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Post by salfordstokie on Aug 16, 2020 11:39:33 GMT
I've heard some ridiculous things over the last 5 months but this is right up there. For one it cannot be enforced. Not to mention it being another example of the obsurdity of some of the restrictions being imposed on us. Pure madness.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 16, 2020 13:34:38 GMT
The more you read about the broad outlines, the more it does seem an absolute minefield for clubs. And it doesn't exactly sound like much fun. theathletic.co.uk/1996223/2020/08/16/return-fans-coronavirus-project-restart/Probably no non-season ticket holders Probably no away fans. Probably no food and drink One-way systems and perspex screens in toilets. Additional portaloos Max of 30% capacities, but toilet capacity and concourse width may mean as low as 20% at even some Premier League grounds At least a metre between groups of fans. Maximum of 6 fans together, from 2 different households Assigned arrival times for fans Ballots and loyalty point calculation for season ticket holders who may get to only half the games with refunds for games not attended Fans may not be in usual block, let alone seat Temperature checks on arrival Mandatory masks Would it be even worth the club's reopening when they're operating at such reduced capacity? They're operating costs will increase with the introduction of all the new measures and what happens when Boris, after a few matches, decides, nope we're getting too many infections in your area, so your ground is getting locked back down again? It seems like the perfect recipe to make club's MORE financially vulnerable to the situation, rather than less, nevermind the logistical nightmare they'll be presented with trying to administer the entire operation. If the club's said that there wasn't going to be ANY fans allowed into the grounds and all the matches would be pay per view only, would they actually make more profit doing it that way?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 16, 2020 13:56:47 GMT
I'd definitely need to wear a mask when/if I went, you can see the spit leaving my mouth as I'm being an angry bastard.
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Post by westlandstokie on Aug 16, 2020 14:02:23 GMT
Personally I can't understand why anyone would want to attend the match and endure so many possible restrictions Do this...can't do that...put your mask on...sit there and be quiet...don't stand there...turn up at 1pm and sit and wait for kick off...not for me thanks I'm as keen to get back as anyone (ST holder for 40 plus years) but I can't be arsed with all this malarkey Anyway...any readmittance of fans will be short lived as if football gets even a whiff of infection Boris will shut it all down again
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 16, 2020 14:11:51 GMT
Must admit, as it stands, I'm inclined, with a very heavy heart, not to bother with attending next season.
I didn't get a season ticket in the first early bird anyway, so I may not have much of a choice if they've already sold 10k+.
It'll be very weird not to go, but the whole experience seems like it's going to be horrendous, with absolutely no atmosphere and a whole lot of hassle
And I suppose it may be naive to think we'll just be able to pick up as it was in time for the 21/22 season.
Just waiting to see how reasonably priced any streaming options are
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Post by westlandstokie on Aug 16, 2020 14:35:42 GMT
Fullermagic...I'm the same as you mate...did not renew my ST straight away as I always wait until the last minute I don't envy anyone at the Club making the call on who to admit and who not to...either way they are sure to upset a number of fans and risk losing them forever I honestly cannot see the stadium being anywhere near full this coming season at any point One good point from all this is that I've saved a nice amount of money not going home and away games...if it continues like this till the end of the year I will have saved enough "football money" for a nice holiday abroad with the Mrs at Easter 😎 (if the world hasn't ended by then)
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Post by danceswithclams on Aug 16, 2020 14:37:20 GMT
Must admit, as it stands, I'm inclined, with a very heavy heart, not to bother with attending next season. I didn't get a season ticket in the first early bird anyway, so I may not have much of a choice if they've already sold 10k+. It'll be very weird not to go, but the whole experience seems like it's going to be horrendous, with absolutely no atmosphere and a whole lot of hassle And I suppose it may be naive to think we'll just be able to pick up as it was in time for the 21/22 season. Just waiting to see how reasonably priced any streaming options are Exactly how I feel. I won't bother if we're going to be subjected to a clinical, regimented airport check-in routine and all just to sit in a sparsely populated stadium devoid of any atmosphere whatsoever. That's not football.
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Post by neilethere on Aug 16, 2020 16:29:51 GMT
What I can’t understand about all the rules regarding social distancing in sport stadia, pubs cafes etc. when you can all cram onto the London Underground, standing shoulder to shoulder nose to nose with anyone and everyone and nothing is said about it. Everything just seems a load of hypocrisy and as long as it suits the Government it is ok.
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Post by walrus on Aug 16, 2020 20:08:08 GMT
I was pleasantly surprised to see that the fans that were allowed in to the snooker final today were not being made to wear masks.
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Post by Scouse on Aug 16, 2020 20:21:49 GMT
Whilst I think mark wearing is a good idea ., as it reminds people not to be dicks and those that are being dicks what they are ..masks in shops is to enable large supermarkets to reduce their controls on numbers ( and costs ) allowed in their stores .. I.e on the introduction of masks in shops Asda by me immediately relaxed many of their previous restrictions
Back to Bet365 related , couple of issues relating to the toilets in the West upper ( Boothen side ) , they only have one door in ..and the gents was reduced in size to allow the press facilities to be increased when we were in the Europe
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2020 20:41:20 GMT
I was pleasantly surprised to see that the fans that were allowed in to the snooker final today were not being made to wear masks. They have to be worn around the concourse/toilets/entrance and can only be taken off on entry to the auditorium.....
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Post by danceswithclams on Aug 16, 2020 20:44:26 GMT
I was pleasantly surprised to see that the fans that were allowed in to the snooker final today were not being made to wear masks. They have to be worn around the concourse/toilets/entrance If they'd made it compulsory to wear a mask around the old Boothen End bogs no-one would have complained. No-one.
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Post by tpholloway1 on Aug 16, 2020 21:35:01 GMT
They have to be worn around the concourse/toilets/entrance If they'd made it compulsory to wear a mask around the old Boothen End bogs no-one would have complained. No-one. I don't think the virus could have survived in there.
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Post by thehoof on Aug 16, 2020 21:45:06 GMT
Must admit, as it stands, I'm inclined, with a very heavy heart, not to bother with attending next season. I didn't get a season ticket in the first early bird anyway, so I may not have much of a choice if they've already sold 10k+. It'll be very weird not to go, but the whole experience seems like it's going to be horrendous, with absolutely no atmosphere and a whole lot of hassle And I suppose it may be naive to think we'll just be able to pick up as it was in time for the 21/22 season. Just waiting to see how reasonably priced any streaming options are Exactly the case Fuller- I don’t see myself renewing our season tickets when I probably can’t have any say in which games I would be allocated to attend ( I’m assuming the Wife would be allocated the same games), and being told what time to get there! These are clearly not problems of Stoke’s making, but it seems a lot of hassle for something which “ lockdown” has shown to be not that important ( football that is)!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 16, 2020 21:53:48 GMT
I was pleasantly surprised to see that the fans that were allowed in to the snooker final today were not being made to wear masks. What a joke that is.
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 16, 2020 22:01:02 GMT
If they'd made it compulsory to wear a mask around the old Boothen End bogs no-one would have complained. No-one. I don't think the virus could have survived in there. It was like a cesspit of eye watering stale piss. I still miss it though.
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Post by danceswithclams on Aug 16, 2020 22:07:38 GMT
I don't think the virus could have survived in there. It was like a cesspit of eye watering stale piss. I still miss it though. I can still taste it.
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Post by chuckrocky on Aug 16, 2020 22:11:25 GMT
What happens at full time? Can everyone there just get up and leave or are they staggering exits too?
Seems daft to give people time slots to arrive but everyone can leave en mass at full time.
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Post by stokeykez on Aug 17, 2020 10:43:49 GMT
I was pleasantly surprised to see that the fans that were allowed in to the snooker final today were not being made to wear masks. They have to be worn around the concourse/toilets/entrance and can only be taken off on entry to the auditorium..... Exactly and the noise they made on the introduction of the players for the first time, shouting and whooping. All a load of crap I'm afraid, another way of this govt trying to control the masses. If we wear a mask, sit 2 metres away and in particular we are all facing the back of someone's head then why singing cannot be involved I will never know. They are not going to try and throw out crowds are they.
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Post by stubbo1 on Aug 17, 2020 10:54:03 GMT
I bought Early Bird. I’m 65 and have a 230 mile round trip 🤦♀️ I hope I can get a refund ?
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Post by Trouserdog on Aug 17, 2020 10:58:22 GMT
Must admit, as it stands, I'm inclined, with a very heavy heart, not to bother with attending next season. I didn't get a season ticket in the first early bird anyway, so I may not have much of a choice if they've already sold 10k+. It'll be very weird not to go, but the whole experience seems like it's going to be horrendous, with absolutely no atmosphere and a whole lot of hassle And I suppose it may be naive to think we'll just be able to pick up as it was in time for the 21/22 season. Just waiting to see how reasonably priced any streaming options are I'm the same. Can't be arsed with the hassle and would rather pay £10 a match to watch it from the comfort of my living room. Not bothered if those who've already paid up-front get to go in my place. Fair play to them for shelling out £400 when this was on the horizon.
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Post by Squeekster on Aug 17, 2020 11:02:14 GMT
I suppose the issue will be, will it be cost effective to have stadia two thirds empty and no refreshments on sale and staff and stewards on duty just may as well keep shut until we can get back to the way we were.
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Post by scfcbrian on Aug 17, 2020 14:12:18 GMT
Are you seriously suggesting FM that we probably wont have full stadiums as nornal come August 2021? I personally think we could have full stadiums for the run in of this up and coming season, surely it's very pessimistic though to suggest in around 12 months time we still wont have full stadiums Must admit, as it stands, I'm inclined, with a very heavy heart, not to bother with attending next season. I didn't get a season ticket in the first early bird anyway, so I may not have much of a choice if they've already sold 10k+. It'll be very weird not to go, but the whole experience seems like it's going to be horrendous, with absolutely no atmosphere and a whole lot of hassle And I suppose it may be naive to think we'll just be able to pick up as it was in time for the 21/22 season. Just waiting to see how reasonably priced any streaming options are
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Post by wagsastokie on Aug 17, 2020 14:22:54 GMT
What happens at full time? Can everyone there just get up and leave or are they staggering exits too? Seems daft to give people time slots to arrive but everyone can leave en mass at full time. Half of them will be gone around eighty minutes anyway
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 17, 2020 14:32:56 GMT
Are you seriously suggesting FM that we probably wont have full stadiums as nornal come August 2021? I personally think we could have full stadiums for the run in of this up and coming season, surely it's very pessimistic though to suggest in around 12 months time we still wont have full stadiums Must admit, as it stands, I'm inclined, with a very heavy heart, not to bother with attending next season. I didn't get a season ticket in the first early bird anyway, so I may not have much of a choice if they've already sold 10k+. It'll be very weird not to go, but the whole experience seems like it's going to be horrendous, with absolutely no atmosphere and a whole lot of hassle And I suppose it may be naive to think we'll just be able to pick up as it was in time for the 21/22 season. Just waiting to see how reasonably priced any streaming options are Hope you're right, Brian. Very hard to know, isn't it? Who knows what the situation will look like in 3 months or 6 months?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 17, 2020 14:38:48 GMT
What happens at full time? Can everyone there just get up and leave or are they staggering exits too? Seems daft to give people time slots to arrive but everyone can leave en mass at full time. I asked this question earlier in the thread. If you're going to have staggered arrivals, then you clearly have to have staggered departures. Do they seriously think that football supporters are going to sit patiently in their seats at the end of a game, waiting for their row to be called? And what happens if somebody wants to leave on 88 minutes, are they going to be told to get back in their seat? "But I need to go to the toilet " "Don't believe you, you're just trying to leave before it's your turn ... sit back down!" 🙄
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 17, 2020 14:58:55 GMT
Glad that clubs and authorities are thinking about ways of getting people back in the grounds as safe as possible, it makes sense. People are free to make their own decisions of course. Would I go - yes probably.
Don't forget that a lot of people, some on this thread, didn't think they could get football back on and finish the season. They did, successfully I think. I'd like to think they could get people into grounds.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Aug 17, 2020 16:06:42 GMT
I don't believe this story has any factual basis. You will see that in my post which started this thread, I referred to a sentence in the SGSA draft guide for supporters which said that we should "take care" when singing or shouting, and I asked with an amused emoji how one would do that. I think this "story" which The Sentinel has rehashed from the Mail, is to put it politely, an exaggeration of that document, or to put it less politely, total nonsense. Of course it's an absurdity to imagine that such a rule could ever be enforced, or that the authorities would be silly enough to try to impose such a condition on entry.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 17, 2020 16:48:22 GMT
I'd definitely need to wear a mask when/if I went, you can see the spit leaving my mouth as I'm being an angry bastard. You’re probably in more danger from a flying pie 😉
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Post by ChesterStokie on Aug 17, 2020 16:51:06 GMT
I don't believe this story has any factual basis. You will see that in my post which started this thread, I referred to a sentence in the SGSA draft guide for supporters which said that we should "take care" when singing or shouting, and I asked with an amused emoji how one would do that. I think this "story" which The Sentinel has rehashed from the Mail, is to put it politely, an exaggeration of that document, or to put it less politely, total nonsense. Of course it's an absurdity to imagine that such a rule could ever be enforced, or that the authorities would be silly enough to try to impose such a condition on entry. I think the use of the word 'could' is the get-out clause for the journalist needing to find a story.
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