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Post by liathroid on Feb 20, 2021 20:19:33 GMT
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Post by LH_SCFC on Feb 20, 2021 22:52:01 GMT
Gave away a penalty. Caused an almighty mess for the second. And completely at fault for another.
He’s always got a mistake in him - sounds like he’s been saving them up.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 20, 2021 22:54:07 GMT
I mean the rating could be a lot worse, it’s actually a positive write up all things considered!
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Post by meirman61 on Feb 21, 2021 11:38:16 GMT
Why did we let him go ,3 assists for Cardiff today
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Post by biglad180 on Feb 21, 2021 16:42:50 GMT
We should want our players out on loan do well if we want to get them off our hands.
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Post by wilcopotter on Feb 26, 2021 7:36:54 GMT
Noticed Preston lost 4-0 last Saturday with Liam in centre of defence and manager criticising the mistakes being punished at this level. By his team. Wednesday night Liam not even on the bench, so unless he got injured Saturday this does not look good for a permanent switch.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 7:42:16 GMT
Noticed Preston lost 4-0 last Saturday with Liam in centre of defence and manager criticising the mistakes being punished at this level. By his team. Wednesday night Liam not even on the bench, so unless he got injured Saturday this does not look good for a permanent switch. Depends on whether they do rotation for midweek games or for him especially. Having hardly played first team games for a couple of years, with the odd academy game to break up the rhythm of not playing, playing twice weekly might take a while, like it did/does for Chester. But permanent switch looks pretty unlikely anyway.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 26, 2021 8:15:16 GMT
Noticed Preston lost 4-0 last Saturday with Liam in centre of defence and manager criticising the mistakes being punished at this level. By his team. Wednesday night Liam not even on the bench, so unless he got injured Saturday this does not look good for a permanent switch. Another one coming back in the summer, I wonder how many of our loaned out players will end up getting signed permanently by the clubs they are at I will go for 0.
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 26, 2021 8:18:47 GMT
Noticed Preston lost 4-0 last Saturday with Liam in centre of defence and manager criticising the mistakes being punished at this level. By his team. Wednesday night Liam not even on the bench, so unless he got injured Saturday this does not look good for a permanent switch. Think I read somewhere that his manager said he had picked up a minor injury?
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Post by nott1 on Feb 26, 2021 12:26:40 GMT
Noticed Preston lost 4-0 last Saturday with Liam in centre of defence and manager criticising the mistakes being punished at this level. By his team. Wednesday night Liam not even on the bench, so unless he got injured Saturday this does not look good for a permanent switch. Think I read somewhere that his manager said he had picked up a minor injury? I bet he thought thank goodness for that!
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Post by wilcopotter on Feb 26, 2021 13:53:18 GMT
Noticed Preston lost 4-0 last Saturday with Liam in centre of defence and manager criticising the mistakes being punished at this level. By his team. Wednesday night Liam not even on the bench, so unless he got injured Saturday this does not look good for a permanent switch. Another one coming back in the summer, I wonder how many of our loaned out players will end up getting signed permanently by the clubs they are at I will go for 0. If you look at the last 2 goals on the link above, I think he will be back. Unless, he was injured at that point in the game🤷♂️
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Post by spiderpuss on Feb 26, 2021 14:03:14 GMT
Noticed Preston lost 4-0 last Saturday with Liam in centre of defence and manager criticising the mistakes being punished at this level. By his team. Wednesday night Liam not even on the bench, so unless he got injured Saturday this does not look good for a permanent switch. Another one coming back in the summer, I wonder how many of our loaned out players will end up getting signed permanently by the clubs they are at I will go for 0. I guess one won't be coming back - Badou, someone who in normal times we should have got a fee for. As for the rest - I'd say Bruno wont be coming back and that's job done. Although with our current bluffers I'd welcome him back straight away. That leaves us with the other 10 (dear God), of which I think you might be nearly right. Maybe Etebo will leave and some might be signed again (yet another loan). Sadly though we're going to have to go around the process again.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 26, 2021 14:15:40 GMT
Another one coming back in the summer, I wonder how many of our loaned out players will end up getting signed permanently by the clubs they are at I will go for 0. I guess one won't be coming back - Badou, someone who in normal times we should have got a fee for. As for the rest - I'd say Bruno wont be coming back and that's job done. Although with our current bluffers I'd welcome him back straight away. That leaves us with the other 10 (dear God), of which I think you might be nearly right. Maybe Etebo will leave and some might be signed again (yet another loan). Sadly though we're going to have to go around the process again. There are no normal times with our transfer dealings in or out, buy high long contract give away or loan out what an arse about face to run a business no wonder we are teetering on the edge of a points deduction, who decided to let the clowns run the Circus ?
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Post by spiderpuss on Feb 26, 2021 14:24:00 GMT
I guess one won't be coming back - Badou, someone who in normal times we should have got a fee for. As for the rest - I'd say Bruno wont be coming back and that's job done. Although with our current bluffers I'd welcome him back straight away. That leaves us with the other 10 (dear God), of which I think you might be nearly right. Maybe Etebo will leave and some might be signed again (yet another loan). Sadly though we're going to have to go around the process again. There are no normal times with our transfer dealings in or out, buy high long contract give away or loan out what an arse about face to run a business no wonder we are teetering on the edge of a points deduction, who decided to let the clowns run the Circus ? In the long time I've been supporting Stoke I've never known so many players not contributing to SCFC causes. We've had the odd mard-arse over the years, but into double figures of the fuckers is outrageous. It's holding us back massively. A related post suggested recently, we are easily into 6 figures per week of money being burnt on diddly squat. Until these players leave we're doing about the best we can.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 26, 2021 14:27:16 GMT
There are no normal times with our transfer dealings in or out, buy high long contract give away or loan out what an arse about face to run a business no wonder we are teetering on the edge of a points deduction, who decided to let the clowns run the Circus ? In the long time I've been supporting Stoke I've never known so many players not contributing to SCFC causes. We've had the odd mard-arse over the years, but into double figures of the fuckers is outrageous. It's holding us back massively. A related post suggested recently, we are easily into 6 figures of money being burnt on diddly squat. Until these players leave we're doing about the best we can. Astonishingly the men who have overseen this disaster are still in place.
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Post by somersetstokie on Feb 26, 2021 14:29:36 GMT
And we used to worry about Sammy Bangoura!
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Post by skip on Feb 26, 2021 14:38:56 GMT
There are no normal times with our transfer dealings in or out, buy high long contract give away or loan out what an arse about face to run a business no wonder we are teetering on the edge of a points deduction, who decided to let the clowns run the Circus ? In the long time I've been supporting Stoke I've never known so many players not contributing to SCFC causes. We've had the odd mard-arse over the years, but into double figures of the fuckers is outrageous. It's holding us back massively. A related post suggested recently, we are easily into 6 figures of money being burnt on diddly squat. Until these players leave we're doing about the best we can. That is the top and bottom of Stoke City right now and should be the lens through which everything is viewed, from Michael O'Neil's selection and tactics, to the likelihood of a promotion push and everything in between. MON left me confused and frustrated Wednesday night, but I bet his job at the moment is a fucking nightmare.
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 26, 2021 14:47:12 GMT
In the long time I've been supporting Stoke I've never known so many players not contributing to SCFC causes. We've had the odd mard-arse over the years, but into double figures of the fuckers is outrageous. It's holding us back massively. A related post suggested recently, we are easily into 6 figures of money being burnt on diddly squat. Until these players leave we're doing about the best we can. Astonishingly the men who have overseen this disaster are still in place. Well yes, that’s because one of them owns the bloody club. Where are you expecting him to go? I must say I find to very strange how utterly obsessed you are with how billionaires decide to spend their money. Are you interested in football or balance sheets?
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 26, 2021 15:11:13 GMT
Astonishingly the men who have overseen this disaster are still in place. Well yes, that’s because one of them owns the bloody club. Where are you expecting him to go? I must say I find to very strange how utterly obsessed you are with how billionaires decide to spend their money. Are you interested in football or balance sheets? The other one doesn't, we are in this mess on and off the pitch due to the incompetence of those running this shitstorm, football is whether you like it or not is a business we are watching some of the worst football we have ever produced due to the failure of those trusted to oversee it, FFP has restricted how we do our business because of their failures it is inexorably linked between finances and product.
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 26, 2021 15:15:42 GMT
Well yes, that’s because one of them owns the bloody club. Where are you expecting him to go? I must say I find to very strange how utterly obsessed you are with how billionaires decide to spend their money. Are you interested in football or balance sheets? The other one doesn't, we are in this mess on and off the pitch due to the incompetence of those running this shitstorm, football is whether you like it or not is a business we are watching some of the worst football we have ever produced due to the failure of those trusted to oversee it, FFP has restricted how we do our business because of their failures it is inexorably linked between finances and product. It’s not the worst football I’ve ever seen by a long distance. Maybe you are a fan that thought we were going to stay in the Premier League forever?
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 26, 2021 15:33:10 GMT
The other one doesn't, we are in this mess on and off the pitch due to the incompetence of those running this shitstorm, football is whether you like it or not is a business we are watching some of the worst football we have ever produced due to the failure of those trusted to oversee it, FFP has restricted how we do our business because of their failures it is inexorably linked between finances and product. It’s not the worst football I’ve ever seen by a long distance. Maybe you are a fan that thought we were going to stay in the Premier League forever? My first match was in 1967 so no not at all, I was grateful I was able to see my team play in the top flight again under TP, that stay in the PL was allowed to slip away without a whimper by our Board and their bizarre handling of the situation, they sleep walked us into relegation due to their incompetent running of the club on and off the field, they tried in their own amateurish fashion to rectify their mistakes by appointing the wrong manager and allowing him to waste millions on run of the mill mercenaries on long lucrative contracts as they had done with Hughes, as a result we stockpiled players who had/have little or no interest in playing for the club, they have little or no resale values as we have seen, then we employ an absolute lunatic who brings in another shed full of ageing or below standard players again no interest in the club or resale value. BTW considering the investment made in players in the last three years that was one of the worst performances I have witnessed by a Stoke team, this situation lies firmly at the door of our Board and CEO.
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 26, 2021 15:38:42 GMT
It’s not the worst football I’ve ever seen by a long distance. Maybe you are a fan that thought we were going to stay in the Premier League forever? My first match was in 1967 so no not at all, I was grateful I was able to see my team play in the top flight again under TP, that stay in the PL was allowed to slip away without a whimper by our Board and their bizarre handling of the situation, they sleep walked us into relegation due to their incompetent running of the club on and off the field, they tried in their own amateurish fashion to rectify their mistakes by appointing the wrong manager and allowing him to waste millions on run of the mill mercenaries on long lucrative contracts as they had done with Hughes, as a result we stockpiled players who had/have little or no interest in playing for the club, they have little or no resale values as we have seen, then we employ an absolute lunatic who brings in another shed full of ageing or below standard players again no interest in the club or resale value. BTW considering the investment made in players in the last three years that was one of the worst performances I have witnessed by a Stoke team, this situation lies firmly at the door of our Board and CEO.
It’s been done to death. You’ve not written anything there that hasn’t been repeated a thousand times before. It’s boring to read and the people you blame will never read anything that you post which makes it a waste of your time. Maybe send the CEO a carefully worded email instead to get it all off your chest?You can copy and paste his response on here and we can pick the bones out of it? Isn’t sport supposed to be enjoyed? It’s a hobby and in my view your take on things is a particular joyless way to follow a football club.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 26, 2021 15:44:56 GMT
My first match was in 1967 so no not at all, I was grateful I was able to see my team play in the top flight again under TP, that stay in the PL was allowed to slip away without a whimper by our Board and their bizarre handling of the situation, they sleep walked us into relegation due to their incompetent running of the club on and off the field, they tried in their own amateurish fashion to rectify their mistakes by appointing the wrong manager and allowing him to waste millions on run of the mill mercenaries on long lucrative contracts as they had done with Hughes, as a result we stockpiled players who had/have little or no interest in playing for the club, they have little or no resale values as we have seen, then we employ an absolute lunatic who brings in another shed full of ageing or below standard players again no interest in the club or resale value. BTW considering the investment made in players in the last three years that was one of the worst performances I have witnessed by a Stoke team, this situation lies firmly at the door of our Board and CEO.
It’s been done to death. You’ve not written anything there that hasn’t been repeated a thousand times before. It’s boring to read and the people you blame will never read anything that you post which makes it a waste of your time. Maybe send the CEO a carefully worded email instead to get it all off your chest?You can copy and paste his response on here and we can pick the bones out of it? Isn’t sport supposed to be enjoyed? It’s a hobby and in my view your take on things is a particular joyless way to follow a football club. Tried that with no response what a surprise ! if you enjoyed watching that display against Barnsley and many more this season and the previous two then fine crack on happy clapping enjoy
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 26, 2021 15:46:17 GMT
It’s been done to death. You’ve not written anything there that hasn’t been repeated a thousand times before. It’s boring to read and the people you blame will never read anything that you post which makes it a waste of your time. Maybe send the CEO a carefully worded email instead to get it all off your chest?You can copy and paste his response on here and we can pick the bones out of it? Isn’t sport supposed to be enjoyed? It’s a hobby and in my view your take on things is a particular joyless way to follow a football club. Tried that with no response what a surprise ! if you enjoyed watching that display against Barnsley and many more this season and the previous two then fine crack on happy clapping enjoy It was a garbage game of football. Straw man arguments like that are pretty silly really. I’d try him again.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 26, 2021 15:49:55 GMT
Tried that with no response what a surprise ! if you enjoyed watching that display against Barnsley and many more this season and the previous two then fine crack on happy clapping enjoy It was a garbage game of football. Straw man arguments like that are pretty silly really. I’d try him again. Tried twice now seems that with him like with some on here there's no use knocking when there's no one at home.
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 26, 2021 16:02:07 GMT
It was a garbage game of football. Straw man arguments like that are pretty silly really. I’d try him again. Tried twice now seems that with him like with some on here there's no use knocking when there's no one at home. All the more reason to give it a rest then, for your own sanity more than anything else. Maybe take up another hobby like archery or rambling? Or even just follow a successful football club like Manchester City, or even Brentford...I bet their balance sheet is a joy to behold.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 26, 2021 16:09:39 GMT
Tried twice now seems that with him like with some on here there's no use knocking when there's no one at home. All the more reason to give it a rest then, for your own sanity more than anything else. Maybe take up another hobby like archery or rambling? Or even just follow a successful football club like Manchester City, or even Brentford...I bet their balance sheet is a joy to behold. Just been diagnosed today with Rheumatoid Arthritis so archery, rambling etc. is out of the question sadly, why would I want to follow any other club I have been a Stoke fan all my life and will be for what is left of it if that is ok with you, I will never understand why we have fans who are content to sit back clapping like demented seals watching absolute garbage when it has been self inflicted, but each to their own.
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 26, 2021 16:15:52 GMT
All the more reason to give it a rest then, for your own sanity more than anything else. Maybe take up another hobby like archery or rambling? Or even just follow a successful football club like Manchester City, or even Brentford...I bet their balance sheet is a joy to behold. Just been diagnosed today with Rheumatoid Arthritis so archery, rambling etc. is out of the question sadly, why would I want to follow any other club I have been a Stoke fan all my life and will be for what is left of it if that is ok with you, I will never understand why we have fans who are content to sit back clapping like demented seals watching absolute garbage when it has been self inflicted, but each to their own. I’m sorry to read about your condition. No one is “happy clapping”. That’s just a poor response. If you are indeed a Stoke supporter then you’ve seen the club in a much worse position than this, both on and off the pitch. The mistakes have happened, I don’t know why you feel the need to regurgitate the point time and time again?
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Post by lordb on Feb 26, 2021 17:45:49 GMT
In the long time I've been supporting Stoke I've never known so many players not contributing to SCFC causes. We've had the odd mard-arse over the years, but into double figures of the fuckers is outrageous. It's holding us back massively. A related post suggested recently, we are easily into 6 figures of money being burnt on diddly squat. Until these players leave we're doing about the best we can. Astonishingly the men who have overseen this disaster are still in place. Men is plural so incorrect in terms of directly being involved Only Scholes is left
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Post by citynickscfc on Feb 26, 2021 18:19:25 GMT
Just been diagnosed today with Rheumatoid Arthritis so archery, rambling etc. is out of the question sadly, why would I want to follow any other club I have been a Stoke fan all my life and will be for what is left of it if that is ok with you, I will never understand why we have fans who are content to sit back clapping like demented seals watching absolute garbage when it has been self inflicted, but each to their own. I’m sorry to read about your condition. No one is “happy clapping”. That’s just a poor response. If you are indeed a Stoke supporter then you’ve seen the club in a much worse position than this, both on and off the pitch. The mistakes have happened, I don’t know why you feel the need to regurgitate the point time and time again? Different time, different eras, and different downfalls. Your cannot compare one to the other at circumstances change. Our downfall is the equivalent of Amazon suddenly going to the wall and being overtaken by co-op. Our future trajectory is that of a lame mule, and our systems and investment in infrastructure and futures is unbelievable considering both investment and the modernisation of the sport. We are on par with that of Barnsley, Coventry, Sheffield Wednesday, teams who have had no investment for decades. It's just not comparable. I still can't fathom why our accountant is part of the board AND CEO. It's impossible to rid of him. But it's ok, the lads don't have win bonuses so I'm guessing that's where the'desire' falls short Martin.
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