Mikel

[bayernoatcake]

Nov 1, 2020 10:43:03 GMT The Toxic Avenger said:

I like how intelligent he is on the ball and how he is nigh on impossible to knock off it. He shields the ball really well.

Off the ball he hasn’t plugged the gaps yet like I thought he would. We’re quite easy to walk through.

His passing has been a real surprise, in the sense of that I didn't think it would be progressive but it's brilliant and has made a difference to our attacking play. Yesterday I thought that was off. But he needs a rest, I think that's clear.

[nottsover60]

Nov 1, 2020 10:35:09 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Nov 1, 2020 10:32:59 GMT bgreen13 said:

I know you've tried but you're not the only contributor to this thread.

I don't take anything you say seriously.

Stoke fans historically hate DM's, until we haven't got one.

Have they since when?

And Mikel hasn't been a DM for us, far from it imo. He leaves way too many gaps.

His passing and attacking play has been the good side of him and where he's shown his quality. Defensively there's been little.

If that's what you think you haven't been watching him. I keep banging the drum about how good defensive midfield players don't have to run and tackle a lot so often go unnoticed because they just happen to be in the right place. I love the way he often watches a long ball coming and instead of challenging a player just backs off so that the player glances the ball to where he' s standing. That's class. If he needs to like yesterday he will tackle and sometimes foul but usually doesn't need to and most of all he is always there. His passing is improving with game time and I suspect he is doing a lot of coaching on the pitch. 

[bayernoatcake]

Nov 1, 2020 10:50:45 GMT nottsover60 said:

Nov 1, 2020 10:35:09 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Have they since when?

And Mikel hasn't been a DM for us, far from it imo. He leaves way too many gaps.

His passing and attacking play has been the good side of him and where he's shown his quality. Defensively there's been little.

If that's what you think you haven't been watching him. I keep banging the drum about how good defensive midfield players don't have to run and tackle a lot so often go unnoticed because they just happen to be in the right place. I love the way he often watches a long ball coming and instead of challenging a player just backs off so that the player glances the ball to where he' s standing. That's class. If he needs to like yesterday he will tackle and sometimes foul but usually doesn't need to and most of all he is always there. His passing is improving with game time and I suspect he is doing a lot of coaching on the pitch. 

I know they don't have to run and tackle, Delap was a fine of example of this.

I don't think Mikel does it. I love a good defensive midfielder who plays how you say but I don't see it in Mikel.

His passing has been brilliant. Bar yesterday.

[davejohnno1]

Nov 1, 2020 10:43:03 GMT The Toxic Avenger said:

I like how intelligent he is on the ball and how he is nigh on impossible to knock off it. He shields the ball really well.

Off the ball he hasn’t plugged the gaps yet like I thought he would. We’re quite easy to walk through.

He picked up practically every 2nd ball yesterday, particularly 1st half.

[gingerninja]

I think with Allen alongside him and a rejuvenated Clucas, we would have a nicely balanced midfield.

[march4]

Is getting better with every game.

[nott1]

The Stoke City Pirlo!

[RF10]

He's a got a brain above others and the ability to pull it off. Needs to be handled carefully with coming on after 70 mins some games to see the win out and getting a rest.

Saying this his body may still be fitter than ever and can cope.

[kronkie]

Nov 1, 2020 11:57:37 GMT nott1 said:

The Stoke City Pirlo!

Thats 2 weve got now with Allen.

[benjaminbiscuit]

Nov 1, 2020 11:32:14 GMT gingerninja said:

I think with Allen alongside him and a rejuvenated Clucas, we would have a nicely balanced midfield.

Question as those two are definitely two of our best players who gets left out in this system
I’d go

Davies

Smith souttar (baht or Collins ) fox

Allen Mikel clucas

Campbell fletcher McLean

But he has to drop Powell To do that and change the system or mikel or go

Davies

Collins. Souttar. (Baht or fox )
Mikel
Brown Allen clucas McLean

Powell

Campbell fletcher

[WorkingclassHero]

Nov 1, 2020 12:57:42 GMT benjaminbiscuit said:

Nov 1, 2020 11:32:14 GMT gingerninja said:

I think with Allen alongside him and a rejuvenated Clucas, we would have a nicely balanced midfield.

Question as those two are definitely two of our best players who gets left out in this system
I’d go

Davies

Smith souttar (baht or Collins ) fox

Allen Mikel clucas

Campbell fletcher McLean

But he has to drop Powell To do that and change the system or mikel or go

Davies

Collins. Souttar. (Baht or fox )
Mikel
Brown Allen clucas McLean

Powell

Campbell fletcher

You are spot on with the first 11. That's our best team with Powell as a game changer off the bench.

I looked at the second team thought that is too good to be true. It is unless the rules have changed.

[datguy]

I thought he was brilliant on the ball yesterday.

Can tell he's got a footballing brain 3 or 4 levels above everyone else on the pitch.

[WorkingclassHero]

Nov 1, 2020 13:07:04 GMT datguy said:

I thought he was brilliant on the ball yesterday.

Can tell he's got a footballing brain 3 or 4 levels above everyone else on the pitch.

One of the most accomplished players in the league. He gives us an outside chance of getting out of this league.

[benjaminbiscuit]

Nov 1, 2020 13:06:14 GMT WorkingclassHero said:

Nov 1, 2020 12:57:42 GMT benjaminbiscuit said:

Question as those two are definitely two of our best players who gets left out in this system
I’d go

Davies

Smith souttar (baht or Collins ) fox

Allen Mikel clucas

Campbell fletcher McLean

But he has to drop Powell To do that and change the system or mikel or go

Davies

Collins. Souttar. (Baht or fox )
Mikel
Brown Allen clucas McLean

Powell

Campbell fletcher

You are spot on with the first 11. That's our best team with Powell as a game changer off the bench.

I looked at the second team thought that is too good to be true. It is unless the rules have changed.

Bugger fat fingers

Davies

Collins Souttar Baht

Mikel

Brown Allen. Clucas. McLean

Campbell fetcher

Or you play Powell infront of the 4 instead of Mike behind it

[jimmygscfc1234]

Our strongest 11 contains Fletcher, Powell, Campbell, Clucas, Allen and Mikel in front of a back four. However, it could only work with Tyrese wide (as he is, to be fair), and Clucas pushing up from a wider left midfield position. Not the quickest team, but the best ability wise.

[The Toxic Avenger]

Nov 1, 2020 11:22:46 GMT davejohnno1 said:

Nov 1, 2020 10:43:03 GMT The Toxic Avenger said:

I like how intelligent he is on the ball and how he is nigh on impossible to knock off it. He shields the ball really well.

Off the ball he hasn’t plugged the gaps yet like I thought he would. We’re quite easy to walk through.

He picked up practically every 2nd ball yesterday, particularly 1st half.

He was also quite often nowhere to be seen when they came through the middle.

[theteacher]

Nov 1, 2020 13:44:43 GMT jimmygscfc1234 said:

Our strongest 11 contains Fletcher, Powell, Campbell, Clucas, Allen and Mikel in front of a back four. However, it could only work with Tyrese wide (as he is, to be fair), and Clucas pushing up from a wider left midfield position. Not the quickest team, but the best ability wise.

Looks the perfect diamond to me.

[Deleted]

Nov 1, 2020 15:27:00 GMT theteacher said:

Nov 1, 2020 13:44:43 GMT jimmygscfc1234 said:

Our strongest 11 contains Fletcher, Powell, Campbell, Clucas, Allen and Mikel in front of a back four. However, it could only work with Tyrese wide (as he is, to be fair), and Clucas pushing up from a wider left midfield position. Not the quickest team, but the best ability wise.

Looks the perfect diamond to me.

Never speak of the diamond again! 😂 As shown with the 3-5-2 and under Jones, we need better wing backs for that.

I am excited about seeing Allen, Clucas and Mikel all pushing for a spot though. Clucas needs to find his goalscoring boots. If he does, he may be fighting Powell for the more attacking spot on the field.

[kustokie]

Mikkel is not the player he was. However, he is still a notch above most midfield players in the championship. He’s very calm under pressure and rarely makes a bad pass. We’d be a total disaster without him, if you think about who there is to replace him.

[The battheader chronicles]

Nov 1, 2020 15:27:00 GMT theteacher said:

Nov 1, 2020 13:44:43 GMT jimmygscfc1234 said:

Our strongest 11 contains Fletcher, Powell, Campbell, Clucas, Allen and Mikel in front of a back four. However, it could only work with Tyrese wide (as he is, to be fair), and Clucas pushing up from a wider left midfield position. Not the quickest team, but the best ability wise.

Looks the perfect diamond to me.

Hi Nath, how’s Luton 😉

[davejohnno1]

Nov 1, 2020 15:11:44 GMT The Toxic Avenger said:

Nov 1, 2020 11:22:46 GMT davejohnno1 said:

He picked up practically every 2nd ball yesterday, particularly 1st half.

He was also quite often nowhere to be seen when they came through the middle.

Really? I don't recall them coming through the middle at all. The only danger they caused was via Miller getting in behind Smith.

[houstonsteve]

Class player. As he gets his game fitness back becoming more and more influential.

[abudhabistokie82]

Nov 1, 2020 12:57:42 GMT benjaminbiscuit said:

Nov 1, 2020 11:32:14 GMT gingerninja said:

I think with Allen alongside him and a rejuvenated Clucas, we would have a nicely balanced midfield.

Question as those two are definitely two of our best players who gets left out in this system
I’d go

Davies

Smith souttar (baht or Collins ) fox

Allen Mikel clucas

Campbell fletcher McLean

But he has to drop Powell To do that and change the system or mikel or go

Davies

Collins. Souttar. (Baht or fox )
Mikel
Brown Allen clucas McLean

Powell

Campbell fletcher

How about this:

Davies

Collins. Souttar. (Baht or fox )
Mikel
Brown clucas McLean

Allen

Campbell fletcher

With Powell off the bench as an impact sub. I think Allen has the energy to play the more advanced roll and given clucas and Mikel behind him will have more freedom to be a nuisance.

[mrcoke]

Another excellent performance tonight.

Did he move further forward when Cousins was brought on?

[boskampsflaps]

Nov 1, 2020 17:55:01 GMT abudhabistokie82 said:

Nov 1, 2020 12:57:42 GMT benjaminbiscuit said:

Question as those two are definitely two of our best players who gets left out in this system
I’d go

Davies

Smith souttar (baht or Collins ) fox

Allen Mikel clucas

Campbell fletcher McLean

But he has to drop Powell To do that and change the system or mikel or go

Davies

Collins. Souttar. (Baht or fox )
Mikel
Brown Allen clucas McLean

Powell

Campbell fletcher

How about this:

Davies

Collins. Souttar. (Baht or fox )
Mikel
Brown clucas McLean

Allen

Campbell fletcher

With Powell off the bench as an impact sub. I think Allen has the energy to play the more advanced roll and given clucas and Mikel behind him will have more freedom to be a nuisance.

4 at the back needs to stay.

[boskampsflaps]

Nov 4, 2020 21:31:24 GMT mrcoke said:

Another excellent performance tonight.

Did he move further forward when Cousins was brought on?

Given he was alone in midfield I thought he did well, he just needs someone next to him to help him out.

[Deleted]

Nov 4, 2020 21:33:48 GMT boskampsflaps said:

Nov 4, 2020 21:31:24 GMT mrcoke said:

Another excellent performance tonight.

Did he move further forward when Cousins was brought on?

Given he was alone in midfield I thought he did well, he just needs someone next to him to help him out.

Step forward Mr Joseph Allen

[boskampsflaps]

Nov 4, 2020 21:39:31 GMT @vincentvega said:

Nov 4, 2020 21:33:48 GMT boskampsflaps said:

Given he was alone in midfield I thought he did well, he just needs someone next to him to help him out.

Step forward Mr Joseph Allen

Nope.

[Deleted]

Nov 4, 2020 21:40:00 GMT boskampsflaps said:

Nov 4, 2020 21:39:31 GMT @vincentvega said:

Step forward Mr Joseph Allen

Nope.

You can nope all you want.

When Allen is fit, Allen will play.
And rightly so.

[boskampsflaps]

Nov 4, 2020 22:28:04 GMT @vincentvega said:

Nov 4, 2020 21:40:00 GMT boskampsflaps said:

Nope.

You can nope all you want.

When Allen is fit, Allen will play.
And rightly so.

I know he will but that doesn't mean I agree with it, as it stands Clucas and Mikel should be ahead of him and thats before we even know if the injury has any effect on him.