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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2021 17:10:06 GMT
Still hard to believe that there are people here who think our POTY wont be missed... Seems to be certain trait with them though. Used to have one sat behind me until someone had enough of him with the same rubbish every week and he was never seen again.
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 12, 2021 17:11:45 GMT
We all know why the abuse is channelled towards MClean, because he chooses not to wear a poppy as is his right....... It's not just about not wearing a poppy is it tho. And you are insulting many people claiming that is the reason why when they do have an issue with his actions. Let's list just a few facts why many people might take issue with him. He has stated publicly that Martin McGuinness was his hero (who forget hiding behind a political wall was a terrorist godfather who sanctioned the murderers of hundreds of british civilians). He claims himself a proud fenian (the original brotherhood became the IRA) He posted a social media post of himself wearing our clubs shirt whilst quoting a convicted IRA terrorist. Purposely walked from the tunnel to the dug out during remembrance minutes silence v Boro. Why would he do that but to bring attention? Called a section of our support, uneducated caveman. The balaclava incident, while I'm sure he did it in jest he knew exactly what he was doing and that it would upset many British people. Am sure MON was delighted with that during a pandemic lockdown. I accept his background and the stance he takes with the poppy. Puzzling as to why he chose to play his trade in a nation he detests but that's his choice. He is marmite, anyone who wishes to fully support him that's fine but stop with the abuse "poppy police" "lack of intelligence etc" and accept people have issues with his stance and the above are reasons whether right or wrong that he brings abuse on himself. There are many Stoke supporters who will be thankful of the day he leaves our club. So you are saying he deserves to get abused which is what the article is about? Where has he said he detests England? Many of us fight against what we think are injustices but that doesn't mean we deserve abuse? I think he raises an interesting and valid question about what is deemed acceptable, in terms of abuse, or not?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2021 17:19:53 GMT
Still hard to believe that there are people here who think our POTY wont be missed... Seems to be certain trait with them though. Used to have one sat behind me until someone had enough of him with the same rubbish every week and he was never seen again. Where abouts did you sit?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 12, 2021 17:35:28 GMT
It's not just about not wearing a poppy is it tho. And you are insulting many people claiming that is the reason why when they do have an issue with his actions. Let's list just a few facts why many people might take issue with him. He has stated publicly that Martin McGuinness was his hero (who forget hiding behind a political wall was a terrorist godfather who sanctioned the murderers of hundreds of british civilians). He claims himself a proud fenian (the original brotherhood became the IRA) He posted a social media post of himself wearing our clubs shirt whilst quoting a convicted IRA terrorist. Purposely walked from the tunnel to the dug out during remembrance minutes silence v Boro. Why would he do that but to bring attention? Called a section of our support, uneducated caveman. The balaclava incident, while I'm sure he did it in jest he knew exactly what he was doing and that it would upset many British people. Am sure MON was delighted with that during a pandemic lockdown. I accept his background and the stance he takes with the poppy. Puzzling as to why he chose to play his trade in a nation he detests but that's his choice. He is marmite, anyone who wishes to fully support him that's fine but stop with the abuse "poppy police" "lack of intelligence etc" and accept people have issues with his stance and the above are reasons whether right or wrong that he brings abuse on himself. There are many Stoke supporters who will be thankful of the day he leaves our club. So you are saying he deserves to get abused which is what the article is about? Where has he said he detests England? Many of us fight against what we think are injustices but that doesn't mean we deserve abuse? I think he raises an interesting and valid question about what is deemed acceptable, in terms of abuse, or not? Agree with this......
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 12, 2021 17:50:32 GMT
Yawn.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 12, 2021 17:51:24 GMT
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Post by creweoatcake1 on Feb 12, 2021 17:51:30 GMT
Correct. I'll break open a bottle of champagne when he leaves our club. The fact that he's been our POTY says more about our decline than him. After a Michelin star three course meal of Bojan, Arnie and Shaq we're now eating spaghetti hoops on toast. "Spaghetti hoops on toast" Are you really sure he's that good?
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 12, 2021 17:53:07 GMT
Very! Scratched my balls for a bit, had a nap, then scratched my arse for a bit!
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 12, 2021 17:53:36 GMT
Very! Scratched my balls for a bit, had a nap, then scratched my arse for a bit! Hope you've washed your hands......
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Post by rambo61 on Feb 12, 2021 17:54:17 GMT
Forget the political shit and remember saturdays miss...He is wank!!!
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Post by thevoid on Feb 12, 2021 17:56:48 GMT
he is at it again and quoting bobby sands..... he is seriously deluded, he gets abuse because he opens himself up too it quoting bobby sands, calling stoke fans cunts (how he kept his job is amazing), wearing a ballie and claiming he is giving his kids a history lesson. he really is the pits and is taking the piss out of us while collecting a wage from a country he seems to hate it will be a nice easy sigh when he leaves, he courts controversy and i believe revels in it as it keeps him relevant, his football certainly doesnt sparkle much To many on the other side of the divide Sands is a hero, that might not be particularly palatable but it's true. To them it would be no more distasteful than quoting Winston Churchill in Ireland..... If that's the case, perhaps people who quote Bobby Sands need educating as to why doing so would be considered offensive and distasteful by some people, a bit similar to the discussions being had about Churchill last year? It works both ways.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2021 17:57:17 GMT
Forget the political shit and remember saturdays miss...He is wank!!! But he does give a lot of money to charity, not that he likes to talk about it of course....
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Post by creweoatcake1 on Feb 12, 2021 17:59:14 GMT
Let's face it; however they try to dress it up, there are people on here - everyone knows who they are - cannot get beyond the politics surrounding James McClean. Football simply doesn't come into it with these people, and James's contribution to charities (Donna Louise Trust etc.) is not considered, or is conveniently ignored. He is the Club's Player-of-the-Season, and runs himself to a standstill every time he puts on the shirt. Guaranteed. How many others can promise that? He gives more to the club and the community than some of the one-eyed fuckers on here, that's for sure. You really need to think about that! Without getting into the politics of all this. What right do you have to call anyone on here a "one eyed f****r" ... Why is your opinion any more relevant than anyone else's?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 12, 2021 18:07:12 GMT
To many on the other side of the divide Sands is a hero, that might not be particularly palatable but it's true. To them it would be no more distasteful than quoting Winston Churchill in Ireland..... If that's the case, perhaps people who quote Bobby Sands need educating as to why doing so would be considered offensive and distasteful by some people, a bit similar to the discussions being had about Churchill last year? It works both ways. That goes without saying....,
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Post by hardcastle on Feb 12, 2021 18:26:01 GMT
It's not just about not wearing a poppy is it tho. And you are insulting many people claiming that is the reason why when they do have an issue with his actions. Let's list just a few facts why many people might take issue with him. He has stated publicly that Martin McGuinness was his hero (who forget hiding behind a political wall was a terrorist godfather who sanctioned the murderers of hundreds of british civilians). He claims himself a proud fenian (the original brotherhood became the IRA) He posted a social media post of himself wearing our clubs shirt whilst quoting a convicted IRA terrorist. Purposely walked from the tunnel to the dug out during remembrance minutes silence v Boro. Why would he do that but to bring attention? Called a section of our support, uneducated caveman. The balaclava incident, while I'm sure he did it in jest he knew exactly what he was doing and that it would upset many British people. Am sure MON was delighted with that during a pandemic lockdown. I accept his background and the stance he takes with the poppy. Puzzling as to why he chose to play his trade in a nation he detests but that's his choice. He is marmite, anyone who wishes to fully support him that's fine but stop with the abuse "poppy police" "lack of intelligence etc" and accept people have issues with his stance and the above are reasons whether right or wrong that he brings abuse on himself. There are many Stoke supporters who will be thankful of the day he leaves our club. So you are saying he deserves to get abused which is what the article is about? Where has he said he detests England? Many of us fight against what we think are injustices but that doesn't mean we deserve abuse? I think he raises an interesting and valid question about what is deemed acceptable, in terms of abuse, or not? We SHOULD be speaking out against injustices, though, shouldn't we? And John Hulme of the SDLP led that campaign, not the IRA. The tragedy being that the Heath government, because of its strong political association with the UUP, didn't take its lead from Hulme and we ended up with thirty years of tit for tat as the extremists on either side made the middle ground irrelevant.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2021 18:36:02 GMT
Seems to be certain trait with them though. Used to have one sat behind me until someone had enough of him with the same rubbish every week and he was never seen again. Where abouts did you sit? This was the East Stand whatever was called at the time. Got better seats the next season anyway
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 12, 2021 18:38:18 GMT
Is this James' last season in a Stoke kit? I guess MON has bought Doughty to fill in at this position? Is James too expensive to be a bench player?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2021 18:40:34 GMT
Where abouts did you sit? This was the East Stand whatever was called at the time. Got better seats the next season anyway yes of course
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Post by hyaduck on Feb 12, 2021 20:22:31 GMT
It's not just about not wearing a poppy is it tho. And you are insulting many people claiming that is the reason why when they do have an issue with his actions. Let's list just a few facts why many people might take issue with him. He has stated publicly that Martin McGuinness was his hero (who forget hiding behind a political wall was a terrorist godfather who sanctioned the murderers of hundreds of british civilians). He claims himself a proud fenian (the original brotherhood became the IRA) He posted a social media post of himself wearing our clubs shirt whilst quoting a convicted IRA terrorist. Purposely walked from the tunnel to the dug out during remembrance minutes silence v Boro. Why would he do that but to bring attention? Called a section of our support, uneducated caveman. The balaclava incident, while I'm sure he did it in jest he knew exactly what he was doing and that it would upset many British people. Am sure MON was delighted with that during a pandemic lockdown. I accept his background and the stance he takes with the poppy. Puzzling as to why he chose to play his trade in a nation he detests but that's his choice. He is marmite, anyone who wishes to fully support him that's fine but stop with the abuse "poppy police" "lack of intelligence etc" and accept people have issues with his stance and the above are reasons whether right or wrong that he brings abuse on himself. There are many Stoke supporters who will be thankful of the day he leaves our club. So you are saying he deserves to get abused which is what the article is about? Where has he said he detests England? Many of us fight against what we think are injustices but that doesn't mean we deserve abuse? I think he raises an interesting and valid question about what is deemed acceptable, in terms of abuse, or not? What about that brain dead idiot Gascoigne, I don’t see him getting abused from every Catholic out there for imitating playing the flute
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2021 20:30:19 GMT
In the heat of that game was sheer stupidity but you're absolutely correct but the kind of thing you expected from him, sadly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2021 20:35:38 GMT
Is this James' last season in a Stoke kit? I guess MON has bought Doughty to fill in at this position? Is James too expensive to be a bench player? No, he's too shit to be a bench player.
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Post by dastokie on Feb 12, 2021 20:58:24 GMT
It's not about his political views or beliefs. Its about what he does on the pitch and I can categorically say I'll never see another like him. The word unbelievable comes to mind, how he has shown a talent that I'll never forget.
Hell certainly never be mentioned In the same breath as Conroy,Robertson,Chamberlain,Hoekstra, Etherington, Pennant, Mathews,etc.
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 12, 2021 21:22:51 GMT
Is this James' last season in a Stoke kit? I guess MON has bought Doughty to fill in at this position? Is James too expensive to be a bench player? No, he's too shit to be a bench player. I'm not a big fan, but I actually think he has been very good when coming from ther subs' bench!
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Post by RAF on Feb 13, 2021 0:00:57 GMT
So you are saying he deserves to get abused which is what the article is about? Where has he said he detests England? Many of us fight against what we think are injustices but that doesn't mean we deserve abuse? I think he raises an interesting and valid question about what is deemed acceptable, in terms of abuse, or not? What about that brain dead idiot Gascoigne, I don’t see him getting abused from every Catholic out there for imitating playing the flute The IRA death threat was certainly taken as genuine. Also the fact it was 23 years ago when social media wasn't exactly prominent. I also don't see McClean getting abused from EVERY protestant either. Gazza was too thick to understand the connotations, McClean doesn't have that luxury. Or maybe he truly does? H
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Post by erogenous on Feb 13, 2021 0:37:56 GMT
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Feb 13, 2021 2:39:29 GMT
He is right, however most of the abuse he gets is from his own actions. Black players are abused for the colour of their skin, next week it could happen to any one of them, i'm not aware of other Irish Catholics getting abused, at least not in England. Declan Rice received a lot of racist abuse and death threats, McClean played a part in that. Have you been to any Stoke games,?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 14, 2021 21:11:30 GMT
Breaking news on SSN more threats against him on Social media “ don’t let me set your house on fire and burn everyone inside it” is what was sent
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Post by citynickscfc on Feb 14, 2021 21:24:55 GMT
Breaking news on SSN more threats against him on Social media “ don’t let me set your house on fire and burn everyone inside it” is what was sent Wow. The individuals responsible most certainly should be held accountable.
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 14, 2021 22:35:09 GMT
Breaking news on SSN more threats against him on Social media “ don’t let me set your house on fire and burn everyone inside it” is what was sent Wow. The individuals responsible most certainly should be held accountable. that is just horrific, when you read as a stand alone its bad, but in context of other posts it is even more chilling. these people have to be tracked down somehow.
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Post by Cns on Feb 14, 2021 23:51:37 GMT
The cunts quoting Bobby sands again
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