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Post by mickstupp on Feb 26, 2021 18:31:38 GMT
I’m sorry to read about your condition. No one is “happy clapping”. That’s just a poor response. If you are indeed a Stoke supporter then you’ve seen the club in a much worse position than this, both on and off the pitch. The mistakes have happened, I don’t know why you feel the need to regurgitate the point time and time again? Different time, different eras, and different downfalls. Your cannot compare one to the other at circumstances change. Our downfall is the equivalent of Amazon suddenly going to the wall and being overtaken by co-op. Our future trajectory is that of a lame mule, and our systems and investment in infrastructure and futures is unbelievable considering both investment and the modernisation of the sport. We are on par with that of Barnsley, Coventry, Sheffield Wednesday, teams who have had no investment for decades. It's just not comparable. I still can't fathom why our accountant is part of the board AND CEO. It's impossible to rid of him. But it's ok, the lads don't have win bonuses so I'm guessing that's where the'desire' falls short Martin. Martin?
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Post by citynickscfc on Feb 26, 2021 21:04:13 GMT
Different time, different eras, and different downfalls. Your cannot compare one to the other at circumstances change. Our downfall is the equivalent of Amazon suddenly going to the wall and being overtaken by co-op. Our future trajectory is that of a lame mule, and our systems and investment in infrastructure and futures is unbelievable considering both investment and the modernisation of the sport. We are on par with that of Barnsley, Coventry, Sheffield Wednesday, teams who have had no investment for decades. It's just not comparable. I still can't fathom why our accountant is part of the board AND CEO. It's impossible to rid of him. But it's ok, the lads don't have win bonuses so I'm guessing that's where the'desire' falls short Martin. Martin? Michael, my bad. Should have just written MON, which is quite an annoyingly ridiculous short form. Funny how much happier I'd be as a Barnsley fan now. From zero last season to this season - oh and Cardiff - transformed after 2 games. Why are we so happy to be in this weird 'long term rebuild' state of mind? What evidence of a rebuild do we have? Apart from the fact that next season we will need a new bunch of freebies, has beens and loans who won't feature much?
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Post by nott1 on Feb 27, 2021 10:02:26 GMT
In the long time I've been supporting Stoke I've never known so many players not contributing to SCFC causes. We've had the odd mard-arse over the years, but into double figures of the fuckers is outrageous. It's holding us back massively. A related post suggested recently, we are easily into 6 figures of money being burnt on diddly squat. Until these players leave we're doing about the best we can. Astonishingly the men who have overseen this disaster are still in place. Do you mean the owners? We would not have had the amount of money they put in with most other potential owners we'd get! We are in the shit now without getting in less rich people.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 27, 2021 10:19:05 GMT
Astonishingly the men who have overseen this disaster are still in place. Do you mean the owners? We would not have had the amount of money they put in with most other potential owners we'd get! We are in the shit now without getting in less rich people. The CEO and Jnr are imo responsible for the mess we are in, we are in the shit we are due to the incompetent management of the investments they have made, this mess is self inflicted.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 27, 2021 10:23:53 GMT
Michael, my bad. Should have just written MON, which is quite an annoyingly ridiculous short form. Funny how much happier I'd be as a Barnsley fan now. From zero last season to this season - oh and Cardiff - transformed after 2 games. Why are we so happy to be in this weird 'long term rebuild' state of mind? What evidence of a rebuild do we have? Apart from the fact that next season we will need a new bunch of freebies, has beens and loans who won't feature much? It’s strange isn’t it! Saw someone saying he needs 5 years 😂😂
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 27, 2021 11:21:33 GMT
Michael, my bad. Should have just written MON, which is quite an annoyingly ridiculous short form. Funny how much happier I'd be as a Barnsley fan now. From zero last season to this season - oh and Cardiff - transformed after 2 games. Why are we so happy to be in this weird 'long term rebuild' state of mind? What evidence of a rebuild do we have? Apart from the fact that next season we will need a new bunch of freebies, has beens and loans who won't feature much? Yes it’s a mess Nick. I think there is every chance we could drop down to League 1 again in the next few years.
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Post by citynickscfc on Feb 27, 2021 17:38:36 GMT
Michael, my bad. Should have just written MON, which is quite an annoyingly ridiculous short form. Funny how much happier I'd be as a Barnsley fan now. From zero last season to this season - oh and Cardiff - transformed after 2 games. Why are we so happy to be in this weird 'long term rebuild' state of mind? What evidence of a rebuild do we have? Apart from the fact that next season we will need a new bunch of freebies, has beens and loans who won't feature much? Yes it’s a mess Nick. I think there is every chance we could drop down to League 1 again in the next few years. Agreed
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Post by FullerMagic on May 10, 2021 13:08:49 GMT
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Post by obhstokie on May 10, 2021 13:12:53 GMT
Lindsay's winning goal on Saturday for Preston ensured that they finished above us in the league...
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Post by FullerMagic on May 10, 2021 13:17:12 GMT
They've given the caretaker manager the job, so that may improve the chances
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 10, 2021 13:41:14 GMT
Fair to say they might struggle next season?
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Post by dirtygary69 on May 10, 2021 14:46:19 GMT
Fair to say they might struggle next season? Certainly wouldn't have them down as challengers with that appointment. They never seem to be able to do anything, do they? They have a bit of a flirt with the play offs every now and then, and then end up in mid-table.
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Post by silsdenstokie on May 10, 2021 15:23:25 GMT
They've given the caretaker manager the job, so that may improve the chances Yep was just thinking that Fingers crossed
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Post by FullerMagic on May 18, 2021 8:04:00 GMT
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Post by potter1989 on May 18, 2021 8:07:19 GMT
This is what we like, let’s get players off the books early
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Post by Clem Fandango on May 18, 2021 8:22:04 GMT
I actually quite liked Lindsay. Shame its not worked out for him here but it would be good if we could get some cash for him.
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Post by pieofpeter on May 18, 2021 8:22:13 GMT
Good luck to him. What do we need to break even with FFP? Prediction for the fee would be 600k-700k with add ons.
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Post by xchpotter on May 18, 2021 9:32:45 GMT
Good news, hope it works out and assists us with FFP. One potentially down, only another half a dozen or so more and we are in business. The process works.😂😂😂
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Post by RF10 on May 18, 2021 10:03:17 GMT
Good luck to him. What do we need to break even with FFP? Prediction for the fee would be 600k-700k with add ons. Got be around that to break even.
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Post by thevoid on May 18, 2021 10:48:05 GMT
Good luck to him.
In terms of our problems and toxic players on the books, he was way down the list. And Preston's about the best he could probably expect.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 18, 2021 10:48:19 GMT
Good luck to him. What do we need to break even with FFP? Prediction for the fee would be 600k-700k with add ons. Got be around that to break even. Make no mistake it’s another indictment of our commercial and recruitment policy significantly less than we speak for him add they to ince to Luton on loan what happens to woods ? Three more serious chickens coming hone TK roost
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 18, 2021 10:50:39 GMT
Got be around that to break even. Make no mistake it’s another indictment of our commercial and recruitment policy significantly less than we speak for him add they to ince to Luton on loan what happens to woods ? Three more serious chickens coming hone TK roost Would you rather we kept them hanging around the training ground like a bad smell then? Bearing in mind no one has yet invented a time machine.
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Post by stokeuk474 on May 18, 2021 10:53:26 GMT
Got be around that to break even. Make no mistake it’s another indictment of our commercial and recruitment policy significantly less than we speak for him add they to ince to Luton on loan what happens to woods ? Three more serious chickens coming hone TK roost What?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 18, 2021 10:56:11 GMT
Make no mistake it’s another indictment of our commercial and recruitment policy significantly less than we speak for him add they to ince to Luton on loan what happens to woods ? Three more serious chickens coming hone TK roost Would you rather we kept them hanging around the training ground like a bad smell then? Bearing in mind no one has yet invented a time machine. No I’d rather we learn the lessons of apologies recruitment and Change the process but we haven’t since lyndsey we’ve signed numerous players and I can’t think of any that have increased in value Brown , fletcher , Mikel , Thomson’, fox , etc
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Post by FullerMagic on May 18, 2021 11:00:58 GMT
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Post by lordb on May 18, 2021 11:02:39 GMT
Would you rather we kept them hanging around the training ground like a bad smell then? Bearing in mind no one has yet invented a time machine. No I’d rather we learn the lessons of apologies recruitment and Change the process but we haven’t since lyndsey we’ve signed numerous players and I can’t think of any that have increased in value Brown , fletcher , Mikel , Thomson’, fox , etc so what do you with Lindsey then? keep him? surely not?
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Post by dirtygary69 on May 18, 2021 11:23:23 GMT
Six figures. So that's definitely over a million loss on him then? What did he cost, was it £2.25M or somewhere like that?
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Post by FullerMagic on May 18, 2021 11:25:54 GMT
Six figures. So that's definitely over a million loss on him then? What did he cost, was it £2.25M or somewhere like that? www.stokecityfc.com/news/five-check-in/2m rising to a possible 2.5 (but wouldn't have thought it had risen at all!)
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Post by dirtygary69 on May 18, 2021 11:30:26 GMT
Six figures. So that's definitely over a million loss on him then? What did he cost, was it £2.25M or somewhere like that? www.stokecityfc.com/news/five-check-in/2m rising to a possible 2.5 (but wouldn't have thought it had risen at all!) Looks like it might have done if this is anything to go by: "The fee could rise to £2.5 Million if Lindsay is a complete sack of shit who ends up being another poor signing"
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Post by chiswickpotter on May 18, 2021 15:33:24 GMT
Good luck to him. What do we need to break even with FFP? Prediction for the fee would be 600k-700k with add ons. FFP not an issue as his contract ends in 2022 so his FFP Accounting cost will be in the books for next season whether he leaves at the start or end of the season. Every penny we get towards his wages never mind a fee goes straight to Improve our bottom line
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