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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2020 21:47:39 GMT
He's only 20 and shipped 6 goals in his first two games but he has remained focused and solid which suggests a great character, I hope we are still singing his praises as a great Stoke keeper in 10 years time. Make that 18-20 years.
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Post by a on Dec 5, 2020 21:48:03 GMT
It’s harsh to drop him but I’d let him enjoy the clean sheets and bring back Davies, after all we were much better with him in the side. I’m sure joe will get his chance in time and fair play for his performances in the last few games. I don’t disagree but you can’t drop him in this form True. He’s done very well after a very shaky (understandable ) start
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 6, 2020 0:22:08 GMT
Played very well indeed. I feel more comfortable with him than I did with Butland. Has a good command of his area. I compared him to Butland today actually and how much more comfortable I felt with him in than Butland. Just shows how far he fell. As for what you do when Davies is back. Keep Bursik in if he carries on like this. Why not?
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Post by mcw on Dec 6, 2020 0:27:37 GMT
He was magnificent today, the measure of a good keeper is commanding your area and instilling confidence in your defence. Came for everything he needed too, handling was extremely good in wet conditions and his kicking is very good indeed.
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Post by gawa on Dec 6, 2020 0:37:29 GMT
I think many other managers would of signed an emergency keeper on loan and put them straight in the starting lineup, or if not, most certainly would have after his first two games.
So kudos to MON and the coaching team for keeping faith in him and giving him the opportunities; I'm sure it's done his confidence wonders.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 6, 2020 0:57:38 GMT
I think many other managers would of signed an emergency keeper on loan and put them straight in the starting lineup, or if not, most certainly would have after his first two games. So kudos to MON and the coaching team for keeping faith in him and giving him the opportunities; I'm sure it's done his confidence wonders. Tbh we didn’t really have a choice did we? We couldn’t loan a PL goalie and we were being offered 3rd and 4th choices in the Champo.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 6, 2020 20:53:52 GMT
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Post by marylandstoke on Dec 6, 2020 21:00:47 GMT
How long are the other two due to be out for?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 6, 2020 21:05:40 GMT
How long are the other two due to be out for? Davies was originally 6 to 8 weeks,Gunn about the same I think
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Post by clarkeda on Dec 6, 2020 21:16:01 GMT
As good as he’s been the last couple, he’s a young goalkeeper and still developing. As his first couple of games showed he’s not the finished article yet and he’ll get more out of going back out on loan for the second half of the season than sitting on our bench. Assuming Davies and Gunn are fit by the end of January, MON has a decision to make. It’s only worth keeping Bursik if he’s realistically going to play more than not. Otherwise another loan is best. Hopefully he’ll have shown enough for a lower end champ club to take a punt maybe. Which could be really useful.
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Post by followyoudown on Dec 6, 2020 21:34:52 GMT
As good as he’s been the last couple, he’s a young goalkeeper and still developing. As his first couple of games showed he’s not the finished article yet and he’ll get more out of going back out on loan for the second half of the season than sitting on our bench. Assuming Davies and Gunn are fit by the end of January, MON has a decision to make. It’s only worth keeping Bursik if he’s realistically going to play more than not. Otherwise another loan is best. Hopefully he’ll have shown enough for a lower end champ club to take a punt maybe. Which could be really useful. As MON showed with Davies / Butland if he thinks you are performing he will keep picking you regardless of reputation so unless he drops some clangers I think the place is his for now, the other thing to bear in mind he has been in England age group teams from 10 or 11 for much of that time he was at AFC Wimbledon so he is obviously a serious talent if we don't provide a pathway to the first team for him someone else will....
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 7, 2020 9:13:24 GMT
As good as he’s been the last couple, he’s a young goalkeeper and still developing. As his first couple of games showed he’s not the finished article yet and he’ll get more out of going back out on loan for the second half of the season than sitting on our bench. Assuming Davies and Gunn are fit by the end of January, MON has a decision to make. It’s only worth keeping Bursik if he’s realistically going to play more than not. Otherwise another loan is best. Hopefully he’ll have shown enough for a lower end champ club to take a punt maybe. Which could be really useful. As players are only allowed to PLAY for 2 clubs a season (I'm pretty sure this rule is still in force) he can only play for us or go back to Doncaster this season.
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Post by walrus on Dec 7, 2020 9:53:25 GMT
Hopefully he’ll have shown enough for a lower end champ club to take a punt maybe. Which could be really useful. As players are only allowed to PLAY for 2 clubs a season (I'm pretty sure this rule is still in force) he can only play for us or go back to Doncaster this season. The rule was temporarily changed to no more than three clubs for 2020/21. I think it was done so that if any clubs went bust or had to lay off playing staff it would be easier for them to find another club.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 7, 2020 9:58:12 GMT
As players are only allowed to PLAY for 2 clubs a season (I'm pretty sure this rule is still in force) he can only play for us or go back to Doncaster this season. The rule was temporarily changed to no more than three clubs for 2020/21. I think it was done so that if any clubs went bust or had to lay off playing staff it would be easier for them to find another club. cheers
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Post by biglad180 on Dec 7, 2020 11:38:45 GMT
i may have missed it some where but is Joe Bursik cup tied
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 7, 2020 11:47:43 GMT
i may have missed it some where but is Joe Bursik cup tied He is in the League Cup but not the FA Cup from the look of it.
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Post by tachyon on Dec 7, 2020 17:58:44 GMT
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Post by somersetstokie on Dec 7, 2020 18:16:20 GMT
i may have missed it some where but is Joe Bursik cup tied He is cup tied for the cup game against Tottenham.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2020 21:13:45 GMT
Real shaky start but the fefence has protected him so well. Hardly a shot to deal with last few games but handled the ball well. Won't do his confidence harm but Sheff Weds and Borô were 2 good games to have and they tend to score every month or so but credit to him. Certainly not number 1 material yet but great experience for him
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 7, 2020 21:26:41 GMT
Does the form and potential of Bursik change our thoughts on signing Gunn permanently? You'd think it would be unnecessary moving into next season.
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Post by tqstokie on Dec 7, 2020 21:26:56 GMT
Of course he is No. 1 material. A revelation in fact.
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 7, 2020 21:29:44 GMT
Does the form and potential of Bursik change our thoughts on signing Gunn permanently? You'd think it would be unnecessary moving into next season. I think Gunn is an excellent keeper, but Davies/Bursik would be as strong a goalkeeping duo in this Division (in we are still in it!) I think Gunn wasn't planning on staying anyway?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 7, 2020 21:31:45 GMT
Does the form and potential of Bursik change our thoughts on signing Gunn permanently? You'd think it would be unnecessary moving into next season. I think Gunn is an excellent keeper, but Davies/Bursik would be as strong a goalkeeping duo in this Division (in we are still in it!) I think Gunn wasn't planning on staying anyway? No idea tbh but if he didn't get injured, played well and liked it around here, I suppose a permanent deal could've been on the cards. Hard to see him getting back in now though.
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Post by albundy on Dec 7, 2020 21:50:09 GMT
As players are only allowed to PLAY for 2 clubs a season (I'm pretty sure this rule is still in force) he can only play for us or go back to Doncaster this season. The rule was temporarily changed to no more than three clubs for 2020/21. I think it was done so that if any clubs went bust or had to lay off playing staff it would be easier for them to find another club. I think Plympton is right in that although players can be registered for 3 clubs they can only play for 2
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Post by bgreen13 on Dec 7, 2020 21:55:18 GMT
Hopefully he’ll have shown enough for a lower end champ club to take a punt maybe. Which could be really useful. As MON showed with Davies / Butland if he thinks you are performing he will keep picking you regardless of reputation so unless he drops some clangers I think the place is his for now, the other thing to bear in mind he has been in England age group teams from 10 or 11 for much of that time he was at AFC Wimbledon so he is obviously a serious talent if we don't provide a pathway to the first team for him someone else will.... Yep. All the bitching when we signed Gunn about how he'd drop Davies because Gunns on loan, on more money etc... But he didn't, he kept with Davies.
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Post by northernstokie on Dec 7, 2020 23:33:24 GMT
Does the form and potential of Bursik change our thoughts on signing Gunn permanently? You'd think it would be unnecessary moving into next season. I would hope bursik would go on loan next year if Davies is back to no1. Wont do him any good to sit on the bench for a season when he could be playing. If he can stay in goal for the rest of the season and keep Davies on the bench then keep him here next season.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2020 23:41:00 GMT
Said elsewhere he was brilliant today and that’s my humble pie from the other night doubled he’s had two great games He wasnt brilliant at all but dealt well with what he had to do.
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Post by PotterLog on Dec 8, 2020 0:28:16 GMT
Does the form and potential of Bursik change our thoughts on signing Gunn permanently? You'd think it would be unnecessary moving into next season. Things can change so I guess you never know, but we don’t have an option on Gunn and he’s still very much part of Southampton’s plans. It’s unlikely we were ever going to get him permanently.
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Post by walrus on Dec 8, 2020 8:58:14 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 16, 2020 8:55:46 GMT
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