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Post by dirtclod on Jun 30, 2022 1:30:41 GMT
Yes It’s already arrived after the US Supreme Court’s ruling that the federal ban on gambling was unconstitutional and restriction of trade. I have been here 41 years and never seen horse racing on TV, except the three triple crown races. Now it’s on all the time. They are even showing the odds during live golf tournaments. Draft Kings gives odds on WWE, which I just find hilarious to be honest! LOL! Somewhere out there, people are betting on "wrasslin!"
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Post by fca47 on Jun 30, 2022 5:57:40 GMT
Only a matter of time before gambling is regulated again. Got to hope we get back to the money league before the taps are turned off! What you talking about? The gambling industry is one of the most regulated in the world. Have you ever heard of the gambling commission? They are constantly monitored by an organisation full of ex-coppers.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jun 30, 2022 6:27:20 GMT
While I appreciate bet365’s financial clout that underpins the club, I have always been slightly uncomfortable with it, and especially have always disliked the renaming of the stadium. I know it’s all money these days, but couldn’t a more geographically or culturally referenced, more permanent, name for the stadium have been used, like The Potteries Stadium, or The Six Towns Stadium, or something? And what was wrong with Cristal Tiles anyway? In a city such as ours, the risk of calling the Bet365 stadium Crystal anything brings its own dangers.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jun 30, 2022 9:49:18 GMT
I don't know how banning shirt sponsorship would make a difference? If someone is going to gamble, isn't it one company or the other? Surely banning betting companies from targeting certain customers in the way they do is more beneficial? People have committed suicide due to debts they've built up from overspending on products that are nothing to do with gambling, so will everything be banned one day? The problems stem from society in general, and nothing will really improve until everyday social issues are improved. As well as that, one of the main problems is that spending money is far too easy these days, whether that's gambling or online shopping. No effort required. Maybe some sort of convoluted pin system for apps and websites for people showing signs of compulsive gambling or shopping habits should be introduced. Though that'd require companies (and probably the government) sharing and tracking even more data about everyone. Or maybe people should just be held responsible for their actions? The government doesn’t have to introduce legislation to safeguard every aspect of every person’s life. I have a major issue with alcohol. Now i don’t drink often and I take long periods off when I recognize issues creeping in. I don’t need the government to ban alcohol for me though. To a large extent I agree that people should be responsible for their actions, and I hate that the UK is becoming such a nanny state. But for addiction and other mental illness, it's not as simple as saying people should be responsible for their own actions. It's great that you recognise when issues with alcohol creep in and even better that you're able to stop. But it is far from that straightforward for many people.
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Post by skemstokie on Jun 30, 2022 11:02:56 GMT
Or maybe people should just be held responsible for their actions? The government doesn’t have to introduce legislation to safeguard every aspect of every person’s life. I have a major issue with alcohol. Now i don’t drink often and I take long periods off when I recognize issues creeping in. I don’t need the government to ban alcohol for me though. To a large extent I agree that people should be responsible for their actions, and I hate that the UK is becoming such a nanny state. But for addiction and other mental illness, it's not as simple as saying people should be responsible for their own actions. It's great that you recognise when issues with alcohol creep in and even better that you're able to stop. But it is far from that straightforward for many people. My take is if you ban betting adverts,sponsorship etc, it would have little or no effect,prohibition led to criminals making money from illegal drinking dens, before bookies were legal betting still went on but unregulated,surely it is better to accept that some people do have addictions and charge betting /drinks suppliers etc a levy to fund addiction clinics
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Post by cvillestokie on Jun 30, 2022 11:15:02 GMT
Draft Kings gives odds on WWE, which I just find hilarious to be honest! LOL! Somewhere out there, people are betting on "wrasslin!" I honestly don’t know how they regulate the insider knowledge etc, or the odds (can they just ask WWE if something will or won’t happen?).
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Post by cvillestokie on Jun 30, 2022 11:23:38 GMT
Or maybe people should just be held responsible for their actions? The government doesn’t have to introduce legislation to safeguard every aspect of every person’s life. I have a major issue with alcohol. Now i don’t drink often and I take long periods off when I recognize issues creeping in. I don’t need the government to ban alcohol for me though. To a large extent I agree that people should be responsible for their actions, and I hate that the UK is becoming such a nanny state. But for addiction and other mental illness, it's not as simple as saying people should be responsible for their own actions. It's great that you recognise when issues with alcohol creep in and even better that you're able to stop. But it is far from that straightforward for many people. I agree, it is a real challenge for many (and me). I just don’t think that the challenge needs to be placed on the government. Addiction is a very specific type of mental illness. Few substances/experiences are instantly addictive and I think that more regulations don’t sit well with me. That’s a personal opinion though. When they go in, it will be interesting to see if they actually do anything of use. I think it’s a slippery slope. Do we start asking McDonalds to take away bright colors etc like has been done on cigarette packages? There are few things more addictive than high sugar content foods, but the government shouldn’t introduce measures to stop fast food places from serving people over a certain BMI.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jun 30, 2022 12:11:04 GMT
To a large extent I agree that people should be responsible for their actions, and I hate that the UK is becoming such a nanny state. But for addiction and other mental illness, it's not as simple as saying people should be responsible for their own actions. It's great that you recognise when issues with alcohol creep in and even better that you're able to stop. But it is far from that straightforward for many people. I agree, it is a real challenge for many (and me). I just don’t think that the challenge needs to be placed on the government. Addiction is a very specific type of mental illness. Few substances/experiences are instantly addictive and I think that more regulations don’t sit well with me. That’s a personal opinion though. When they go in, it will be interesting to see if they actually do anything of use. I think it’s a slippery slope. Do we start asking McDonalds to take away bright colors etc like has been done on cigarette packages? There are few things more addictive than high sugar content foods, but the government shouldn’t introduce measures to stop fast food places from serving people over a certain BMI. And we already have a sugar tax. It's a slippery slope indeed, although I do think regulation around how specifically betting companies target customers is needed. Someone who has a potential gambling problem shouldn't have targeted adverts aimed at them via text, email, social media etc. I think all a lot of government actions do is make people feel worse about their addiction. The disgusting pictures on cigarette packets, for example. I've never smoked and hate seeing them myself.
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Post by cheadlepotter on Jun 30, 2022 13:21:01 GMT
LOL! Somewhere out there, people are betting on "wrasslin!" I honestly don’t know how they regulate the insider knowledge etc, or the odds (can they just ask WWE if something will or won’t happen?). The bookies only allow small bets on things like that. And those in charge such as Vince McMahon often change their minds on the match outcomes at the last minute anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2022 13:25:01 GMT
To a large extent I agree that people should be responsible for their actions, and I hate that the UK is becoming such a nanny state. But for addiction and other mental illness, it's not as simple as saying people should be responsible for their own actions. It's great that you recognise when issues with alcohol creep in and even better that you're able to stop. But it is far from that straightforward for many people. My take is if you ban betting adverts,sponsorship etc, it would have little or no effect,prohibition led to criminals making money from illegal drinking dens, before bookies were legal betting still went on but unregulated,surely it is better to accept that some people do have addictions and charge betting /drinks suppliers etc a levy to fund addiction clinics In parts of Asia betting is illegal. Have witnessed gaming shops locking their doors and bets being taken on FIFA console games on computer v computer mode. Literally packed with punters betting on a computer game outcome. ...not me of course..... Bloody Ajax
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Post by dirtclod on Jun 30, 2022 15:24:24 GMT
LOL! Somewhere out there, people are betting on "wrasslin!" I honestly don’t know how they regulate the insider knowledge etc, or the odds (can they just ask WWE if something will or won’t happen?). I don't know either, but would bet that they do ask, which makes it crooked as hell given the "scripting" of matches! LOL Be an easy "sport" to be a bookie on!
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Post by dutchstokie on Jun 30, 2022 18:41:32 GMT
Watching the Twins v Guardians on ESPN now and there’s the bet365 logos there n all …… good girl Denise !
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Post by Billy the kid on Jun 30, 2022 21:47:38 GMT
My take is if you ban betting adverts,sponsorship etc, it would have little or no effect,prohibition led to criminals making money from illegal drinking dens, before bookies were legal betting still went on but unregulated,surely it is better to accept that some people do have addictions and charge betting /drinks suppliers etc a levy to fund addiction clinics In parts of Asia betting is illegal. Have witnessed gaming shops locking their doors and bets being taken on FIFA console games on computer v computer mode. Literally packed with punters betting on a computer game outcome. ...not me of course..... Bloody Ajax Boca juniors u21 did it for me in a friendly v eicer plate u21 one more funking corner lads, seriously!
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