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Butland
Oct 7, 2020 23:27:04 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 7, 2020 23:27:04 GMT
Who actually thought Lee Grant would go to Manchester United. Yes when man utd wanted a Keeper they bought Grant not butland That's totally irrelevant. United wanted a third choice keeper who would make up the numbers, this is a totally different situation.
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Oct 7, 2020 23:42:07 GMT
Yes when man utd wanted a Keeper they bought Grant not butland That's totally irrelevant. United wanted a third choice keeper who would make up the numbers, this is a totally different situation. If man utd had thought butland was any good and a prospect for the future they would have got him them.
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Oct 7, 2020 23:42:29 GMT
I wish nothing but the best of luck to Butland. Yes, he's had an extended dip in form, but that can happen to a lot of athletes during a career. Had he purposely performed or acted poorly to the detriment of the club, that would be a different story. He seems an honest and straight-forward individual who would benefit from a change in scenery.
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Butland
Oct 7, 2020 23:52:45 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 7, 2020 23:52:45 GMT
That's totally irrelevant. United wanted a third choice keeper who would make up the numbers, this is a totally different situation. If man utd had thought butland was any good and a prospect for the future they would have got him them. They weren't looking to spend millions on a keeper for the future though were they. They wanted a cheap keeper at the end of his career to make up the numbers and who'd probably never play just as Grant hasn't.
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Butland
Oct 7, 2020 23:55:47 GMT
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Oct 7, 2020 23:55:47 GMT
If man utd had thought butland was any good and a prospect for the future they would have got him them. They weren't looking to spend millions on a keeper for the future though were they. They wanted a cheap keeper at the end of his career to make up the numbers and who'd probably never play just as Grant hasn't. They have the money, butland wasn't good enough
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Post by Praetorian on Oct 8, 2020 2:33:08 GMT
They weren't looking to spend millions on a keeper for the future though were they. They wanted a cheap keeper at the end of his career to make up the numbers and who'd probably never play just as Grant hasn't. They have the money, butland wasn't good enough How obtuse
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Butland
Oct 8, 2020 3:19:16 GMT
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Post by s7oke on Oct 8, 2020 3:19:16 GMT
I wish nothing but the best of luck to Butland. Yes, he's had an extended dip in form, but that can happen to a lot of athletes during a career. Had he purposely performed or acted poorly to the detriment of the club, that would be a different story. He seems an honest and straight-forward individual who would benefit from a change in scenery. Yes and it wouldn’t do his confidence any good with all that shit stood in front of him.
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 8, 2020 10:48:24 GMT
www.footballinsider247.com/revealed-door-opens-for-liverpool-to-sign-goalkeeper-after-big-development/A recruitment source has told Football Insider that Liverpool are plotting a swoop for Butland as they look at Championship keepers proven in the Premier League.
The domestic window is open until Friday of next week and allows trading between top-flight and EFL clubs.
Stoke are ready to green light the departure of Butland as they look to get a high earner off their wage bill.
Football Insider revealed last weekend they had opened talks with Southampton over a potential swap deal involving Butland and Augus Gunn.
That is a deal that could still be completed in the domestic window, although potential Liverpool interest may be a gamechanger for the nine-times England international.
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Butland
Oct 8, 2020 10:51:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 10:51:18 GMT
They weren't looking to spend millions on a keeper for the future though were they. They wanted a cheap keeper at the end of his career to make up the numbers and who'd probably never play just as Grant hasn't. They have the money, butland wasn't good enough Rubbish
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Post by scubastevetokie on Oct 8, 2020 11:08:07 GMT
They weren't looking to spend millions on a keeper for the future though were they. They wanted a cheap keeper at the end of his career to make up the numbers and who'd probably never play just as Grant hasn't. They have the money, butland wasn't good enough Honestly that’s such a shortsighted view of the reality At that period in time Butlands stock was still Very high and we turned down some very large offers for him. He would not have gone to manure as 3rd or 2nd choice! At that time he believed (however deluded this has turned out to be) he was good enough to be the no.1 for a top 6 club. Now the situation has changed his stock is rock bottom and he will be willing to play 2nd fiddle at a club in the pram hoping he gets his chance to shine! A club like Liverpool with their current goal keeping situation is an absolute golden ticket for the lad. I personally think he can regain his form and there is still (buried deep deep underground) a very good keeper in there with age on his side. Yes he has been poor but always professional and always seemed a really nice guy! Good luck to him
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Butland
Oct 8, 2020 13:36:53 GMT
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Oct 8, 2020 13:36:53 GMT
Looks as though that’s the Liverpool rumour settled.
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Post by bgreen13 on Oct 8, 2020 13:40:03 GMT
Looks as though that’s the Liverpool rumour settled. He looks about 12 😂
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Butland
Oct 8, 2020 13:40:53 GMT
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Post by apb1979 on Oct 8, 2020 13:40:53 GMT
Looks as though that’s the Liverpool rumour settled. He’s 17 years old.
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Butland
Oct 8, 2020 14:00:23 GMT
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Post by werrington on Oct 8, 2020 14:00:23 GMT
Looks as though that’s the Liverpool rumour settled. I’m as close to the Liverpool first team as that lad Like we do they’ve bought him for their academy etc
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Butland
Oct 8, 2020 14:02:09 GMT
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Post by realstokebloke on Oct 8, 2020 14:02:09 GMT
Can't believe he's in the frame for the No. 2 spot.
Academy fodder.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 8, 2020 16:44:41 GMT
Who actually thought Lee Grant would go to Manchester United. Yes when man utd wanted a Keeper they bought Grant not butland They got grant on a free transfer as 3rd choice. Jack would have cost 20-30m at that time. Them going for grant was no reflection on butlands ability.
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Butland
Oct 8, 2020 18:39:57 GMT
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Post by Robo10 on Oct 8, 2020 18:39:57 GMT
Grant also ticked an important 'English'/'Home grown' element for Utd in Europe, same as Man City do with Lee Camp (I think?), Chelsea and Arsenal do the same
English, cheap, experienced bench sitters.
Shame for Grant despite the payday as was a decent keeper with games to play
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 8, 2020 20:58:21 GMT
Love how this Butland-Liverpool story has essentially spiralled solely from an article where Paul Robinson said it'd be a good idea, even though I haven't seen anything to suggest they even want a new keeper? In from 10 to 4 now 6/4
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Post by skip on Oct 9, 2020 0:22:13 GMT
Is "glovesman" (apropos article a few posts above) now a 'thing'? I sincerely hope not.
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Post by hotpot on Oct 9, 2020 2:11:21 GMT
Liverpool must be mad or stupid to sign Butland.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2020 7:17:09 GMT
Liverpool must be mad or stupid to sign Butland. It's actually a very shrewd move if they do. They would be getting him cheap and yes he's at a low point in his career, but surely a move to Anfield would give Butland a huge boost? I think it would be a very good move for both.
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Post by Veritas on Oct 9, 2020 7:52:49 GMT
Liverpool must be mad or stupid to sign Butland. It's actually a very shrewd move if they do. They would be getting him cheap and yes he's at a low point in his career, but surely a move to Anfield would give Butland a huge boost? I think it would be a very good move for both. Not sure about that, if Jack made a mistake playing for Liverpool it would be disected in great detail on MoTD and would be the final nail in the coffin of his career.
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 9, 2020 8:00:53 GMT
Adrian is out of contract this summer - so suppose that would give them a bit of scope to move on from him.
But haven't really seen any suggestion it's being seriously considered?
And if they were after a new back-up keeper to cover Alisson's absence, why wouldn't they have signed one before the Champions League registration deadline which was apparently Tuesday?
Half the games he'll miss are in the Champs League.
It'd be asking a lot to chuck Butland into Prem action, and expect him to be an Adrian upgrade, with him not having played for 3 months - with Adrian still having to play in the Champs League anyway.
It'd be a nice story if it happened, but still waiting for a serious hint it's even being considered....
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Post by Gods on Oct 9, 2020 8:05:26 GMT
Is "glovesman" (apropos article a few posts above) now a 'thing'? I sincerely hope not. 'Glovesman' OUCH !!
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Post by lawrieleslie on Oct 9, 2020 8:11:12 GMT
Is "glovesman" (apropos article a few posts above) now a 'thing'? I sincerely hope not. 'Glovesman' OUCH !! I’m sure Foxy would have loved that accolade back in the day.
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 9, 2020 8:12:51 GMT
Is there really an interest from Lpool in Butland or is this really just lazy journalism?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 9, 2020 8:21:30 GMT
Is there really an interest from Lpool in Butland or is this really just lazy journalism? Normally when a rumour has no foundation in truth, the club allegedly interested in signing a player acts pretty quickly to quash the rumour. Given that Liverpool have not quashed the rumour, I assume that they are looking for a new keeper and that Butland is possibly on the list - but I wouldn't go any further than that. A week today and we'll see who (if anyone) they sign.
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 9, 2020 8:37:04 GMT
Is there really an interest from Lpool in Butland or is this really just lazy journalism? Normally when a rumour has no foundation in truth, the club allegedly interested in signing a player acts pretty quickly to quash the rumour. Given that Liverpool have not quashed the rumour, I assume that they are looking for a new keeper and that Butland is possibly on the list - but I wouldn't go any further than that. A week today and we'll see who (if anyone) they sign. Let us hope this comes true, not only for the club, but for Butland as well! Should be a cheap risk for Lpool as I don't think we'll get more than £3-5M for him.
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Post by Gods on Oct 9, 2020 8:39:26 GMT
I’m sure Foxy would have loved that accolade back in the day. The one and only time it was truly applicable !
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 9, 2020 9:25:18 GMT
Normally when a rumour has no foundation in truth, the club allegedly interested in signing a player acts pretty quickly to quash the rumour. Given that Liverpool have not quashed the rumour, I assume that they are looking for a new keeper and that Butland is possibly on the list - but I wouldn't go any further than that. A week today and we'll see who (if anyone) they sign. Let us hope this comes true, not only for the club, but for Butland as well! Should be a cheap risk for Lpool as I don't think we'll get more than £3-5M for him. Agreed - as he is in the last year of his contract, the logical thing is for Liverpool to pay us a very few £million and take over his contract to the end of the season. Then either Liverpool offer him a new contract or he moves on a free with, hopefully, a CV which is considerably improved over what it is at the moment.
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