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Post by liathroid on Sept 12, 2020 11:45:32 GMT
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Post by lancashirelad on Sept 12, 2020 12:04:59 GMT
3 down and still nothing from Stoke twitter ,Bayern is right about the media side on the underage teams Burnley had a twiiter feed with updates, also covering their U23 game. First 2 Burnley goals Rooney headers from set pieces, 3rd ball over the top for forward to run onto (hung up in the wind) and Sparrow was a long range angled shot. According to Burnley feed. |
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Post by liathroid on Sept 12, 2020 12:53:03 GMT
3 down and still nothing from Stoke twitter ,Bayern is right about the media side on the underage teams Burnley had a twiiter feed with updates, also covering their U23 game. First 2 Burnley goals Rooney headers from set pieces, 3rd ball over the top for forward to run onto (hung up in the wind) and Sparrow was a long range angled shot. According to Burnley feed. i did see that ,but Stoke didnt and thats what Bayern is always moaning about and he is right |
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Post by lancashirelad on Sept 13, 2020 10:38:13 GMT
Burnley had a twiiter feed with updates, also covering their U23 game. First 2 Burnley goals Rooney headers from set pieces, 3rd ball over the top for forward to run onto (hung up in the wind) and Sparrow was a long range angled shot. According to Burnley feed. i did see that ,but Stoke didnt and thats what Bayern is always moaning about and he is right I knew what you meant. Stoke's feed does cover u23s now and again but not if on the same day as the first team. I suspect one person for one job and cannot be in two places at once like it has been for years. As you are aware most U18/U23 details I look at come from Ruane's and another poster i have seen them at the odd game. |
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Post by liathroid on Sept 13, 2020 11:37:34 GMT
i did see that ,but Stoke didnt and thats what Bayern is always moaning about and he is right I knew what you meant. Stoke's feed does cover u23s now and again but not if on the same day as the first team. I suspect one person for one job and cannot be in two places at once like it has been for years. As you are aware most U18/U23 details I look at come from Ruane's and another poster i have seen them at the odd game. yes him and Knowles are good , but it wouldnt cost a fortune too have someone do it ,a lad from collage learning to become a journalist |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 13, 2020 13:15:20 GMT
I knew what you meant. Stoke's feed does cover u23s now and again but not if on the same day as the first team. I suspect one person for one job and cannot be in two places at once like it has been for years. As you are aware most U18/U23 details I look at come from Ruane's and another poster i have seen them at the odd game. yes him and Knowles are good , but it wouldnt cost a fortune too have someone do it ,a lad from collage learning to become a journalist There’s a team of 3 already which I know isn’t massive but what else are they actually doing? |
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Post by lordb on Sept 13, 2020 13:37:36 GMT
yes him and Knowles are good , but it wouldnt cost a fortune too have someone do it ,a lad from collage learning to become a journalist There’s a team of 3 already which I know isn’t massive but what else are they actually doing? Banging their heads against the wall? Can't be easy working for Scholes. Change the CEO and all sorts would only not least this. |
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 13, 2020 13:46:01 GMT
I knew what you meant. Stoke's feed does cover u23s now and again but not if on the same day as the first team. I suspect one person for one job and cannot be in two places at once like it has been for years. As you are aware most U18/U23 details I look at come from Ruane's and another poster i have seen them at the odd game. yes him and Knowles are good , but it wouldnt cost a fortune too have someone do it ,a lad from collage learning to become a journalist There are clubs in the County Leagues (8-10 divisions below us!) who run regularly updated twitter feeds for all their Under-18 games with match reports on their websites. It's quite incredible really for a club of this size. Do we even post match reports? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 13, 2020 15:44:53 GMT
There’s a team of 3 already which I know isn’t massive but what else are they actually doing? Banging their heads against the wall? Can't be easy working for Scholes. Chai the CEO and all sorts would only not least this. And that is an issue but seriously? The social media output not on a match day is happy birthdays to players you forgot were a thing and nowt else. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 14, 2020 10:04:54 GMT
The fixture will be streamed live on Stoke's YouTube channel with kick-off in Staffordshire set for 19:00.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2020 10:22:11 GMT
The fixture will be streamed live on Stoke's YouTube channel with kick-off in Staffordshire set for 19:00. Great comms from the club on this 🤦♂️ |
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Post by lordb on Sept 14, 2020 11:08:21 GMT
Banging their heads against the wall? Can't be easy working for Scholes. Chai the CEO and all sorts would only not least this. And that is an issue but seriously? The social media output not on a match day is happy birthdays to players you forgot were a thing and nowt else. Scholes is the issue A proper CEO would ensure the website, the Twitter feed e.t.c were up to scratch |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2020 12:04:41 GMT
And that is an issue but seriously? The social media output not on a match day is happy birthdays to players you forgot were a thing and nowt else. Scholes is the issue A proper CEO would ensure the website, the Twitter feed e.t.c were up to scratch Still doesn’t give them an excuse for not doing much. Like if there is a stream for the u23 game tonight why has knowledge of that come from a Leeds journo? That isn’t Tony Scholes’ fault. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 14, 2020 12:45:07 GMT
Scholes is the issue A proper CEO would ensure the website, the Twitter feed e.t.c were up to scratch Still doesn’t give them an excuse for not doing much. Like if there is a stream for the u23 game tonight why has knowledge of that come from a Leeds journo? That isn’t Tony Scholes’ fault. The initial fault may not be down to him - someone in the media department you would think. But one of the main (possibly THE MAIN) job of a CEO is to ensure that all his heads of department are doing their jobs properly. So a major part of it certainly IS Tony Scholes' fault.  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2020 12:50:45 GMT
Still doesn’t give them an excuse for not doing much. Like if there is a stream for the u23 game tonight why has knowledge of that come from a Leeds journo? That isn’t Tony Scholes’ fault. The initial fault may not be down to him - someone in the media department you would think. But one of the main (possibly THE MAIN) job of a CEO is to ensure that all his heads of department are doing their jobs properly. So a major part of it certainly IS Tony Scholes' fault. Of course but this whole let’s not criticise the media team is a nonsense. We should not be hearing stuff like this from a journo first. It’s pathetic. Some responsibility needs to be taken by those actually doing the job. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 14, 2020 13:32:24 GMT
The initial fault may not be down to him - someone in the media department you would think. But one of the main (possibly THE MAIN) job of a CEO is to ensure that all his heads of department are doing their jobs properly. So a major part of it certainly IS Tony Scholes' fault. Of course but this whole let’s not criticise the media team is a nonsense. We should not be hearing stuff like this from a journo first. It’s pathetic. Some responsibility needs to be taken by those actually doing the job. Don't worry bayern, I agree with you about the media team - but I don't like to see Scholes avoiding a full share of the blame when it quite clearly is both his fault and the fault of the media department. What makes it worse, is that with no fans allowed at games, the club should be even more alert than usual to create opportunities to engage fans with the club's activities. U23 and U18 games should be streamed - or at least recorded to show later - and regular video updates should be provided showing training and other aspects of club life. They should take a leaf from what other organisations are doing during the covid pandemic. The internet is full of online things to watch and do from online choirs, online political conferences, online videos of dogs, cats, staycations from Cornwall to Scotland, mothers union meetings etc. etc. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2020 13:44:04 GMT
Of course but this whole let’s not criticise the media team is a nonsense. We should not be hearing stuff like this from a journo first. It’s pathetic. Some responsibility needs to be taken by those actually doing the job. Don't worry bayern, I agree with you about the media team - but I don't like to see Scholes avoiding a full share of the blame when it quite clearly is both his fault and the fault of the media department. What makes it worse, is that with no fans allowed at games, the club should be even more alert than usual to create opportunities to engage fans with the club's activities. U23 and U18 games should be streamed - or at least recorded to show later - and regular video updates should be provided showing training and other aspects of club life. They should take a leaf from what other organisations are doing during the covid pandemic. The internet is full of online things to watch and do from online choirs, online political conferences, online videos of dogs, cats, staycations from Cornwall to Scotland, mothers union meetings etc. etc. But it’s exactly what Lordb is doing. Blaming Scholes solely for this is laughable and I’ve hated Scholes since the accountant twat joined. As you say now more than the media side is very very important and we do it so badly. |
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Post by AlliG on Sept 14, 2020 13:53:42 GMT
Of course but this whole let’s not criticise the media team is a nonsense. We should not be hearing stuff like this from a journo first. It’s pathetic. Some responsibility needs to be taken by those actually doing the job. Don't worry bayern, I agree with you about the media team - but I don't like to see Scholes avoiding a full share of the blame when it quite clearly is both his fault and the fault of the media department. What makes it worse, is that with no fans allowed at games, the club should be even more alert than usual to create opportunities to engage fans with the club's activities. U23 and U18 games should be streamed - or at least recorded to show later - and regular video updates should be provided showing training and other aspects of club life. They should take a leaf from what other organisations are doing during the covid pandemic. The internet is full of online things to watch and do from online choirs, online political conferences, online videos of dogs, cats, staycations from Cornwall to Scotland, mothers union meetings etc. etc. My son's best friend is the U23 "media manager" for another Championship club. Prior to lockdown he was probably going to lose his job as the junior member of the department due to the cutbacks that club was beginning to apply. Since lockdown he now does commentary on all their U23 games and spends the rest of his time posting videos and interviews from U23 games/players and updating and monitoring their U23 twitter & other social media accounts. When you consider that a number of other roles within the office/commercial side of the club must have vanished over the last 6 months it is surprising that we apparently can't find someone to take on a similar role here. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2020 14:00:02 GMT
Don't worry bayern, I agree with you about the media team - but I don't like to see Scholes avoiding a full share of the blame when it quite clearly is both his fault and the fault of the media department. What makes it worse, is that with no fans allowed at games, the club should be even more alert than usual to create opportunities to engage fans with the club's activities. U23 and U18 games should be streamed - or at least recorded to show later - and regular video updates should be provided showing training and other aspects of club life. They should take a leaf from what other organisations are doing during the covid pandemic. The internet is full of online things to watch and do from online choirs, online political conferences, online videos of dogs, cats, staycations from Cornwall to Scotland, mothers union meetings etc. etc. My son's best friend is the U23 "media manager" for another Championship club. Prior to lockdown he was probably going to lose his job as the junior member of the department due to the cutbacks that club was beginning to apply. Since lockdown he now does commentary on all their U23 games and spends the rest of his time posting videos and interviews from U23 games/players and updating and monitoring their U23 twitter & other social media accounts. When you consider that a number of other roles within the office/commercial side of the club must have vanished over the last 6 months it is surprising that we apparently can't find someone to take on a similar role here. We didn’t that when we had the PL riches. We had the odd person who did it on a voluntary basis. It’s a joke. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 14, 2020 14:05:47 GMT
Don't worry bayern, I agree with you about the media team - but I don't like to see Scholes avoiding a full share of the blame when it quite clearly is both his fault and the fault of the media department. What makes it worse, is that with no fans allowed at games, the club should be even more alert than usual to create opportunities to engage fans with the club's activities. U23 and U18 games should be streamed - or at least recorded to show later - and regular video updates should be provided showing training and other aspects of club life. They should take a leaf from what other organisations are doing during the covid pandemic. The internet is full of online things to watch and do from online choirs, online political conferences, online videos of dogs, cats, staycations from Cornwall to Scotland, mothers union meetings etc. etc. My son's best friend is the U23 "media manager" for another Championship club. Prior to lockdown he was probably going to lose his job as the junior member of the department due to the cutbacks that club was beginning to apply. Since lockdown he now does commentary on all their U23 games and spends the rest of his time posting videos and interviews from U23 games/players and updating and monitoring their U23 twitter & other social media accounts. When you consider that a number of other roles within the office/commercial side of the club must have vanished over the last 6 months it is surprising that we apparently can't find someone to take on a similar role here. Interesting, but it should not be surprising - to anyone but staff at Stoke City!  When you look at businesses and organisations which have flourished since the pandemic started, most of them are either dealing with the pandemic itself, or they have been in a position to ramp up their online activities - be that in retailing or in the provision of online services. Until fans are allowed back into stadiums en masse, football clubs are, effectively, now part of the online/broadcast entertainment industry. A pity Stoke City haven't realised that this means that they should do ALL THEY POSSIBLY CAN to boost their online output. |
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Post by AlliG on Sept 14, 2020 14:13:26 GMT
My son's best friend is the U23 "media manager" for another Championship club. Prior to lockdown he was probably going to lose his job as the junior member of the department due to the cutbacks that club was beginning to apply. Since lockdown he now does commentary on all their U23 games and spends the rest of his time posting videos and interviews from U23 games/players and updating and monitoring their U23 twitter & other social media accounts. When you consider that a number of other roles within the office/commercial side of the club must have vanished over the last 6 months it is surprising that we apparently can't find someone to take on a similar role here. We didn’t that when we had the PL riches. We had the odd person who did it on a voluntary basis. It’s a joke. Neither did his club either. However the world has changed over the last 6 months and while his club have noticed, it doesn't appear that we have. |
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Post by lordb on Sept 14, 2020 14:19:34 GMT
Don't worry bayern, I agree with you about the media team - but I don't like to see Scholes avoiding a full share of the blame when it quite clearly is both his fault and the fault of the media department. What makes it worse, is that with no fans allowed at games, the club should be even more alert than usual to create opportunities to engage fans with the club's activities. U23 and U18 games should be streamed - or at least recorded to show later - and regular video updates should be provided showing training and other aspects of club life. They should take a leaf from what other organisations are doing during the covid pandemic. The internet is full of online things to watch and do from online choirs, online political conferences, online videos of dogs, cats, staycations from Cornwall to Scotland, mothers union meetings etc. etc. But it’s exactly what Lordb is doing. Blaming Scholes solely for this is laughable and I’ve hated Scholes since the accountant twat joined. As you say now more than the media side is very very important and we do it so badly. I would politely suggest to you that either all the media team are lazy and/or inept or that the CEO is. One day we will have a different CEO I would venture that the very same media team from day 1 will be vastly improved. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2020 14:21:55 GMT
But it’s exactly what Lordb is doing. Blaming Scholes solely for this is laughable and I’ve hated Scholes since the accountant twat joined. As you say now more than the media side is very very important and we do it so badly. I would politely suggest to you that either all the media team are lazy and/or inept or that the CEO is. One day we will have a different CEO I would venture that the very same media team from day 1 will be vastly improved. So they can’t announce a stream for game before a Leeds journo because? I mean it’s 4 hours before kick off and I don’t think it’s still official? |
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Post by lordb on Sept 14, 2020 14:25:43 GMT
I would politely suggest to you that either all the media team are lazy and/or inept or that the CEO is. One day we will have a different CEO I would venture that the very same media team from day 1 will be vastly improved. So they can’t announce a stream for game before a Leeds journo because? I mean it’s 4 hours before kick off and I don’t think it’s still official? Presumably because they are inept and lazy. Therefore the CEO should be all over that, and should have been years and years ago. But he clearly isn't. So it will continue to be a sub par service regardless. Until Scholes has left at best we will be behind the times |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2020 14:28:50 GMT
So they can’t announce a stream for game before a Leeds journo because? I mean it’s 4 hours before kick off and I don’t think it’s still official? Presumably because they are inept and lazy. Therefore the CEO should be all over that, and should have been years and years ago. But he clearly isn't. So it will continue to be a sub par service regardless. Until Scholes has left at best we will be behind the times I wouldn’t expect the CEO to deal with this level of thing. And I wouldn’t want him to either. I would hope there’s at least someone else between him and the media manager tbh. I mean there might not even be a stream but there shouldn’t be a doubt about it. That’s really poor in itself. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 14, 2020 14:40:07 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2020 14:42:04 GMT
Absolutely mad. We have five better goalkeepers 😂 |
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 14, 2020 15:13:47 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 14, 2020 15:15:16 GMT
Doing them a disservice. Confirmed earlier than expected
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2020 15:17:30 GMT
Yeah it’s good they’re doing it definitely.
But the comms around it is appalling and I really don’t give a shit what anyone says. It shouldn’t be announced first by a Leeds journo then 3 hours before kick off.
Christ if you advertised enough in advance could you get enough people to try and get a sponsor for the stream for a few hundred quid?
I know it’s not much but every little helps.
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When you look at businesses and organisations which have flourished since the pandemic started, most of them are either dealing with the pandemic itself, or they have been in a position to ramp up their online activities - be that in retailing or in the provision of online services. Until fans are allowed back into stadiums en masse, football clubs are, effectively, now part of the online/broadcast entertainment industry. A pity Stoke City haven't realised that this means that they should do ALL THEY POSSIBLY CAN to boost their online output.
