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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 3, 2021 19:54:31 GMT
Like Brown Diouf had his limitations but he never seemed to get a fair crack at the whip in the Championship. Could have saved ourselves a lot of money keeping him and not buying Afobe and Vokes. Always thought he had a great attitude considering how much he was messed around and what happened in his personal life.
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Post by theonlooker on Apr 3, 2021 20:34:48 GMT
You can only assume, after reading Wimmer's piece, that a club decision was taken to give him less games to ultimately get his wages off the books. Shame really as I agree with you. Think he could and would have easily hit 15+ in the Championship. What has Wimmer said? Just that he was signed by Hughes and every manager since he was sacked has pretty much blanked him and since relegation every manager has said they don't want him, and have told him to find a new club Probably not the best comparison with Diouf though, but a bit odd that they have all not at least tried to use him at all.
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Post by dudnostokie on Apr 3, 2021 20:49:53 GMT
You can't discount the wage issue though we had to cut some loose. With what happened in the previous two seasons the two parties were always going to separate, after becoming a bit part player Diouf needed a new challenge. He was criminally under used....... OK, but then go on to spend £12.5M on Afobe, £10M on Ince and £9M on Vokes seems a bit strange to me!? All three of these were good signings on paper. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, we had the cash from parachute payments and we got taken advantage of. I certainly wasn't complaining when we signed any of them.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 3, 2021 21:03:01 GMT
You can't discount the wage issue though we had to cut some loose. With what happened in the previous two seasons the two parties were always going to separate, after becoming a bit part player Diouf needed a new challenge. He was criminally under used....... OK, but then go on to spend £12.5M on Afobe, £10M on Ince and £9M on Vokes seems a bit strange to me!? I think at that point there was too much water under the bridge for Diouf and I don't think his heart would have been in it. I don't actually blame him as he put a lot of blood, sweat and tears into his Stoke career early on and the way it ended wasn't good at all.......
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 3, 2021 21:03:22 GMT
Big gap in the middle of the park, where's Galatasary's defensive midfielder? I'll say it for the 86th time, for all his faults if we'd have played Diouf in his natural position week in week out he'd have scored 10-12 a season in the Premier League and 15-18 in the Championship....... Probably why you said it but isn’t their defensive midfielder Etebo? Yes.......
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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 3, 2021 21:05:42 GMT
OK, but then go on to spend £12.5M on Afobe, £10M on Ince and £9M on Vokes seems a bit strange to me!? I think at that point there was too much water under the bridge for Diouf and I don't think his heart would have been in it. I don't actually blame him as he put a lot of blood, sweat and tears into his Stoke career early on and the way it ended wasn't good at all....... Strange how he went from hero to zero in no time actually.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 4, 2021 7:29:25 GMT
Just that he was signed by Hughes and every manager since he was sacked has pretty much blanked him and since relegation every manager has said they don't want him, and have told him to find a new club Probably not the best comparison with Diouf though, but a bit odd that they have all not at least tried to use him at all. Fair to say Wimmer is the poster boy for the failings of recent years but the strange ignoring of Diouf is ridiculous when you think that during that time managers have valued anf given more game time to the likes of Afobe, Berahino, Hogan, Vokes and Gregory. Even O'Neill threw him in, watched him score then never used him again
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Post by J-Roar on Apr 4, 2021 7:35:20 GMT
It's Grace Jones!
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Post by TinkerT on Apr 4, 2021 8:09:50 GMT
It is absolutely shameful how we treated him, and leaves a really foul taste in the mouth. Mame always gave his all, even when played out of position and when used up front found himself in some very good positions (though often his touch let him down), I'm certain he would have notched at least ten a season with a good run of games. Disgusting from those involved, though I'm buzzing that he's ending his career amongst the goals. Good luck to him. The thing what pissed me off was everything going on in his personal life and he still turned up and gave his 100% in a Stoke shirt. The way he was treated was very Unstoke like, look at how we treated higgy and Rory when they got injured.
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Post by theonlooker on Apr 4, 2021 8:49:31 GMT
Just that he was signed by Hughes and every manager since he was sacked has pretty much blanked him and since relegation every manager has said they don't want him, and have told him to find a new club Probably not the best comparison with Diouf though, but a bit odd that they have all not at least tried to use him at all. Fair to say Wimmer is the poster boy for the failings of recent years but the strange ignoring of Diouf is ridiculous when you think that during that time managers have valued anf given more game time to the likes of Afobe, Berahino, Hogan, Vokes and Gregory. Even O'Neill threw him in, watched him score then never used him again I know Dave. It really has baffled me too. Either it's a club decision to get him and his wages off the books, the lad himself has chucked the towel in (hard to believe) and wanted to go, or there was some trigger in his contract somewhere.
On the wages front though, the money we've chucked at the likes of Vokes and Afobe et al...surely that would eclipse what Diouf was earning post relegation drop? I really don't know.
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Post by metalhead on Apr 4, 2021 12:35:12 GMT
Glad he's doing well. Another mistake though...
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Post by liathroid on Apr 10, 2021 12:56:23 GMT
another 2 goals today , but lost 3 2
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 10, 2021 13:03:27 GMT
2 nice headers.
He's having a great season
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Post by Gary Hackett on Apr 10, 2021 13:04:37 GMT
2 nice headers. He's having a great season Sickening isn't it. He's far better than the options we currently have.
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Post by nott1 on Apr 10, 2021 13:06:24 GMT
4th top scorer in the league this season!
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 10, 2021 13:08:10 GMT
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Post by xchpotter on Apr 10, 2021 13:10:34 GMT
Diouf seemed to score a few headers on his highlights clips before Stoke and is obviously no mug in the air, but i don’t recall too many of his goals being headers for us. I’m sure he must I’ve scored headers for Stoke, but I don’t think we played that way, or if we did we were poor at getting crosses for heading in.
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Post by nott1 on Apr 10, 2021 13:10:51 GMT
Wow. We kept Vokes and let him go
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Apr 10, 2021 13:12:52 GMT
4th top scorer in the league this season! To be fair,Hugo rodallega is 8th top scorer.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 10, 2021 13:16:12 GMT
Diouf seemed to score a few headers on his highlights clips before Stoke and is obviously no mug in the air, but i don’t recall too many of his goals being headers for us. I’m sure he must I’ve scored headers for Stoke, but I don’t think we played that way, or if we did we were poor at getting crosses for heading in. Diouf is excellent in the air. And used to win his fair share when we were defending corners/set pieces as well.....
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Post by citynickscfc on Apr 10, 2021 21:14:56 GMT
Funny how we are alienating the high wages guys yet Joe Allen....
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Post by Gifton on Apr 10, 2021 21:20:53 GMT
I still dnot get why everyone calls him Mama, it's not his name.
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Post by tosh on Apr 10, 2021 22:07:52 GMT
Diouf seemed to score a few headers on his highlights clips before Stoke and is obviously no mug in the air, but i don’t recall too many of his goals being headers for us. I’m sure he must I’ve scored headers for Stoke, but I don’t think we played that way, or if we did we were poor at getting crosses for heading in. Diouf is excellent in the air. And used to win his fair share when we were defending corners/set pieces as well..... Diouf was a good header of the ball. An example is this one against Wigan - correction West Ham - just after his mother died. He got a number of those in his top scorer season. I think he is still nowprobably better than Vokes. 15 goals in 31 games for Hatayspor, I think, making him one of the league’s top scorers
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 10, 2021 22:11:17 GMT
Diouf is excellent in the air. And used to win his fair share when we were defending corners/set pieces as well..... Diouf was a good header of the ball. An example is this one against Wigan just after his mother died. He got a number of those in his top scorer season. I think he is still nowprobably better than Vokes. 15 goals in 31 games for Hatayspor, I think, making him one of the league’s top scorers Loved that goal, bullet header......
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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 27, 2021 20:33:06 GMT
Another brace tonight! Why didn't any of Rowet or Jones give him a fair chance!?
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Post by banksisgod on Apr 27, 2021 20:47:46 GMT
.....because they probably checked on here to see what the fans thought of him, and decided that he was an absolutely shite, headless chicken, with no discernible talent for the game of Association Football.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 27, 2021 21:03:35 GMT
.....because they probably checked on here to see what the fans thought of him, and decided that he was an absolutely shite, headless chicken, with no discernible talent for the game of Association Football. Do people actually believe crap like this when they type it?
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Post by barrythe on Apr 27, 2021 21:21:59 GMT
Good on him, Diouf deserves to have a bit of fortune after we've dragged him down with us. He has a great attitude of which I wish most our current crop of lads had.
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Post by nott1 on Apr 28, 2021 6:15:51 GMT
Another brace tonight! Why didn't any of Rowet or Jones give him a fair chance!? Because they hadn't the slightest clue how to manage a football team?
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Post by banksisgod on Apr 28, 2021 7:22:35 GMT
Dear bayernoatcake, If you think that my comment above represents ME being critical of Mama's ability, try reading it again. If that fails, try again.....then again.....then again.....
For the record, for several years, Mama was everything that was good about the club; he was treated like shit, yet he tried his guts out, even on those increasingly rare occasions when he got on the pitch (usually in a position that was alien to him), and he always had a smile for everyone.
A small piece of advise; try not to rush to judgement on other people's comment until you fully understand what they are saying. It makes you look like a bit of a dick.
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