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Post by greenhoff on Dec 29, 2020 22:09:15 GMT
I'm sorry pal that was absolutely shit. To be honest we've been crap most of the season Being 7th in the league after 22 games is not crap. The quality of the performances have been crap. Garbage to watch. |
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Post by shrewspotter on Dec 29, 2020 22:09:44 GMT
I genuinely think Ryan would be better up front than Vokes Hes been the least of our problems. McClean has been really poor. Thompson cant pass. Brown has not footballing intelligence what so ever. least of our problems, your having a laugh. He couldn’t score in a Soho brothel. A complete lack of goals is our biggest problem I’d say |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2020 22:09:46 GMT
Can’t help but be frustrated. An average first half, but an abysmal second half. Manager has to take most of the blame. How, just how, did Vokes start let alone stay on the full 90?! That last header summed him up. He shouldn’t play again. He was one of our best in the first half. Second half the lack of team cohesion didn't help. Still I agree he should have scored at least twice, but there simply is no alternative you could sub him with- |
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Post by jarhead on Dec 29, 2020 22:10:06 GMT
Oakley Boothe = nothing player
Ince see above
Thompson see above
McClean just awful
Smith see above
Vokes = pub player
Chester = liability
Powell = lazy arse
Apart from that we are great but still 7th in this wank league! It really does sum this shit up.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2020 22:11:10 GMT
Some of the hyperbole on here is on another level.
You'd think it was as bad as Nath Jones shyte.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 29, 2020 22:12:59 GMT
Ince having his Wimmer moment walking off there, laughing and joking with former colleagues without a care in the world, waiting for his bank balance to tick up on the 31st. Saw that through the fog. Useless odious feckless dandy |
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Dec 29, 2020 22:16:23 GMT
Oakley Boothe = nothing player Ince see above Thompson see above McClean just awful Smith see above Vokes = pub player Chester = liability Powell = lazy arse Apart from that we are great but still 7th in this wank league! It really does sum this shit up. The rest I'll agree with but Powell lazy? That surely is a piss take. I'll bite though anyway he doesn't stop and gets kicked the shit out of most weeks. Where anyone gets this idea that he's lazy from I'll never know. |
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Post by chiswickpotter on Dec 29, 2020 22:16:29 GMT
He needs two forwards fletcher clearly can’t be relied on and has always struggled wit fitness . O’Neil’s biggest challenge as he’s never done was always going to be recruitment so far it’s been pretty poor and now our date rests in the hands of a pretty inexperienced manager in the market and our esteemed ceo and his process . Exactly right. Lacking Fletcher and Campbell and forced to play McClean at LWB, we were bare up front. MON also clearly keen to get Allen, Clucas and Mikel match fit even though are clearly some way off. We have the quality in defence and midfield to have a strong second half of the season provided we have more mobility and creativity up front. MON is playing a long game trying to stay close and finish strong. Key now is moving on spare players like Lindsay, Batth, TOB on loan, Vokes or Gregory and Ince, a goalie plus Wimmer and Bauer to allow us to sign 2 forwards and one or two full backs. |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 29, 2020 22:18:09 GMT
Some of the hyperbole on here is on another level. You'd think it was as bad as Nath Jones shyte. Not sure it is. Yes he’s done a tremendous job saving us last year and has huge credit in the bank But When was the last time we played decent enjoyable to watch football |
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Post by harryh157 on Dec 29, 2020 22:18:36 GMT
Good call we were doing so much better before he turned up 🤣 Great response, well thought out. If only I was on about his 12 months here but guess what... Im on about his last 7 hand (clearly says that in my post) and its been fucking abysmal... Use your wonderful insight to prove otherwise Not going to get in to a debate...can't be arsed. Look at our injury list. MoN has kept us in contention up to Jan when we are getting a few back and can buy a striker....take a bow. Its not been pretty but we are still in with a sniff. I'm sure had you been the manager we would be 100 points clear with a plus 1000 gd |
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Post by jarhead on Dec 29, 2020 22:18:47 GMT
Oakley Boothe = nothing player Ince see above Thompson see above McClean just awful Smith see above Vokes = pub player Chester = liability Powell = lazy arse Apart from that we are great but still 7th in this wank league! It really does sum this shit up. The rest I'll agree with but Powell lazy? That surely is a piss take. I'll bite though anyway he doesn't stop and gets kicked the shit out of most weeks. Where anyway gets this idea that he's lazy from I'll never know. He’s lazy / casual on the ball and to powder puff try’s thing that are never on. Ridiculous tonight |
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Post by Han Solo on Dec 29, 2020 22:19:38 GMT
Oakley Boothe = nothing player Ince see above Thompson see above McClean just awful Smith see above Vokes = pub player Chester = liability Powell = lazy arse Apart from that we are great but still 7th in this wank league! It really does sum this shit up. We are lacking quality all over the pitch. We’re a very 50/50 side where they’re either very good or awful. In respect to the above players Oakley Booth - too lightweight don’t know what he offers. Ince - gutless Thompson - average should be nowhere near the first 11. Cousins is far better. McClean - doesn’t look fit. Take his energy away and he’s half the player. Smith - poor today. Collins is a better RB. Vokes - lazy and bar the first 20 mins woeful. Chester - not one of his better games but has been very good recently. Powell - he’s not lazy he won a lot of balls when In his own half. One of our best players. He needs better players around him. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 29, 2020 22:22:44 GMT
He needs two forwards fletcher clearly can’t be relied on and has always struggled wit fitness . O’Neil’s biggest challenge as he’s never done was always going to be recruitment so far it’s been pretty poor and now our date rests in the hands of a pretty inexperienced manager in the market and our esteemed ceo and his process . Exactly right. Lacking Fletcher and Campbell and forced to play McClean at LWB, we were bare up front. MON also clearly keen to get Allen, Clucas and Mikel match fit even though are clearly some way off. We have the quality in defence and midfield to have a strong second half of the season provided we have more mobility and creativity up front. MON is playing a long game trying to stay close and finish strong. Key now is moving on spare players like Lindsay, Batth, TOB on loan, Vokes or Gregory and Ince, a goalie plus Wimmer and Bauer to allow us to sign 2 forwards and one or two full backs. Agree except i think Gregory would have improved us tonight so I think he will stay for sure |
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Dec 29, 2020 22:22:48 GMT
The rest I'll agree with but Powell lazy? That surely is a piss take. I'll bite though anyway he doesn't stop and gets kicked the shit out of most weeks. Where anyway gets this idea that he's lazy from I'll never know. He’s lazy / casual on the ball and to powder puff try’s thing that are never on. Ridiculous tonight He works harder to win the ball back than any other player we've got. Casual on the ball as in he creates space and doesn't play hoof balls. By trying things that arent on you are probably right due to the brain dead fuckers he's playing with who are nowhere near his level. |
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Post by malteser68 on Dec 29, 2020 22:25:21 GMT
Because on the whole he has given us a very strong contribution going forward, last season more than this one |
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Post by scfcwebby on Dec 29, 2020 22:28:30 GMT
Great response, well thought out. If only I was on about his 12 months here but guess what... Im on about his last 7 hand (clearly says that in my post) and its been fucking abysmal... Use your wonderful insight to prove otherwise Not going to get in to a debate...can't be arsed. Look at our injury list. MoN has kept us in contention up to Jan when we are getting a few back and can buy a striker....take a bow. Its not been pretty but we are still in with a sniff. I'm sure had you been the manager we would be 100 points clear with a plus 1000 gd So you haven't got a counter argument then, why not just say that? |
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Post by malteser68 on Dec 29, 2020 22:28:33 GMT
Oakley Boothe = nothing player Ince see above Thompson see above McClean just awful Smith see above Vokes = pub player Chester = liability Powell = lazy arse Apart from that we are great but still 7th in this wank league! It really does sum this shit up. The rest I'll agree with but Powell lazy? That surely is a piss take. I'll bite though anyway he doesn't stop and gets kicked the shit out of most weeks. Where anyway gets this idea that he's lazy from I'll never know. Completely in agreement with your comment. POWELL is by far the best player we have in this team |
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 29, 2020 22:28:47 GMT
Some of the hyperbole on here is on another level. You'd think it was as bad as Nath Jones shyte. Not sure it is. Yes he’s done a tremendous job saving us last year and has huge credit in the bank But When was the last time we played decent enjoyable to watch football 1974 |
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Post by Ex-term-oat-cake on Dec 29, 2020 22:28:55 GMT
If you look though the top 6 is slowly beginning to break away from the chasers. We could be 5 points adrift from it be the end of January We are not remotely close to being good enough to challenge for the top 6 this season, we're not anywhere near good enough with ball retention and up front. It staggers me how we've got to where we are to be honest. We'd need a Beattie and Etherington style window to stand a chance and that's not going to happen. We will be 4 points or 7 points adrift from the playoffs within a week. |
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Post by Ex-term-oat-cake on Dec 29, 2020 22:31:04 GMT
We're going to start sliding down the table soon enough. No goals in this team whatsoever right now. Yeah, 11th only 3 points behind and we play Bournemouth next. |
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Post by spoton on Dec 29, 2020 22:33:37 GMT
I'm sorry pal that was absolutely shit. To be honest we've been crap most of the season Being 7th in the league after 22 games is not crap. No you are correct, with all the hype before the season started fan's saying that now the manager as got HIS own player's in and playing the way HE wants its worse than crap being 7th we should be in the top two |
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Post by harryh157 on Dec 29, 2020 22:35:23 GMT
Not going to get in to a debate...can't be arsed. Look at our injury list. MoN has kept us in contention up to Jan when we are getting a few back and can buy a striker....take a bow. Its not been pretty but we are still in with a sniff. I'm sure had you been the manager we would be 100 points clear with a plus 1000 gd So you haven't got a counter argument then, why not just say that? A counter to what? That the manager shoots himself in the foot before a ball is kicked or that we were holding on at the end? I wasn't aware of you making a point in the original post beyond the typical Oatcake drivel of what they did was rubbish if only they listened to me because I'm the font of all football knowledge |
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Post by femark on Dec 29, 2020 22:36:04 GMT
Three chances to win the game, all fell to Vokes. He still had a better game than Brown...
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 29, 2020 22:36:11 GMT
If you look though the top 6 is slowly beginning to break away from the chasers. We could be 5 points adrift from it be the end of January We are not remotely close to being good enough to challenge for the top 6 this season, we're not anywhere near good enough with ball retention and up front. It staggers me how we've got to where we are to be honest. We'd need a Beattie and Etherington style window to stand a chance and that's not going to happen. I reckon we aren't that far away. Admittedly that's largely because it's such a poor league but still. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2020 22:36:36 GMT
Some of the hyperbole on here is on another level. You'd think it was as bad as Nath Jones shyte. Not sure it is. Yes he’s done a tremendous job saving us last year and has huge credit in the bank But When was the last time we played decent enjoyable to watch football Fuck enjoyable football. We were relegation fodder for 2 years and getting beat week in, week out. Give me a competitive team that gets results any day of the week over that shyte. Some have very short memories. |
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Post by spoton on Dec 29, 2020 22:37:08 GMT
The rest I'll agree with but Powell lazy? That surely is a piss take. I'll bite though anyway he doesn't stop and gets kicked the shit out of most weeks. Where anyway gets this idea that he's lazy from I'll never know. Completely in agreement with your comment. POWELL is by far the best player we have in this team Christ if he's our best player then god help us, he's lazy, moody, and at times couldn't give a dam, very much like Fuller without the skill |
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Post by Ex-term-oat-cake on Dec 29, 2020 22:37:22 GMT
Ince and Vokes have burned their boats with me after that. They should be out warming down practicing not leaving the pitch laughing. Surely it’s time to unload these players regardless of the FFP penalties just to get their toxic casual shoulder shrug entitled spoiled personalities out of the club.
I’d rather finish mid table and bring on some more kids who have an appetite for it than finish sixth with these leeches.
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Post by RF10 on Dec 29, 2020 22:37:38 GMT
Being 7th in the league after 22 games is not crap. No you are correct, with all the hype before the season started fan's saying that now the manager as got HIS own player's in and playing the way HE wants its worse than crap being 7th we should be in the top two Nah crap is spending 50 million on shite and finishing below mid table. Crap is bringing a load of your own players in and being in a relegation scrap It doesn't take two transfer window to sort the mess we were in. If we were as you claim we should be MON would have worked more of a miracle than he already has. |
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Post by PotterLog on Dec 29, 2020 22:41:26 GMT
If you look though the top 6 is slowly beginning to break away from the chasers. We could be 5 points adrift from it be the end of January We are not remotely close to being good enough to challenge for the top 6 this season, we're not anywhere near good enough with ball retention and up front. It staggers me how we've got to where we are to be honest. . You don’t have to be very good to make the playoffs. Shit teams make the playoffs in this division and always have. |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Dec 29, 2020 22:44:46 GMT
I honestly hated watching that second half as the inevitability was all too much but, again, some of the entitled shite being banded about is just awful.
Yes, it was bad and yes, it has been dour since Campbell got injured but we still have so much deadwood to get rid of, that still has to be part of our squad due to the lack of numbers. If we make the play offs this season it will be because of MON, not in spite of him. And despite being largely boring, we have continued to pick up points. The impatience of some supporters after what has gone before is staggering but not at all surprising.
In an ideal world we’d have two perfect players for every position but we don’t. We can still do things this season and we’ve got supporters saying his style is worse than Pulis. Stop talking bollocks.
He’s becoming a victim of his own early success. If we’d have been 14th/15th a point at home tonight would have been seen as a good thing. As it is, he’s got us up towards the play offs in short space of time and fans are angry because we aren’t playing free flowing football. Hate to imagine how angry they were last season, and the ones before that.
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