiller on Jul 21, 2024 21:13:23 GMT
He's been doing nothing for four years unless you actually think he was running the show. Sign stuff, and read stuff. Badly. That's all he did. If all he did was read stuff it will have been an improvement of the previous incumbent 👍 Back to 5G 'scamdemic' death rays for you. You sign off never came from me, and does you no favours.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 21, 2024 21:33:49 GMT
Well this has just become interesting, considering that Soros and the Clinton's already have ...
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Post by Davef on Jul 21, 2024 21:49:36 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jul 21, 2024 21:51:44 GMT
My understanding is it's a full administration where the president pushes things where he can, but doesn't control everything. And Biden has done and achieved a lot to help normal folk. While Trump did a lot to fuck the non-rich. He failed in his attempts to strip health insurance coverage from 17 million lower-income people though, so he could have hurt a lot more people a lot more than he managed to. A lot of those people who would have been left to die if it were up to Trump seem to be lining up to vote for him again. They must be really passionate about sacrificing their own health and families to achieve Trump's goals. It's clear that the Trump presidency was chaos
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Jul 21, 2024 21:53:51 GMT
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Post by mtrstudent on Jul 21, 2024 21:57:33 GMT
My understanding is it's a full administration where the president pushes things where he can, but doesn't control everything. And Biden has done and achieved a lot to help normal folk. While Trump did a lot to fuck the non-rich. He failed in his attempts to strip health insurance coverage from 17 million lower-income people though, so he could have hurt a lot more people a lot more than he managed to. A lot of those people who would have been left to die if it were up to Trump seem to be lining up to vote for him again. They must be really passionate about sacrificing their own health and families to achieve Trump's goals. It's clear that the Trump presidency was chaos A big "problem" Trump had was that people like Pence weren't willing to pull the trigger on ending American democracy and installing him as a dictator. This time round he'll be more prepared and will have purged pro-democracy people. It'll be a lot more effective. January 6th was the beer hall putsch, this time round they'll be better organised and more powerful if they're voted in.
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Post by lordb on Jul 21, 2024 22:00:20 GMT
It's clear that the Trump presidency was chaos A big "problem" Trump had was that people like Pence weren't willing to pull the trigger on ending American democracy and installing him as a dictator. This time round he'll be more prepared and will have purged pro-democracy people. It'll be a lot more effective. January 6th was the beer hall putsch, this time round they'll be better organised and more powerful if they're voted in. Maybe Would expect more chaos I think
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Post by musik on Jul 21, 2024 22:07:54 GMT
It didn't take long before Trump forgot all about the friendlier attitude he talked about after the shooting, and got nasty on X.
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